30-50 Feral Hogs Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, Redux said: Question, are the guys in the video athletes? Is the guy recording it an athlete? Are they currently playing? They served their consequence when they were still minors. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, 30-50 Feral Hogs said: They served their consequence when they were still minors. Boy, if only Mo had the common sense to send it back to her when he was 17 and 364 days old. 4 1 Quote Link to comment
30-50 Feral Hogs Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Redux said: Boy, if only Mo had the common sense to send it back to her when he was 17 and 364 days old. Common sense is definitely something he lacks 1 Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, 30-50 Feral Hogs said: It's not a false dichotomy. Either you think what he did was bad or you don't. There is nothing else there. The manner, degree, and timing of any consequences or not is a totally separate argument. Thankfully, the law isn't nearly as black and white in its thinking. It's why there are such things as trials, juries, and testimony. Hell, the law suggests that your bolded statement (my emphasis) is absurd. Otherwise, why would you have varying degrees/classes of felonies and misdemeanors. Or the distinction between felonies and misdemeanors in of itself? There's more than this case than what has been discussed and made public--otherwise, why is there an ongoing dialog between the judge, defense, and prosecution? If it were as simple and black and white as you suggest, it would have been resolved some time ago. And frankly, until Washington goes to trial and is found guilty, he's innocent--another fundamental tenant of our legal system. Let the kid play until his trial and outcome. 3 2 Quote Link to comment
30-50 Feral Hogs Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, VectorVictor said: Thankfully, the law isn't nearly as black and white in its thinking. It's why there are such things as trials, juries, and testimony. Hell, the law suggests that your bolded statement (my emphasis) is absurd. Otherwise, why would you have varying degrees/classes of felonies and misdemeanors. Or the distinction between felonies and misdemeanors in of itself? There's more than this case than what has been discussed and made public--otherwise, why is there an ongoing dialog between the judge, defense, and prosecution? If it were as simple and black and white as you suggest, it would have been resolved some time ago. And frankly, until Washington goes to trial and is found guilty, he's innocent--another fundamental tenant of our legal system. Let the kid play until his trial and outcome. So you base your personal opinion of how you feel about what someone did solely based on what the law decides? talk about absurd. Whatever the legal end result is of this issue doesn't erase what he did to the girl. That is the awful part. If he's found not guilty of child porn distribution based on technicalities or a plea or whatever doesn't take away the fact he sent that girl the video with intent to harm her. That act does not go away. 1 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, 30-50 Feral Hogs said: Common sense is definitely something he lacks We can't all be perfect, unfortunately some people are doomed to irrational fleeting stupidity. Thankfully there aren't worse people in the world. Quote Link to comment
CapoValley Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, VectorVictor said: And frankly, until Washington goes to trial and is found guilty, he's innocent--another fundamental tenant of our legal system. Let the kid play until his trial and outcome. And I think you’ve discovered the reason why his lawyers keep delaying hearings. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, 30-50 Feral Hogs said: So you base your personal opinion of how you feel about what someone did solely based on what the law decides? talk about absurd. Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 We have a game against Colorado this week, and ya'll are still arguing in this dumb thread? SMH. 4 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Saunders said: We have a game against Colorado this week, and ya'll are still arguing in this dumb thread? SMH. Hey, dumb things kids do when they are 18 and a football player matter and need to be talked into the ground! Quote Link to comment
30-50 Feral Hogs Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Redux said: Hey, dumb things kids do when they are 18 and a football player matter and need to be talked into the ground! This is a Maurice Washington thread. No need to talk about Cam Jurgens and his terrible snapping in here too. Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, 30-50 Feral Hogs said: So you base your personal opinion of how you feel about what someone did solely based on what the law decides? talk about absurd. Whatever the legal end result is of this issue doesn't erase what he did to the girl. That is the awful part. If he's found not guilty of child porn distribution based on technicalities or a plea or whatever doesn't take away the fact he sent that girl the video with intent to harm her. That act does not go away. What's absurd is that we here in the United States have a legal system that does the job of judging someone in a much more thorough and evidental manner than a message board poster, and yet the message board poster feels (by their absurd comments) that their opinion supersedes that of a judge presiding over this case. No one is saying what he Washington did was right. But thankfully the law, unlike yourself, isn't as black and white, and it will give Washington a chance to represent his side--something you fail to account for time and again in your critiques. And no, the law isn't the sole arbiter--we have judges that don't account for judicial precedent and updated societal norms, and society has to hold those rulings and judges in check whenever possible. But it does a lot more good than harm considering how easily you're willing to eschew one of the founding tenants of this (or any other civilized) country. --- Mods--a suggestion. Perhaps this topic would be better suited in the Politics tab. It's where we're headed with it, whether we like it or not. 3 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, 30-50 Feral Hogs said: This is a Maurice Washington thread. No need to talk about Cam Jurgens and his terrible snapping in here too. I think that actually deserves to be crapped on in every thread, might head over the th GTDT thread and complain about it there. Quote Link to comment
30-50 Feral Hogs Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, VectorVictor said: What's absurd is that we here in the United States have a legal system that does the job of judging someone in a much more thorough and evidental manner than a message board poster, and yet the message board poster feels (by their absurd comments) that their opinion supersedes that of a judge presiding over this case. No one is saying what he Washington did was right. But thankfully the law, unlike yourself, isn't as black and white, and it will give Washington a chance to represent his side--something you fail to account for time and again in your critiques. And no, the law isn't the sole arbiter--we have judges that don't account for judicial precedent and updated societal norms, and society has to hold those rulings and judges in check whenever possible. But it does a lot more good than harm considering how easily you're willing to eschew one of the founding tenants of this (or any other civilized) country. --- Mods--a suggestion. Perhaps this topic would be better suited in the Politics tab. It's where we're headed with it, whether we like it or not. I'm only talking about what he did. The undisputed act of him sending her the video with the intent to get back at her. I don't need a judges ruling on child porn, revenge porn or anything else to tell me that what he did was morally bad. Bad for a teenager, adult, anyone. Does that make sense? He made a crappy life choice and harmed another person with that choice. The legal side is a whole other discussion. Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, CapoValley said: And I think you’ve discovered the reason why his lawyers keep delaying hearings. And what wonderful inside information do you have to suggest this? The OWH, LJS, and Daily Nebraskan all didn't specify who requested the delay or why. Quote Link to comment
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