Igetbored216 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I remember 2006 when we all thought Cosgrove was some kind of defensive mastermind. If by "defensive mastermind" you mean molding the D into slow players with bad technique, yeah, he is a defensive mastermind. Quote Link to comment
huskertim Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I remember 2006 when we all thought Cosgrove was some kind of defensive mastermind. We had a good defense in 2006. Definitely not 'defensive mastermind' good, but it was pretty solid. The last two games of the year we played championship caliber defense if you ask me. Absolutely not possible. Those would have been Frank's guys, and we all know Solich only recruited stiffs. Quote Link to comment
huskertim Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Pretty much sums it up eh?? I'm sure Bo and Carl are shooting holes through Watson offense and Vice Versa! If only you knew....I dont think Pelini even know the offense's playbook. Bo does seem to let Watson run his own show, but I'd have to say recruitng Green, implementing more spread option etc. (not the type of things Watts did at CU) seem to indicate Pellini's desires as carried out by Watson. Secondly, I've heard coach P say on the Bo Pelini show that they do break down film together and share ideas. Quote Link to comment
huskertim Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 P.S. it occurs to me, that a guy who has coached for the 49ers and the Packers, might have a passing familarity with the WCO. Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Pretty much sums it up eh?? I'm sure Bo and Carl are shooting holes through Watson offense and Vice Versa! If only you knew....I dont think Pelini even know the offense's playbook. Bo does seem to let Watson run his own show, but I'd have to say recruitng Green, implementing more spread option etc. (not the type of things Watts did at CU) seem to indicate Pellini's desires as carried out by Watson. Secondly, I've heard coach P say on the Bo Pelini show that they do break down film together and share ideas. Huskertim is right, HuskerBCS. Pelini is involved in the offense and Watson is involved in the defense, just not a whole lot. Pelini, unlike Callahan, has the entire team in perspective instead of just stockpiling talent on one side of the ball. Quote Link to comment
caveman99 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Pretty much sums it up eh?? I'm sure Bo and Carl are shooting holes through Watson offense and Vice Versa! If only you knew....I dont think Pelini even know the offense's playbook. Bo does seem to let Watson run his own show, but I'd have to say recruitng Green, implementing more spread option etc. (not the type of things Watts did at CU) seem to indicate Pellini's desires as carried out by Watson. Secondly, I've heard coach P say on the Bo Pelini show that they do break down film together and share ideas. Huskertim is right, HuskerBCS. Pelini is involved in the offense and Watson is involved in the defense, just not a whole lot. Pelini, unlike Callahan, has the entire team in perspective instead of just stockpiling talent on one side of the ball. A lot of the changes that they put into the O last year can be attributed to Pelini's desire to make the O more multiple. He said it when he took over, he wasn't going to dictate what overall scheme Wats would run but he did know what was hard to defend and wanted to add certain elements to the O gameplan. The Zone Read is NOT a WCO play that Wats would have put in otherwise. Quote Link to comment
HuskerBCS Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Pretty much sums it up eh?? I'm sure Bo and Carl are shooting holes through Watson offense and Vice Versa! If only you knew....I dont think Pelini even know the offense's playbook. Bo does seem to let Watson run his own show, but I'd have to say recruitng Green, implementing more spread option etc. (not the type of things Watts did at CU) seem to indicate Pellini's desires as carried out by Watson. Secondly, I've heard coach P say on the Bo Pelini show that they do break down film together and share ideas. Huskertim is right, HuskerBCS. Pelini is involved in the offense and Watson is involved in the defense, just not a whole lot. Pelini, unlike Callahan, has the entire team in perspective instead of just stockpiling talent on one side of the ball. A lot of the changes that they put into the O last year can be attributed to Pelini's desire to make the O more multiple. He said it when he took over, he wasn't going to dictate what overall scheme Wats would run but he did know what was hard to defend and wanted to add certain elements to the O gameplan. The Zone Read is NOT a WCO play that Wats would have put in otherwise. This all may be true and Im sure Pelini does have some input on the offense. I do know for a fact though that during practice Pelini is strictly with the defense the entire time, oversees special teams, and then o vs d stuff, while Watson is strictly with the offense the entire time. Also, if you watch during games, Pelini never interacts with offensive players/huddles during timeouts, etc. He is always standing on the other end of the sideline. Now, Im sure he is listening to what the offensive coaches are saying through the headset. Im just saying I dont think he has much of an impact on the offense other than telling Watson what type of offense he desires his football team to run. Quote Link to comment
macroboy Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Pretty much sums it up eh?? I'm sure Bo and Carl are shooting holes through Watson offense and Vice Versa! If only you knew....I dont think Pelini even know the offense's playbook. Bo does seem to let Watson run his own show, but I'd have to say recruitng Green, implementing more spread option etc. (not the type of things Watts did at CU) seem to indicate Pellini's desires as carried out by Watson. Secondly, I've heard coach P say on the Bo Pelini show that they do break down film together and share ideas. Huskertim is right, HuskerBCS. Pelini is involved in the offense and Watson is involved in the defense, just not a whole lot. Pelini, unlike Callahan, has the entire team in perspective instead of just stockpiling talent on one side of the ball. A lot of the changes that they put into the O last year can be attributed to Pelini's desire to make the O more multiple. He said it when he took over, he wasn't going to dictate what overall scheme Wats would run but he did know what was hard to defend and wanted to add certain elements to the O gameplan. The Zone Read is NOT a WCO play that Wats would have put in otherwise. We don't actually know that. Maybe he would've put them in but BC didn't want it that way. Using Wats time at CU only goes so far. Coaches are not oblivious to changes in O and D in the college game. I'm sure Wats has some ideas that were different from BC but it was BC's team. I bet Carl has some ideas that are different from Bo but....... Quote Link to comment
huskertim Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Surely you don't think TO was in Charlie Mcbride's headset on most defensive plays. Most coaches do concentrate on their area of expertise and let their assistants do their job, that's normal Quote Link to comment
Eric Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 :yawn: always bringing up old stuff. lets worry about the present and future Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Hard to talk about the present when it's April. But it is worth standing back and considering the possibility that the 2007 Cornhuskers fielded one of the weakest defenses in recent major college history, with a huge amount of the failure traceable to inept defensive schemes and a refusal to adjust. The level of meltdown was damn near baffling. You almost have to work at it to be that bad. So perhaps I'm not a fan of Cosgrove. But the entire team doing the deer in the headlights routine? That's on Callahan's shoulders. Quote Link to comment
Husker_x Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Every coaching staff is different. Different guys have different experience in different areas. Bo is a defensive mind. He's the head guy, but his specialty is defense. Watson is an offensive guy. But we knew from day one that Bo was going to bring changes to the entire team. The fact that Bo isn't drawing up offensive plays or overseeing the strategy on game day shouldn't bother anyone. Bo is a professional and so is Watson. They can be trusted to manage their assignments. Bo's job as a head coach is larger than knowing every play in the offenses playbook. As long as he and Watson have a good working relationship which allows them both to do their jobs better, the world is as it should be. Now if the situation is as the first poster described Callahan and Cosgrove's working relationship, it's a recipe for disaster. But judging by the results of last season (a top 20 offense and a defense that jumped over 50 spots from the previous year), nothing is wrong with how Pelini chooses to conduct his role in the offensive strategy. His leadership qualities alone positively affect both sides of the ball. Quote Link to comment
DJR313 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Callaclown, OMG I SO FUNNY!!!!11 Quote Link to comment
IBleedHuskerRed Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Callaclown, OMG I SO FUNNY!!!!11 lol wtf Quote Link to comment
teamster Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Probably overall, Coach Cal's classes run 40 to 50% of recruits that minimally contribute. In all fairness, isn't that about average for all schools? 04 recruiting class: http://www.huskerrecruiting.net/Verbals04.htm fun reading for class of o4: http://www.huskerrecruiting.net/recruitsumm04.htm more reading for 04: http://www.huskerrecruiting.net/2004recruit.htm everything you want to know about the 2005 class: http://www.huskerrecruiting.net/2005recruit.htm everything you want to know about the 2006 class: http://www.huskerrecruiting.net/2006recruit.htm for the 2007 class: http://www.huskerrecruiting.net/2007recruit.htm for this guy's entire site. It may not be complete but he did do a lot of work. http://www.huskerrecruiting.net/ Quote Link to comment
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