JJ Husker Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 On 7/7/2019 at 2:53 PM, Jeremy said: '83 Huskers, hands down. Incredible team, and it's too bad things ended the way they did. I agree, that was the best team to not win it all. I’m a little partial to the 82 & 83 teams because that is when I was a student at UNL. Another interesting poll might be to ask if people would’ve preferred kicking the extra point and actually winning it that way or if they’re content with losing it by going for the win. It was an extremely tough loss at the time but I’ve accepted it and am actually happy TO went for the win. I’m not sure how many would agree with me though. I think 82 is a solid #2 because of how we got screwed on the Penn State out of bounds call. We likely end up #1 without that one bad call. 93 is a close 3rd because it was only one made kick away. All 3 teams were incredible but that 82-83 scoring explosion with the triplets was really something. Things probably get more debatable after those 3. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2009 hands down. It's insane to think just how good that defense was and how bad the offense was at times. Games against Va Tech and Iowa State should have been wins. The title game.....the damn title game, the greatest performance by a nose tackle in the history of the game. Even with a SHRED more on offense that team goes 11-1, wins the title game and probably beats Alabama . 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Redux said: 2009 hands down. It's insane to think just how good that defense was and how bad the offense was at times. Games against Va Tech and Iowa State should have been wins. The title game.....the damn title game, the greatest performance by a nose tackle in the history of the game. Even with a SHRED more on offense that team goes 11-1, wins the title game and probably beats Alabama . You're thinking the only game we lose is to Texas Tech? That game was a real outlier for the defense. The offense didn't help them though. From the write up on Husker Max. Quote No. 15 Nebraska outgained a potent Texas Tech offense, but two long scoring drives and an 82-yard fumble return for a touchdown were enough to give the Red Raiders a 31-10 win. That, plus 12 penalties and an interception. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 They went up 14-0 with that return IIRC, the whole team was just out of their heads that day. 1 Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 On 7/7/2019 at 7:03 AM, MichiganDad3 said: I can't improve on this list. IMO, 1999 was the worst. That was a great team, and the MNC was fumbled away against Texas. The Huskers out gained Texas by 429-275, and a horrible pitch by Crouch cost us the winning TD (one of 3 lost). It would have been nice to get some revenge against the Seminoles. I also wonder what the effect would have been on Frankie. 1999= Great D but we fumbled going across the goal line. I think we beat FSU or VTech without issue if we had a chance to play them. We go on and beat (dominate) another well respected Tenn team in the bowl game. 82,83,93,99 are obvious. Of those teams I think 82 was the most well rounded team, 83 the most exciting to watch & 93 had the most heart. I'll throw out a dark horse. 1978 - We finally get the OU monkey off our back and then we in the emotional let down, get surprised by MO. If we had beaten Mo, OU wouldn't have gotten another crack at us in the Orange Bowl - which shouldn't have happened. We end up losing 2 games but we may have been playing for it all without that emotional let down against MO. That year Bama won the AP MNC and USC won the coach's MNC. So NU would have had a real shot at it. 3 Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 The 1983 team was probably better than three of our national championship teams, and would still be in the GOAT discussion for all of college football if not for a single play. 2 Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: The 1983 team was probably better than three of our national championship teams, and would still be in the GOAT discussion for all of college football if not for a single play. yes, they remind me of the GOAT in NCAA basketball that never won it - the Houston, five slamma jamma team, that lost in the last second upset to NC State in the championship game 1982 I believe. Great talent all the way around and great O. Our 83 team with that 82 D would have been unstoppable. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, TGHusker said: yes, they remind me of the GOAT in NCAA that never won it - the Houston, five slamma jamma team, that lost in the last second upset to NC State in the championship game 1982 I believe. Great talent all the way around and great O. Our 83 team with that 82 D would have been unstoppable. Yeah, even Osborne likes to give an edge to the 82 team, citing the D. But 83 was an offensive machine and the D wasn't far behind. It's just that when the offense averages 50 points a game, the second -- and third -- string D starts playing in the third quarter. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 And that 1999 team ended the season #2 after LEADING THE NCAA IN FUMBLES! I know you're not supposed to fumble, but you gotta be pretty good to hand the ball over that many times and still go 12 - 1. (And they avenged the one loss in dominant fashion) Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: Yeah, even Osborne likes to give an edge to the 82 team, citing the D. But 83 was an offensive machine and the D wasn't far behind. It's just that when the offense averages 50 points a game, the second -- and third -- string D starts playing in the third quarter. True - that probably tilts the D #s the wrong way. The 83 O would be a terrible thing to defense against even today.. Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: The 1983 team was probably better than three of our national championship teams, and would still be in the GOAT discussion for all of college football if not for a single play. I think I still would give 95 the edge as GOAT wt 83 next and 71 after that - I think those 3 teams in their respective 'era' could be argued as the greatest pushing 2001 Miami to # 4. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, TGHusker said: I think I still would give 95 the edge as GOAT wt 83 next and 71 after that - I think those 3 teams in their respective 'era' could be argued as the greatest pushing 2001 Miami to # 4. At the end of the season, those undefeated 1971 Huskers had beaten the #2, #3, and #4 ranked teams. Not sure anyone else ever did that. It will always be my favorite team because I was a kid and I got everyone's autograph at the Clock Tower Dairy Queen. You mention "era" and that comes into play, fairly or not. Such different size and speed of athlete, such simpler style of play. I don't think the first two NC teams could hang with '83 and the others. I'm willing to give '95 a solid edge -- that was the perfect storm of Nebraska football. 2 Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 15 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said: At the end of the season, those undefeated 1971 Huskers had beaten the #2, #3, and #4 ranked teams. Not sure anyone else ever did that. It will always be my favorite team because I was a kid and I got everyone's autograph at the Clock Tower Dairy Queen. You mention "era" and that comes into play, fairly or not. Such different size and speed of athlete, such simpler style of play. I don't think the first two NC teams could hang with '83 and the others. I'm willing to give '95 a solid edge -- that was the perfect storm of Nebraska football. Yes, the 71 Huskers have to standout as the most dominant of all teams prior to the 1980s. No one came within 24 pts of them except OU, at OU in the Game of the Century. They clobber #2 Bama in the Orange Bowl and had previously clobbered # 9 Colo earlier in the season and shut out a Iowa State team 37-0 that finished # 17 in the final poll. I think the only team comparable to them is the 95 team. Those 2 teams are in a category of their own. Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 One fact that really stands out in our discussion of the greatest team to never to have won the MNC - It is a fact that is so easily over looked because us older Husker fans are too familiar or too comfortable with our history. That fact is that Coach Tom was not only a great coach but an 'all time' great coach who will probably not get the credit that his history deserves. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if it weren't for the fact that Tom fielded teams so consistently good that we Husker fans and dare I say all of college football took it for granted. Without a doubt, I think Tom is deserving of 3 more national championships (82, 83, 93 - 82&93 literally stolen by the refs, and 83 by his courageous choice to go for 2). But we could reasonably say that the 78 team (see my previous post ) and the 96 team (hopes destroyed by flu on game day) could have/would have/ should have been been champs if one thing could have been changed. We also could mention the 81 team - a 2 loss Husker team had moved up to # 4 to play undefeated Clemson. # 2 and #3 had already loss. NU fought back in the 4th quarter to only lose by a TD to a highly regarding Clemson team. Again consistency. Tom never finished outside of the polls and has the most wins of any coach in his first 20 years. From this website: https://sites.google.com/site/nebraskafootballhistory/tom-osborne Quote Taking over from legendary NU coach Bob Devaney after he retired was a big task, but Tom Osborne managed to succeed with flying colors. He won 255 games in only 25 years, the fastest for any major college coach in history. He won or shared 13 conference, and 3 national championships. High Points Consistent, never won fewer than 9 games or lost more than 3, in 25 year career Ranked in final polls all 25 years, 21 of those in either the AP and/or Coaches top 10 Last 5 years - 60-3 with 3 National Championships 201 All Conference Players 55 All Americans 14 Major Award Winners 171 Players drafted into NFL 12 Conference Championships won/shared 3 National Championshihps 46 Academic All Americans 255-49-3 over 25 seasons Major college winning percentage 1973-1997 - Teams that were D1A at the end of the span, some did not play D1A all years, and the major college division did not split into D1A and D1AA until 1978. Source Stassen.com ________________________________________________________________ # Team Win-Pct W L T Games 1 Nebraska 0.83550 255 49 3 307 Team records (Current IA Teams) ranked by % vs opponents that were ranked in polls at game time, AP or Coaches. Years 1973-1997 Minimum 20 games vs teams ranked at game time. Source (for chart below) - .cfbtrivia.com Great site for information ______________________________________________ # Team Win-Pct W L T Games 1 Nebraska 0.64019 68 38 1 107 Team records (Current IA Teams) ranked by % vs opponents that were ranked in final polls, AP or Coaches. Years 1973 -1997 (minimum 20 games vs teams that finished ranked in final polls) Source (for chart below) .cfbtrivia.com Great site for information __________________________________________________ # Team Win Per. W L T Games 1 Nebraska 0.58081 57 41 1 99 Team records vs opponents that finished the season with winning records. 1973-1997. Ranked by winning %. (includes bowl games) Source - http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_menu.php _____________________________________________________ # Team Win. % W L T Games 1 Nebraska 0.70245 113 47 3 163 Team records (Current IA Teams) ranked by % vs opponents that were ranked in top 10 in final polls, AP or Coaches Polls. Years 1973-1997 (min. 10 games vs teams ranked in top 10 in final polls). Source (for chart below) - cfbtrivia.com Great site for information __________________________________________________________ # Team Win-Per W L T Games 1 Oklahoma 0.41667 22 31 1 54 2 Notre Dame 0.40769 26 38 1 65 3 Florida St. 0.38235 19 31 1 51 4 Alabama 0.37209 16 27 0 43 5 Nebraska 0.34615 18 34 0 52 Team records vs opponents that played in bowl games at end of year, also includes bowl games played by teams. 1973-1997, ranked by winning %. Note * below Source - http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_menu.php ____________________________________________________________ # Team Win. % W L T Games 1 Nebraska 0.66239 77 39 1 117 2 Penn State 0.78405 235 64 2 301 3 Michigan 0.77667 229 63 8 300 4 Alabama 0.75497 227 73 2 302 5 Ohio State 0.75415 223 70 8 301 6 Oklahoma 0.74232 214 72 7 293 7 Brigham Young 0.73237 227 82 3 312 8 Florida State 0.72297 212 80 4 296 9 Notre Dame 0.72203 211 80 4 295 10 Miami-Florida 0.70242 203 86 0 289 More: Tea 3 Quote Link to comment
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