Danimal

I am shocked we had another disappointing season then closed left and right on prized recruits. No way did I see this being a top20 class. Fortunately I was dead wrong. Just imagine what this staff can do if we actually start winning.

We closed this class much better than I figured we would, not going to win them all, Wiscy is consistently one of the best-coached defenses in the country and their LB's seriously produce. Can't blame a kid for taking a sure thing.

Imagine being Oregon, you win your con with a top10 ranked defense and you lose a long-term db commit to freaking Arkie. That's a kick in the nads.

Ya, otherwise he was probably headed to Wyoming, Air Force, or whatever. Plus the offer was thrown-out there as a blue-shirt. It's not one of those cases where a kid commits and program then turns his offer into a blue-shirt one

Ruud is only in his second year of coaching, may well be he just needs more experience. DeWitt has been coaching a long time. With him I think we are stuck hoping he gets enough talent to make him look good.

Huge get, we really needed a big wr. If he lives up to the hype and Wandale actually gets to play duck-r we should see a major jump in wr production.

Found a pic from his playing days.

Folks were asking for this years ago. Now they kill off the character then give her a movie?

Dredging-up a random 2008 thread to start your trolling?

Absolutely incredible X's and O's guy, the best team in CFB was a TO-coached one. That said, it did take WAY too long to recognize that he needed top-notch athletes on both sides of the ball to beat the top teams. Switching to a 4-3 certainly helped but the big difference-maker was that his 90's teams just had more talent than his 70's and 80's.

I'd love to just assume it's the players but I IMO that's not the case. Don't think it's a coincidence that our poorest performing position is coached by a total newb and the guy who runs our underwhelming ST's. Neither would have their job at another P5 program, same goes for Chin for that matter but at least he has shown some improvement.

The O was certainly disappointing but to be fair we played against WAY more quality defenses than offenses. Against the four offenses we faced that were in the top50 we averaged over 40pts given-up.

Still annoyed about 1999 when he fumbled at the Texas 1yd-line. We win that game we play FSU for all the marbles, and I liked our chances.

Ya, when your team is losing reveling in schadenfreude is all you got. I especially enjoyed Texas having such a disappointing season.

This wasn't a Mike Riley type hire that showed Eichorst just didn't know what he was doing. Moos made what folks across the country considered to be a great hire, hopefully Frost ends-up meeting those expectations, but if he doesn't I think folks will be understanding towards Moos.

Yes, especially coming off two losing seasons we have to set the tone coming out of the gate. Will be surprised if it isn't a shootout.

Ya, and with all the qb's and O-line back we should be all the better at getting him the ball. I could understand trying his luck in the draft but transferring would be silly IMO.

That is the double-edged sword of Frost of being de facto offensive coordinator. Pretty damn hard to run the offense and be on top of all other aspects of the team as-well.

No, it wouldn't. Osborne is loyal to a fault. I would hardly count on Green and Moos showing the kind of blind faith you're talking about. If we have another disappointing season boosters will be pissed. Season ticket holders expected to pay a grand fee to keep their tickets only to watch a bad product will be pissed. Frost's seat will get hot and we should at least see substantial staffing upgrades, the kind he should've made when he took the job and that Florida had demanded.

When it comes to our defense I don't think you're recognizing just how many mediocre-to-bad offenses we played this year. We did improve but it was not a huge step forward. Plus we lose our best players. I will be shocked if we have the kind of defense you're forecasting. I do think the offense will be much better. Everyone is back plus Benhart should be ready ready to move Farniok inside to guard, I see our best O-line in a long time. Won't have to trot out a walk-on as our #2 rb. Hopefully AM has his head straight or Luke is starting. Hopefully this season was an anomaly and Frost gets back to being a top-notch playcaller. Unfortunately we'll be playing against even more quality defenses, don't see us consistently lighting-up the scoreboard, but can see us being consistently solid. Can't imagine ST's being any worse. Would like to see us make a nice analyst hire or two. Some fresh, knowledgeable eyes on what we're doing could help us get over the hump.

Ya, KSU is finding ways to win and we're still blaming Riley. I do buy that Frost inherited personnel and culture issues but come-on. Kleiman can win in year one in year one with what he had to work with and we can't do it in year 2?

If we're talking full-speed Taylor I would definitely go with him. He was deadly on the ground and that opened-up the passing game. He improved considerably when he got some outside qb coaching, think he would have been pretty credible passing with Verdu and Frost developing him.

Going by Iowa's averages in points scored and allowed we put-up enough points to win the game. That said the O could have been better. AM had some very costly errors, IMO Luke should have gotten in there more. Our love affair with an ineffective swing/screen passing game is maddening. The defense did manage to produce two turnovers and made some nice adjustments to play better in the second-half but let's be real, Iowa's O is just not very good and we got several lucky breaks. ST's are unacceptable.

I wouldn't be so sure. Extensions are a rather common practice used to create an aura of stability for recruits. I don't buy that it would save Frost, If we have another bad season I think he's either gone or has to make massive staffing changes like what we saw between the '02 and '03 seasons. Hopefully this staff develops, some issues get ironed-out, and we don't need to find-out.

Ya, this is a much better-coached conference than the AAC. Frost should have done as guys making similar jump normally do, cherry-pick your best staff then use your new cache/budget/connections to upgrade on the rest of the spots. Doesn't help that Frost just isn't coaching as-well. Playcalling has too-often been suspect this year, the announcers were actually making fun of it today, and he's definitely gone into "playing not to lose" mode at times.