REDSTEEL Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Kurt Dukes was under the Solich era or was that not part of the program to? Quote Link to comment
mmmtodd Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I understand the player difficulties, I was more concerned about NCAA rules. If Cody went down last week, we would not of been forced to play T-Mart or Lee, and possibly hurt them more, at that point we could of subbed someone else, correct? Also at this point, it truly sounds like we have one QB able to play. We could be getting guys touches in that department to run a basic O if needed, simple passes, maybe slightly more complex runs... More curious than anything.... you can put the punter back there if you want. at any time. as far as the rules are concerned, the label "quarterback" falls to the player that takes the snap from center. Quote Link to comment
Hunter94 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 i havent heard much other than some very vague, unsubstantiated tricklings that his elbow is blown out again. so no, i know nothing. Thanks for the response. I heard a strong rumor from a friend I can usually trust, but you never know...I thought I'd ask you guys. Bo says Zac is fine and should be able to play Saturday. In Bo-Speak, that can mean anything from "Zac is actually fine" to "Zac died an hour ago." I wouldn't trust a thing Bo says when it comes to injuries. If you trust your source, I would believe what they're telling you. I also fully expect Cody Green to start against Kansas and play most, if not all, of the game. i would agree with everything you said.........good post. Quote Link to comment
bshirt Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I think if Tmart is even 90+% for the TAM we've "got" to play him for any hope of a win. Sure, a TAM loss doesn't effect us winning the North and playing in the ccg but for even the 1% chance of a NC game or a good BCS bowl well....it's Bo's call. Does anybody really know how bad his ankle is now? Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I think if Tmart is even 90+% for the TAM we've "got" to play him for any hope of a win. Sure, a TAM loss doesn't effect us winning the North and playing in the ccg but for even the 1% chance of a NC game or a good BCS bowl well....it's Bo's call. Does anybody really know how bad his ankle is now? To be honest with you, I don't think the injury is to his ankle. We'd need one of the program insiders to confirm that, though. Quote Link to comment
bshirt Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I think if Tmart is even 90+% for the TAM we've "got" to play him for any hope of a win. Sure, a TAM loss doesn't effect us winning the North and playing in the ccg but for even the 1% chance of a NC game or a good BCS bowl well....it's Bo's call. Does anybody really know how bad his ankle is now? To be honest with you, I don't think the injury is to his ankle. We'd need one of the program insiders to confirm that, though. wow...really? I wish I had any inside scoops. Is it his foot? Knee? Quote Link to comment
I am I Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 From the second he got hurt I was saying his knee looked like jelly, especially the way the guy hit the crown of his helmet right on his knee. Then he hobbled around and finished the half, kind of testing and shaking it around. An ankle injury u 'walk gingerly on' but can still run straight in most cases. A knee injury doesn't actually have the pain quotient, most times, but hinders overall ability to run in any direcction. Only the staff knows for sure, but I watched the replay of his injury hit about 9 times, his leg flopped around his knee a little bit. Seen this happen a ton. Everything feels right, just can't seem to motor 100%. Good news is, in what can seem just a few days, BAM, everything is back to normal. He's had essentially 2 weeks rest. KU we win without him, but can't have 3 weeks rust against TaM either. If he can play the very beginning or very end against KU, he really should. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Yep. Martinez' ankle didn't roll at all on that hit in the Missouri game. He got hit around the thigh, lower toward the knee, and the ankle didn't appear to be involved. Here's a Mitch Sherman article saying "if" too: High ankle sprain a lingering injuryLINCOLN — If, in fact, Nebraska quarterback Taylor Martinez is hampered by a high ankle sprain, the redshirt freshman may not return to full health until after the Huskers' bowl game. Martinez has participated in just one play in the past 1½ games because of an injury to his right ankle suffered late in the first half of Nebraska's Oct. 23 win over Missouri. He practiced Monday, though the severity of his injury remains unclear. Asked Monday if Martinez has a high ankle sprain, coach Bo Pelini sidestepped the question. “I don't know,” Pelini said. “He's doing just fine now. I don't care. There's not much going on right now with it. He's feeling a lot better.” High ankle sprains are more severe than traditional ankle sprains and require about twice the rehabilitation time, according to Dr. Michael Thompson, an orthopedic surgeon who specializes in foot and ankle injuries at Omaha's OrthoWest. Depending on the severity of the injury, an athlete often needs three to four months to recover completely from a high sprain, said Thompson, who has not examined Martinez and spoke generally about the condition. “A lot of athletes can be back to playing well before that but with soreness and achiness,” Thompson said. “Athletes who sustain a high ankle sprain in season, they're going to have symptoms all season. It's just a matter of how much pain they can deal with.” Martinez has accounted for 2,047 yards and 21 touchdowns, including 886 yards rushing. He was named Monday as the only freshman among 16 finalists for the Maxwell Award, presented to the nation's top player. A high ankle sprain is a tear of the ligament that connects the tibia and fibula — the two large leg bones below the knee. In traditional ankle sprains, the damage occurs lower, to the ligament that connects the ankle to the foot. In severe cases, Thompson said, athletes risk damage to the bones by playing on a high sprain. “You could stress that ankle and shift the bone slightly out of place,” he said. “But the vast majority of the high ankle sprains that we see are stable. “They do require a period of rest for the athlete's comfort level. It can be somewhat painful just to run on it.” Quote Link to comment
HuskerNMO Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 OK... I am stupid about this but can someone explain to me why you cannot just make Rex a QB for the game? If Green went down last week could you make a roster change and have Rex (or someone else) play QB... I'm assuming this is first grade stuff, but for the life of me I dont know... I'm not a coach so I don't know the entirety of the reasons, but from my perspective there are a few big ones. 1. Rex doesn't know the plays from the quarterback position. He knows his base package of wildcat plays, but since he is in fact a runningback, he's taught a runningback's role. He has no clue how the reads, progressions, audibles and etc. work from that position on the field. 2. It completely takes away our passing game, so teams can pin their ears back without having to worry about it. Rex was a quarterback in high school, sure, but it takes so much more than you think to be able to throw a decent ball in the college game. Look at Cody Green, he is a D1 caliber quarterback and still has a hard time completing passes that, to the fans, seem simple and easy. Imagine how much worse Rex would look throwing those balls. I understand the player difficulties, I was more concerned about NCAA rules. If Cody went down last week, we would not of been forced to play T-Mart or Lee, and possibly hurt them more, at that point we could of subbed someone else, correct? Also at this point, it truly sounds like we have one QB able to play. We could be getting guys touches in that department to run a basic O if needed, simple passes, maybe slightly more complex runs... More curious than anything.... There are no rules at QB in CFB to my knowledge like the pros. Quote Link to comment
HuskerNMO Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Cody came out today and said he didn't have a concussion I guess, simply amazes me based off the other things i've heard to the contrary that he would say that. Either people very close to him are full of crap, or he's covering for the staff. Quote Link to comment
NUpolo8 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 From the second he got hurt I was saying his knee looked like jelly, especially the way the guy hit the crown of his helmet right on his knee. Then he hobbled around and finished the half, kind of testing and shaking it around. An ankle injury u 'walk gingerly on' but can still run straight in most cases. A knee injury doesn't actually have the pain quotient, most times, but hinders overall ability to run in any direcction. Only the staff knows for sure, but I watched the replay of his injury hit about 9 times, his leg flopped around his knee a little bit. Seen this happen a ton. Everything feels right, just can't seem to motor 100%. Good news is, in what can seem just a few days, BAM, everything is back to normal. He's had essentially 2 weeks rest. KU we win without him, but can't have 3 weeks rust against TaM either. If he can play the very beginning or very end against KU, he really should. He didn't have a knee brace on at ISU. If this were true then we would have the most irresponsible training staff on record. Next. 1 Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 One of my mistresses works for the escort agency the Regents hire to keep the recruits happy, and Jasmine's understanding is that Martinez probably will start Saturday as Bo says, but Zac Lee really is out for the season, having popped a biceps tendon in a late night cow-tipping accident near Gretna. 1 Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I agree Knapplc. I don't expect to see TMart until aTm at the very earliest. I want to see Ron kellog isntead of cody green. You may think you do, but I promise you don't. Watched that kid at Westside, can't believe he will ever see game action. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 He didn't have a knee brace on at ISU. If this were true then we would have the most irresponsible training staff on record. Next. That, sir, is a good point. Quote Link to comment
Lonestar_Husker Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 He didn't have a knee brace on at ISU. If this were true then we would have the most irresponsible training staff on record. Next. That, sir, is a good point. Well, I seem to recall a situation last year with Zac Lee and the training staff that did not make them look good. Isn't that why he was in the "doghouse" to begin with? He had surgery that the staff did not think he needed? I wouldn't ask Big Willie about the training staffs competency. That is if you're looking for a positive review anyway. Quote Link to comment
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