nebraskaart Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I'm thinking Tommie would be the difference maker but our defense could really use a guy like Suh as well. This would be a tough decision. Sorry but I'm bored reading about Wisconsin and Martin Ez. 1 Quote Link to comment
Husker Richard Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Suh. Our offense is slightly better than our defense. So I give the nod to Suh. 1 Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 No doubt about it, Suh! Frazier as great as he was couldn't do much for this offense. We had the luxury of watching Tommie play behind an outstanding OL. He wouldn't have this. He was for the most part a terrible passing QB. If one remembers correctly, Tommie got pulled against Miami in the Orange Bowl because he threw a horrible INT on our side of the field. Tommie was tough, but he wasn't as fast as Martinez. Our D would look tremendously different if Suh were there to plug up the runs up the middle and put pressure on the QB. Quote Link to comment
wildman Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I voted Suh as our offense can actually move the ball and score. Now if it would of been a vote between Suh and Berringer then I'd think it would be a tougher decision. Since from what I remember Berringer wasn't that fast runner but was a decent passer. Quote Link to comment
Skers95711 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Have to go with Suh right now in our situation... if we could find some consistancy on defense I believe the offense would follow suit. Right now the front line isn't putting fear in anybody and with Suh that happens.. IMO Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 With David back there, few if any teams will have much success running to the outside. Where our D has been gashed in the running game has been right up the gut. Suh would stop a lot of this. Suh would be the best thing that could happen to our young DB's. I could be wrong, but I see Frazier stuggling on this offense. The only improvement in our offense from when Frazier played is the WR. Rex is great, but he's no Phillips. The OL is a signficant downgrade from those Frazier played with. The only QB of NU QB past that might have a chance is Crouch, but even he played behind a much better OL than we have today. Quote Link to comment
Hammerhead Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 With David back there, few if any teams will have much success running to the outside. Where our D has been gashed in the running game has been right up the gut. Suh would stop a lot of this. Suh would be the best thing that could happen to our young DB's. I could be wrong, but I see Frazier stuggling on this offense. The only improvement in our offense from when Frazier played is the WR. Rex is great, but he's no Phillips. The OL is a signficant downgrade from those Frazier played with. The only QB of NU QB past that might have a chance is Crouch, but even he played behind a much better OL than we have today. Totally agree. Frazier was a great option QB, but I just can't see him being as successful in the current system. Maybe he would, but comparing Frazier's impact on the offensive side of the ball to Suh's impact on the defensive side of the ball, Suh seems like the obvious choice. Quote Link to comment
The Duke Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I voted for Suh. As much as I love Tommie Frazier and everything he did for this program, I cannot pick against what I believe was the most dominant defensive player college football has seen in over 25 years. Just his presence alone on the defensive line would instantly improve our defense as a whole. 1 Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Hey, if we're going to fantasize, I'm bringing them both back. If you insist on only one it has to be Suh. I love Tommie but that is not the side of the ball with the biggest issues. In fact, considering we have Martinez, I would probably take virtually any of our past highly decorated O linemen back before TD Tommie. We get the good ole pipeline laying down pancakes and we would never have to pass if we didn't want to. Quote Link to comment
Cornicator Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I disagree about Tommie being successfull in this current system. I believe Tommie would be able to go through his progressions and find the open man on a regular basis. The Huskers have open receivers and running backs streaking down the field every time we try to throw the football. Quote Link to comment
Hammerhead Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I disagree about Tommie being successfull in this current system. I believe Tommie would be able to go through his progressions and find the open man on a regular basis. The Huskers have open receivers and running backs streaking down the field every time we try to throw the football. I will say that I thought Tommie was a better passer than Martinez is, but he was definitely never a pass-first QB. He probably would be better at finding open receivers than Martinez, though. That said, I'd still rather have Suh back. Quote Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 My vote is Joe Ganz. 1 Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Suh, because I whole-heartedly believe Nebraska can win with Martinez if we run the offense the right way. But with the way the defense is playing right now, we need someone in the trenches that can dominate, because none of our guys are right now. 1 Quote Link to comment
Paul in WI Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Frazier, because that guy was a leader that would have no problem grabbing the face mask of a teammate that wasn't pulling his weight and tell him about it. This team would hate his guts, but he'd get results. With the offensive personnel that we have right now (plus Frazier), Suh's bunch would never have to take the field. Frazier by a mile....maybe two. Quote Link to comment
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