Bo Should go.

[I am I]

Been a lurker long time, made an account, but don't post. This topic is making me:

 

This is absurd. No one would be the HC at Nebraska if we fire Bo. He can still do 10-3, or even 11-2 or 12-2! Calm down. Remember 5-7 twice within a 4 year period?

 

Any given saturday, any team can win, and it's the same in the SEC. You don't see call's for those HC's head when Ole Miss pulls out the fluke...

 

Calm down folks, it's our first year in a new conference playing new schemes week in and week out. Losing sucks, but we're not getting blown out by KU or Texas Tech.

 

You are high if you think that we will win out. 5-7 was because Frank left an very untalented team. That's why we had to hire a guy who didn't fit like BC in the first place. He was stupid to take the job with the expectations here and with what dumbass Peterson said at the press conference about not allowing the conference to just be OU and UT. That worked out well, didn't it SP. It was also why BC had to go to the juco ranks to get some talent on the team so we could try to be competitive.

 

When you change coaches it will obviously hurt recruiting, that was what was mainly behind 2007 and it's hurting Bo this year because this is the year this should be the 2007's SR year. But what was disappointing is that Bo didn't take recruiting seriously his first two years and then you throw that in with losing all of the 2007 kids, you get the product we have now.

 

IMO a new coach should get 6 years, but with Bo being such an a-hole, he has a shot leash and it may cause him to get fired sooner than that. If you hear about TO leaving in the next year or so, you know Bo is toast.

 

BS.

 

Clownahan took over a bowl winning 10 - 3 program and immediately ran it into the ground with losing seasons and record breaking losses. To lay that on Solich is simply stupid. If even 1% of that was true why did Clownahan have yet another monstrous losing season his "4th" year?

 

Bo has his downsides but losing seasons and monster blowout losses everywhere are not that. Yeah, even with today's horrible loss we're not anywhere close to 2007 bad.

 

 

true, all of this.

 

if we win our last 3 games we are 10-2...10 and 2.

 

granted we lost to an overacheiving NW team today and could be 11-2.

 

get a grip. we are better this yr than last yr.

[chamrocck]

We have a good coach , the players have to win it ..

 

Clock management and timeout usage were both abysmal today.

I was looking for who noticed this. I am not calling for Bo to go but did anyone notice in the second half when we were down and the clock kept running after multiple out of bounds plays? I was screaming at Bo to stop the clock! No one on our coaching said a peep? Then of course we are near the end of the game and guess what...no effing time left! And guess what...you let the clock run and then piss a timeout down your pants...terrible clock management. Then the icing...our onside kick is downright abysmal execution and we might as well have handed the ball over to NW.

 

So, no Bo should not go after one game...but he does a lot of chewing out and should not get away with crap like this.

[Hooked on Huskers]

Not Bo but Carl and Cotton. Carl will be fired? ......... very unlikely but if true, Mike Stoops is available.

[Blackshirt39]

You remember the last time we canned a coach for putting together solid seasons. Yeah, let's do that again. What are we, 7-2. Yes, he deserves to be fired.

 

 

 

Just wow.

 

The ends don't justify the means. I can honestly say I'm pretty disappointed in Bo. Hasn't lived up to his own words yet.

 

Please, by all means, go ahead and tell me what Bo "promised" when he came here to coach.

 

"We're about winning championships" I believe I've heard that line several times from him. You don't win championships by losing to Northwestern.

[robsker]

Zoogies:

 

It is clear that you think Bo is a good coach. Fair enough. But why?

 

Is he good at getting his team to play consistently focused football? Does he consistently field intense, play a million-miles-an-hour teams with heart and passion? Has the mechanics of the QB's, the receivers, etc. improved a great deal? Is he good at hiring assistant coaches? Is he good at roster management? Is he good as an ambassador of the program or with the media?

 

I guess I am asking what is it that he is good at? I know he does have some positive attributes --- very good defensive X's and O's... but beyond that, what makes you say he is good?

 

"Some" incredibly positive attributes, I'd say.

 

Some of the things you are pinning on him is ridiculous. His players will run through a wall for him, but every coach has problems motivating teams the right way for every single game. That's an unsolvable problem and it is not unusual to see this out of a team (just look at Wisconsin!) But, do we see a lot of million-mile-an-hour, intense units fielded by Bo in his time here? Absolutely. Bo turned this team around, put his fingerprint on it, and brought us back to respectability. It is no small feat, and with his inexperience as a HC, he's just scratched the surface of what he could accomplish.

 

Roster management? If you want to nitpick about depth chart and redshirts, you could criticize any coach in America. That does not mean they are good or bad at roster management; just an opinion based on very, very incomplete information. I will say that I agree with you if you mean he is too loyal to some of the upperclassmen fat that he could be cutting to open up scholarships.

 

QB mechanics? you must be kidding on this one. Taylor's issues are his own, have nothing to do with Bo or his QB coach for that matter. He is just very new to the position and a very raw QB.

 

I think he could be better as an ambassador to the media, and I think he has made an effort to that end. Yeah, there are things you might hear that make you think, "Geez. This guy is our coach?" But that kind of innuendo aside - something I absolutely think can be addressed and might possibly be overblown - Bo is a fine coach. His biggest problem is his blinding loyalty, IMO. Something he can learn from over time, nothing to can him over. Pick out any coach in America, any successful one, and they will have their share of personality quirks and detractors.

 

OK, maybe not all of them, but I don't want Turner Gill taking the reins

 

 

OK.

 

Did you incorporate in there what you thought Bo did well? Maybe you did when you said that Bo's players would run through walls for him. Fair enough. Then if so, would you not think that these same players would be fired up all game every game? They do not seem to be.

[It'sNotAFakeID]

I know some here think that the anti Bo thing is based upon one loss. But if you look at those who are posting that they are unimpressed with Bo's performance, you will see that they site trends that have been ongoing season after season. No, most here, as far as I can tell, who think Bo is not the guy do so based upon not so much wins and losses, but based upon poor ability to perform in many areas over time.

 

What I have not heard are those attributes that Bo possesses that incline some of you to think that he is doing a good job. What, precisely, is he doing well... so well as to compensate for that which he does poorly?

 

How about winning football games--and not sitting at home come December?

 

How many of you honestly HONESTLY think that just because BO PELINI is our head coach means we are going to win conference championships, and national championships nearly every damn year?

 

How many of you fail to realize how elusive conference championship games are? It takes a lot, A LOT to make those games. And just one setback can prevent that from happening. We've been in conference championship games in the last two years. We can still get to ours this year, in our first year in a BRAND NEW conference with BRAND NEW philosophies.

[AFhusker]

Been a lurker long time, made an account, but don't post. This topic is making me:

 

This is absurd. No one would be the HC at Nebraska if we fire Bo. He can still do 10-3, or even 11-2 or 12-2! Calm down. Remember 5-7 twice within a 4 year period?

 

Any given saturday, any team can win, and it's the same in the SEC. You don't see call's for those HC's head when Ole Miss pulls out the fluke...

 

Calm down folks, it's our first year in a new conference playing new schemes week in and week out. Losing sucks, but we're not getting blown out by KU or Texas Tech.

 

You are high if you think that we will win out. 5-7 was because Frank left an very untalented team. That's why we had to hire a guy who didn't fit like BC in the first place. He was stupid to take the job with the expectations here and with what dumbass Peterson said at the press conference about not allowing the conference to just be OU and UT. That worked out well, didn't it SP. It was also why BC had to go to the juco ranks to get some talent on the team so we could try to be competitive.

 

When you change coaches it will obviously hurt recruiting, that was what was mainly behind 2007 and it's hurting Bo this year because this is the year this should be the 2007's SR year. But what was disappointing is that Bo didn't take recruiting seriously his first two years and then you throw that in with losing all of the 2007 kids, you get the product we have now.

 

IMO a new coach should get 6 years, but with Bo being such an a-hole, he has a shot leash and it may cause him to get fired sooner than that. If you hear about TO leaving in the next year or so, you know Bo is toast.

 

BS.

 

Clownahan took over a bowl winning 10 - 3 program and immediately ran it into the ground with losing seasons and record breaking losses. To lay that on Solich is simply stupid. If even 1% of that was true why did Clownahan have yet another monstrous losing season his "4th" year?

 

Bo has his downsides but losing seasons and monster blowout losses everywhere are not that. Yeah, even with today's horrible loss we're not anywhere close to 2007 bad.

 

If I have to explain it to you then you are not smart enough to understand it. Just stay with the rest of the lemmings.

 

A Clownahan apologist calling me a lemming?

 

Lol!!

 

Yes any Frank "the tank" aploglist is a lemming. Go look at the 2004 roster and tell me anyone who could win with only three DL on the team and one QB. And that QB couldn't even start at UNC his senior year and had to become a possession WR. Yea, they were stacked...Lmao! Your total argument is "Frank good, BC bad" which couldn't be more ignorant.

 

Prove that he could do anyting other than win with TO's players? Frank is good for the MAC, but didn't take recruiting seriously enough and let the talent fall to a point to where he lost every streak excpet the bowl streak and KU. If he would have stayed one mroe year, he would have has those on his resume too.

[Blackshirt39]

Not Bo but Carl and Cotton. Carl will be fired? ......... very unlikely but if true, Mike Stoops is available.

 

NO. We have enough of his high school buddies on staff.

[AFhusker]

Been a lurker long time, made an account, but don't post. This topic is making me:

 

This is absurd. No one would be the HC at Nebraska if we fire Bo. He can still do 10-3, or even 11-2 or 12-2! Calm down. Remember 5-7 twice within a 4 year period?

 

Any given saturday, any team can win, and it's the same in the SEC. You don't see call's for those HC's head when Ole Miss pulls out the fluke...

 

Calm down folks, it's our first year in a new conference playing new schemes week in and week out. Losing sucks, but we're not getting blown out by KU or Texas Tech.

 

You are high if you think that we will win out. 5-7 was because Frank left an very untalented team. That's why we had to hire a guy who didn't fit like BC in the first place. He was stupid to take the job with the expectations here and with what dumbass Peterson said at the press conference about not allowing the conference to just be OU and UT. That worked out well, didn't it SP. It was also why BC had to go to the juco ranks to get some talent on the team so we could try to be competitive.

 

When you change coaches it will obviously hurt recruiting, that was what was mainly behind 2007 and it's hurting Bo this year because this is the year this should be the 2007's SR year. But what was disappointing is that Bo didn't take recruiting seriously his first two years and then you throw that in with losing all of the 2007 kids, you get the product we have now.

 

IMO a new coach should get 6 years, but with Bo being such an a-hole, he has a shot leash and it may cause him to get fired sooner than that. If you hear about TO leaving in the next year or so, you know Bo is toast.

 

BS.

 

Clownahan took over a bowl winning 10 - 3 program and immediately ran it into the ground with losing seasons and record breaking losses. To lay that on Solich is simply stupid. If even 1% of that was true why did Clownahan have yet another monstrous losing season his "4th" year?

 

Bo has his downsides but losing seasons and monster blowout losses everywhere are not that. Yeah, even with today's horrible loss we're not anywhere close to 2007 bad.

 

 

true, all of this.

 

if we win our last 3 games we are 10-2...10 and 2.

 

granted we lost to an overacheiving NW team today and could be 11-2.

 

get a grip. we are better this yr than last yr.

 

Are you crazy? No way in hell are we better than last year!! This NW team wouldn't have had 200 yards of total offense with last year's defense.

[JTrain]

It bugs me that all of this comes out after the loss. Bo hasn't changed. He was basically a B/B+ coach when he beat MSU 24-3 and he's a B/B+ after losing to Northwestern. He's not Callahan and he's not Osborne. Hopefully he is self-aware enough to realize some of his shortcoming and improve on them from week to week and from season to season. If he gets to an A- level we're going to be competing for championships.

 

There was a time when Les Miles was basically thought of as the worst coach in the history of sports by most LSU fans. Now he's got the #1 team in the country playing in the game of the season.

[It'sNotAFakeID]

We have a good coach , the players have to win it ..

 

Clock management and timeout usage were both abysmal today.

 

Yeah, but that doesn't change the reality that we have a damn good coach. The best coaches do completely stupid things. This will be something to learn from. Criticisms are completely fair, but Bo is a fantastic coach.

 

Just please don't overreact, everyone. That's the ugliest thing that can happen.

 

Zoogies:

 

It is clear that you think Bo is a good coach. Fair enough. But why?

 

Is he good at getting his team to play consistently focused football? Does he consistently field intense, play a million-miles-an-hour teams with heart and passion? Has the mechanics of the QB's, the receivers, etc. improved a great deal? Is he good at hiring assistant coaches? Is he good at roster management? Is he good as an ambassador of the program or with the media?

 

I guess I am asking what is it that he is good at? I know he does have some positive attributes --- very good defensive X's and O's... but beyond that, what makes you say he is good?

 

The receiving corps has been much better this year even with the youth. They helped us fight back today. Just look at Kenny Bell. And Taylor has been playing miles ahead of where he was last year. He truly is evolving into the kind of QB we need right before our eyes. Dr. Beck is the one deciding that we're somehow good at the option when we're not. It should simply be scrapped.

 

Bo has no excuses. I'm not a big fan if firing up the fire mobile at the first sign of trouble, but this pattern is becoming tiresome. In year four we have less defensive talent than year one. Our line is laughable. The offense seems to be trending in the right direction, but how or why the defense has gotten to this point under him is baffling. The way things are going we'll be looking at another tumultuous offseason.

 

Please tell me you haven't forgot that football is a cyclical process. In year one, we had Dennard was our 2nd CB. In year one, we had a guy by the name of Ndamukong Suh. In year four, Ciante Evans/Andrew Green [a sophomore and freshman] is our 2nd CB. Stafford is in his first year of play. We don't get to keep talented players we once had. Sometimes players are just flat out better. I fully expect Ciante and Green to be coached up over their next couple of years and they will be a force to be reckoned with come a couple of years.

 

And I could count on one hand the amount of times holding has been called against opposing teams. And I guarantee you it is less than 5 at that.

 

It doesn't have to be cyclical if the coaches take it serious enough. In which they didn't thier fist two years here.

 

It is always, ALWAYS cyclical. No matter what. It's a rule that will never be broken. Players have 4, often times 5 years to play and after that they are gone. Players have different skill sets and it takes time to learn what needs to happen on defense. A lot of players are in their first full year of playing a big time position. Those are the players being picked on [as they should be] and will learn the system with experience. But by all means, blame the coaches for the intrinsic skills of a player's and their ability to learn the defensive system. Yes, it is their fault.

[AFhusker]

Bo stays. However, we need to start reviewing some of our defensive coaches. Especially this Corey Raymond guy.

 

Carl is the first one that needs to go. He's a distraction with his personal life that needs to take it elsewhere.

[epocSoN]

Welp, this board went full retard...

 

See you next week huskerboard.

[It'sNotAFakeID]

Been a lurker long time, made an account, but don't post. This topic is making me:

 

This is absurd. No one would be the HC at Nebraska if we fire Bo. He can still do 10-3, or even 11-2 or 12-2! Calm down. Remember 5-7 twice within a 4 year period?

 

Any given saturday, any team can win, and it's the same in the SEC. You don't see call's for those HC's head when Ole Miss pulls out the fluke...

 

Calm down folks, it's our first year in a new conference playing new schemes week in and week out. Losing sucks, but we're not getting blown out by KU or Texas Tech.

 

You are high if you think that we will win out. 5-7 was because Frank left an very untalented team. That's why we had to hire a guy who didn't fit like BC in the first place. He was stupid to take the job with the expectations here and with what dumbass Peterson said at the press conference about not allowing the conference to just be OU and UT. That worked out well, didn't it SP. It was also why BC had to go to the juco ranks to get some talent on the team so we could try to be competitive.

 

When you change coaches it will obviously hurt recruiting, that was what was mainly behind 2007 and it's hurting Bo this year because this is the year this should be the 2007's SR year. But what was disappointing is that Bo didn't take recruiting seriously his first two years and then you throw that in with losing all of the 2007 kids, you get the product we have now.

 

IMO a new coach should get 6 years, but with Bo being such an a-hole, he has a shot leash and it may cause him to get fired sooner than that. If you hear about TO leaving in the next year or so, you know Bo is toast.

 

BS.

 

Clownahan took over a bowl winning 10 - 3 program and immediately ran it into the ground with losing seasons and record breaking losses. To lay that on Solich is simply stupid. If even 1% of that was true why did Clownahan have yet another monstrous losing season his "4th" year?

 

Bo has his downsides but losing seasons and monster blowout losses everywhere are not that. Yeah, even with today's horrible loss we're not anywhere close to 2007 bad.

 

 

true, all of this.

 

if we win our last 3 games we are 10-2...10 and 2.

 

granted we lost to an overacheiving NW team today and could be 11-2.

 

get a grip. we are better this yr than last yr.

 

Are you crazy? No way in hell are we better than last year!! This NW team wouldn't have had 200 yards of total offense with last year's defense.

 

BUT THIS ISN'T LAST YEARS DEFENSE. THIS ISN'T LAST YEARS CONFERENCE.

[AFhusker]

We have a good coach , the players have to win it ..

 

Clock management and timeout usage were both abysmal today.

 

Yeah, but that doesn't change the reality that we have a damn good coach. The best coaches do completely stupid things. This will be something to learn from. Criticisms are completely fair, but Bo is a fantastic coach.

 

Just please don't overreact, everyone. That's the ugliest thing that can happen.

 

Zoogies:

 

It is clear that you think Bo is a good coach. Fair enough. But why?

 

Is he good at getting his team to play consistently focused football? Does he consistently field intense, play a million-miles-an-hour teams with heart and passion? Has the mechanics of the QB's, the receivers, etc. improved a great deal? Is he good at hiring assistant coaches? Is he good at roster management? Is he good as an ambassador of the program or with the media?

 

I guess I am asking what is it that he is good at? I know he does have some positive attributes --- very good defensive X's and O's... but beyond that, what makes you say he is good?

 

The receiving corps has been much better this year even with the youth. They helped us fight back today. Just look at Kenny Bell. And Taylor has been playing miles ahead of where he was last year. He truly is evolving into the kind of QB we need right before our eyes. Dr. Beck is the one deciding that we're somehow good at the option when we're not. It should simply be scrapped.

 

Bo has no excuses. I'm not a big fan if firing up the fire mobile at the first sign of trouble, but this pattern is becoming tiresome. In year four we have less defensive talent than year one. Our line is laughable. The offense seems to be trending in the right direction, but how or why the defense has gotten to this point under him is baffling. The way things are going we'll be looking at another tumultuous offseason.

 

Please tell me you haven't forgot that football is a cyclical process. In year one, we had Dennard was our 2nd CB. In year one, we had a guy by the name of Ndamukong Suh. In year four, Ciante Evans/Andrew Green [a sophomore and freshman] is our 2nd CB. Stafford is in his first year of play. We don't get to keep talented players we once had. Sometimes players are just flat out better. I fully expect Ciante and Green to be coached up over their next couple of years and they will be a force to be reckoned with come a couple of years.

 

And I could count on one hand the amount of times holding has been called against opposing teams. And I guarantee you it is less than 5 at that.

 

It doesn't have to be cyclical if the coaches take it serious enough. In which they didn't thier fist two years here.

 

It is always, ALWAYS cyclical. No matter what. It's a rule that will never be broken. Players have 4, often times 5 years to play and after that they are gone. Players have different skill sets and it takes time to learn what needs to happen on defense. A lot of players are in their first full year of playing a big time position. Those are the players being picked on [as they should be] and will learn the system with experience. But by all means, blame the coaches for the intrinsic skills of a player's and their ability to learn the defensive system. Yes, it is their fault.

 

You totally missed the point. If they would have recruited better when they first got here, then they wouldn't be in this postion to start freshmen.