Archy1221 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, RedDenver said: Yes. And your continued defense of her in this thread kind of supports that. I will never figure out why you continue to make claims based on things that are not actually happening. As you clearly know, I haven’t defended her or her seat. As you clearly know, I am on record of voting her out. As you also clearly know, I’m on record of wanting to follow Precedent and normal process. Yet you make claims like this quite often. Wonder why that might be? 2 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 43 minutes ago, RedDenver said: This is so on brand for you and IMO is an accurate reflection of the future of the Republican Party. Ignore Jared and Ivanka if you want, but we can all see that it's just an act. How much were they paid by government treasury? 2 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 49 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: I will never figure out why you continue to make claims based on things that are not actually happening. As you clearly know, I haven’t defended her or her seat. As you clearly know, I am on record of voting her out. As you also clearly know, I’m on record of wanting to follow Precedent and normal process. Yet you make claims like this quite often. Wonder why that might be? But, you think she should stay on committees. That’s defending her. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Archy1221 said: You think I would lose my bet if I were able to make it? If the Dems hadn’t kicked her out of committees, yes you would lose. Now, it’s about 50/50. 50 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: How much were they paid by government treasury? LOL.....do you think that’s the only way they would have been paid? 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: But, you think she should stay on committees. That’s defending her. No, I said that the Republican Conference should decide that as opposed to the process that happened. That is two totally different things. I have stated that she should be off. I’m trying to defend process not outcome everyone knows this but tries to twist my words into something the aren’t. 18 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: But, you think she should stay on committees. That’s defending her. 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: No, I said that the Republican Conference should decide that as opposed to the process that happened. That is two totally different things. I have stated that she should be off. I’m trying to defend process not outcome everyone knows this but tries to twist my words into something the aren’t. When were they going to do that? You do know that most of them voted for her to stay on committees, right? So, with this statement, you are supporting her being on committees. They had every chance in the world to make it bipartisan. But, your party chose to support her. Support them and yours supporting her. Link to comment
RedDenver Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 20 hours ago, Archy1221 said: How much were they paid by government treasury? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nepotism nepotism : favoritism (as in appointment to a job) based on kinship Maybe you just don't know what nepotism actually means. If you follow the link, you'll learn that the word comes from the granting of favors not necessarily just money. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 48 minutes ago, RedDenver said: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nepotism nepotism : favoritism (as in appointment to a job) based on kinship Maybe you just don't know what nepotism actually means. If you follow the link, you'll learn that the word comes from the granting of favors not necessarily just money. And those favors were... 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: And those favors were... Trump appointed Jared and Ivanka to senior staff positions in his admin. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 24 minutes ago, RedDenver said: Trump appointed Jared and Ivanka to senior staff positions in his admin. And the favors were... 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Archy1221 said: And the favors were... Trump appointed Jared and Ivanka to senior staff positions in his admin. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, knapplc said: Trump appointed Jared and Ivanka to senior staff positions in his admin. Oh, ok. I didn’t see that until you posted it. Appointing them to unpaid work. Glad we survived. 1 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: Oh, ok. I didn’t see that until you posted it. Appointing them to unpaid work. Glad we survived. Again, it's not about what they were paid. Ivanka has overseen hundreds of millions of dollars in federal grants, represented the United States at the G20 summit, involved in shaping the 2017 tax cut that stands as her father’s main legislative achievement, and was involved at a high level in a search for a new World Bank president. Kushner has overseen the US-Mexico border wall, the Israeli-Palestinian talks, the opioid crisis, the nation’s medical stockpile, and the coronavirus crisis. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 45 minutes ago, RedDenver said: Again, it's not about what they were paid. Ivanka has overseen hundreds of millions of dollars in federal grants, represented the United States at the G20 summit, involved in shaping the 2017 tax cut that stands as her father’s main legislative achievement, and was involved at a high level in a search for a new World Bank president. Kushner has overseen the US-Mexico border wall, the Israeli-Palestinian talks, the opioid crisis, the nation’s medical stockpile, and the coronavirus crisis. What was their benefit? Who the F cares that someone did some government work for free and didn’t benefit financially. I mean, hell, we’re only three weeks into this Administration and the President’s son already signed a book deal, and the VP’s step daughter signed a modeling contract somehow. Kids are already cashing in. 2 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: What was their benefit? Who the F cares that someone did some government work for free and didn’t benefit financially. I mean, hell, we’re only three weeks into this Administration and the President’s son already signed a book deal, and the VP’s step daughter signed a modeling contract somehow. Kids are already cashing in. Again, you're either blinded by the need to support and protect your own team or you're deliberately avoiding looking at what Trump and co did since it was much the same as what you're outraged by about Biden and co. Ivanka's trademark deals with China is but one among many. But beyond that, as I've said repeatedly, nepotism is about granting favors like appointments, which Trump obviously did. No matter how much you want to change the definition or conversation to something else, that remains true. And Jared and Ivanka gain power, prestige, reputation even without being directly paid. 2 1 Link to comment
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