suh_fan93 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 Glad to hear UT won't be nabbing Meyer. Quote Link to comment
jaws Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Meyer at Texas wouldn't have been good for OSU's Texas pipeline. I think Texas and Michigan are broken programs that will have a hard time getting the guy they want. I think their problems are much deeper than their head coach. Quote Link to comment
Crusader Husker Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Umm, you probably can add Nebraska to that list. I hope we have started to fix things and continue, but this is was/is a problem at Nebraska. Quote Link to comment
jaws Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 @Crusader Husker, I understand what you are saying but Michigan and Texas are in areas where they should be able to recruit a lot easier than Nebraska. Texas shouldn't be losing talent to teams like OSU. BTW, The broken quote feature on this site sucks. Quote Link to comment
Crusader Husker Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 @jaws Agree on the talent in Ohio. I am in Clevleand area. I am always amazed at how much talent there is just in Cuyahoga County. A couple of years ago there were over a 100 kids with D-1 offers in the NE Ohio area. Of course that counts Akron and Youngstown as well. Crazy. Quote Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 This year is a reminder of why I don't want to be in a conference for football. We won the big game and as a reward, well there's going to be another big game. Meanwhile our rival is still undefeated but we cannot have a decisive end of the year match because conference head offices said no. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Notre Dame Joe said: This year is a reminder of why I don't want to be in a conference for football. We won the big game and as a reward, well there's going to be another big game. Meanwhile our rival is still undefeated but we cannot have a decisive end of the year match because conference head offices said no. It's almost like Tom Osborne said this 25 years ago. But, yeah. The 2020 Notre Dame/Clemson game is going to be right up there with the 2011 LSU/Alabama game as being the most worthless game in history. You could make an argument that Alabama was better served to lose to LSU in 2011 because they had an easier path to the National Championship game. But the playoff was going to devalue the regular season. When was that going to happen again? Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Like someone pointed out, there is basically nothing for Ohio State to gain from playing A&M and everything to lose. As long as Ohio State wins out, they'll be ahead of A&M. Lose to aTm and they're out. Never going to happen. Quote Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Mavric said: It's almost like Tom Osborne said this 25 years ago. But, yeah. The 2020 Notre Dame/Clemson game is going to be right up there with the 2011 LSU/Alabama game as being the most worthless game in history. You could make an argument that Alabama was better served to lose to LSU in 2011 because they had an easier path to the National Championship game. But the playoff was going to devalue the regular season. When was that going to happen again? Well the winner of ATM-OSU would be 5th at worst in final CPF rankings. Basically the winner of that game is in playoff unless it was a sloppy game AND lightening strikes twice in the CCGs Teams never had a mulligan in their pocket before the playoff, now they do. But rematches are antithetical to college football even if they don't affect the title race. IIRC one year NU beat Oklahoma, and then the Orange Bowl chose them as your opponent, and everyone outside of Oklahoma was annoyed. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Notre Dame Joe said: Well the winner of ATM-OSU would be 5th at worst in final CPF rankings. Basically the winner of that game is in playoff unless it was a sloppy game AND lightening strikes twice in the CCGs Which is good for aTm because they are unlikely to pass tOSU without tOSU losing. But tOSU gains nothing from beating aTm. 1 hour ago, Notre Dame Joe said: Teams never had a mulligan in their pocket before the playoff, now they do. But rematches are antithetical to college football even if they don't affect the title race. IIRC one year NU beat Oklahoma, and then the Orange Bowl chose them as your opponent, and everyone outside of Oklahoma was annoyed. Yes, they did. I just pointed one out. Also, Oklahoma got a mulligan once upon a time. Quote Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 18 hours ago, Mavric said: Which is good for aTm because they are unlikely to pass tOSU without tOSU losing. But tOSU gains nothing from beating aTm. Yes, they did. I just pointed one out. Also, Oklahoma got a mulligan once upon a time. IIRC in 2011 Oklahoma State got hosed in favor of Bama. Bama needed that cOSU loss in 2011 (Iowa State?) and needed KSU and Oregon to choke in the home stretch in 2012. I don't know if you call that a Mulligan because there was little guarantee that the 1 loss team would eventually wind up at #2. But with a playoff it is very hard for a 1 loss Bama team to be 5th or worse, even in 2017 where they didn't really beat anybody. Also In the BCS era there was usually a 3rd place team that had a plausible claim to the national title even they weren't better than the SEC team. Often a TCU or Boise finished undefeated but ranked below a 1 loss P5 team. I think people get it backwards analyzing ND. If they presume our goal is to slip into the playoffs most often then we want to stay in the 1 loss club. They way to do that is to avoid conferences and their ccg rematches. Especially if they expanded the CFP to 8 (which many treat as preordained by the stars) then ND should make any competent team finish 11-1 and dare the committee to put a big tv draw at 9th. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Good timing here... 1 Quote Link to comment
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