***Official 2020 College Football Thread***

[suh_fan93]

Glad to hear UT won't be nabbing Meyer. 

 

 

[jaws]

Meyer at Texas wouldn't have been good for OSU's Texas pipeline.

 

I think Texas and Michigan are broken programs that will have a hard time getting the guy they want. I think their problems are much deeper than their head coach. 

[Crusader Husker]

Umm, you probably can add Nebraska to that list.  I hope we have started to fix things and continue, but this is was/is a problem at Nebraska.

[jaws]

@Crusader Husker, I understand what you are saying but Michigan and Texas are in areas where they should be able to recruit a lot easier than Nebraska. Texas shouldn't be losing talent to teams like OSU. 

 

BTW, The broken quote feature on this site sucks.

 

 

[Crusader Husker]

@jaws  Agree on the talent in Ohio.  I am in Clevleand area.  I am always amazed at how much talent there is just in Cuyahoga County.  A couple of years ago there were over a 100 kids with D-1 offers in the NE Ohio area.  Of course that counts Akron and Youngstown as well.  Crazy.

[suh_fan93]

 

[Mavric]

 

[Notre Dame Joe]

This year is a reminder of why I don't want to be in a conference for football.  We won the big game and as a reward, well there's going to be another big game.  Meanwhile our rival is still undefeated but we cannot have a decisive end of the year match because conference head offices said no. 

[Mavric]

1 hour ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

This year is a reminder of why I don't want to be in a conference for football.  We won the big game and as a reward, well there's going to be another big game.  Meanwhile our rival is still undefeated but we cannot have a decisive end of the year match because conference head offices said no. 

 

It's almost like Tom Osborne said this 25 years ago.

 

But, yeah.  The 2020 Notre Dame/Clemson game is going to be right up there with the 2011 LSU/Alabama game as being the most worthless game in history.  You could make an argument that Alabama was better served to lose to LSU in 2011 because they had an easier path to the National Championship game.  But the playoff was going to devalue the regular season.  When was that going to happen again?

[GSG]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mavric]

Like someone pointed out, there is basically nothing for Ohio State to gain from playing A&M and everything to lose.  As long as Ohio State wins out, they'll be ahead of A&M.  Lose to aTm and they're out.  

 

Never going to happen.

[Notre Dame Joe]

5 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

It's almost like Tom Osborne said this 25 years ago.

 

But, yeah.  The 2020 Notre Dame/Clemson game is going to be right up there with the 2011 LSU/Alabama game as being the most worthless game in history.  You could make an argument that Alabama was better served to lose to LSU in 2011 because they had an easier path to the National Championship game.  But the playoff was going to devalue the regular season.  When was that going to happen again?

 

Well the winner of ATM-OSU would be 5th at worst in final CPF rankings. Basically the winner of that game is in playoff unless it was a sloppy game AND lightening strikes twice in the CCGs 

 

Teams never had a mulligan in their pocket before the playoff, now they do.  But rematches are antithetical to college football even if they don't affect the title race.  IIRC one year NU beat Oklahoma, and then the Orange Bowl chose them as your opponent, and everyone outside of Oklahoma was annoyed. 

 

[Mavric]

1 hour ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

Well the winner of ATM-OSU would be 5th at worst in final CPF rankings. Basically the winner of that game is in playoff unless it was a sloppy game AND lightening strikes twice in the CCGs 

 

Which is good for aTm because they are unlikely to pass tOSU without tOSU losing.  But tOSU gains nothing from beating aTm.

 

1 hour ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

Teams never had a mulligan in their pocket before the playoff, now they do.  But rematches are antithetical to college football even if they don't affect the title race.  IIRC one year NU beat Oklahoma, and then the Orange Bowl chose them as your opponent, and everyone outside of Oklahoma was annoyed. 

 

Yes, they did.  I just pointed one out.  Also, Oklahoma got a mulligan once upon a time.

[Notre Dame Joe]

18 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

Which is good for aTm because they are unlikely to pass tOSU without tOSU losing.  But tOSU gains nothing from beating aTm.

 

 

Yes, they did.  I just pointed one out.  Also, Oklahoma got a mulligan once upon a time.

 

IIRC in 2011 Oklahoma State got hosed in favor of Bama.  Bama needed that cOSU loss in 2011 (Iowa State?)  and needed KSU and Oregon to choke in the home stretch in 2012.  I don't know if you call that a Mulligan because there was little guarantee that the 1 loss team would eventually wind up at #2.  But with a playoff it is very hard for a 1 loss Bama team to be 5th or worse, even in 2017 where they didn't really beat anybody. 

 

 

Also In the BCS era there was usually a 3rd place team that had a plausible claim to the national title even they weren't better than the SEC team. Often a TCU or Boise finished undefeated but ranked below a 1 loss P5 team. 

 

I think people get it backwards analyzing ND. If they presume our goal is to slip into the playoffs most often then we want to stay in the 1 loss club.  They way to do that is to avoid conferences and their ccg rematches.  Especially if they expanded the CFP to 8 (which many treat as preordained by the stars) then ND should make any competent team finish 11-1 and dare the committee to put a big tv draw at 9th.  

[Mavric]

Good timing here...