Penn State Scandal Thread

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Ben Jones ‏@Ben_Jones88

 

 

Banner plane: "Take down the statue or we will" just flew over State College. Unreal.

[The Dude]

Obviously, there's no good reason to have a statue of a chimo supporter on your campus.

[Nexus]

NCAA President Mark Emmert said in an interview with PBS’s Tavis Smiley that he will not rule out the death penalty for Penn State’s football program in the wake of the Freeh Report’s findings that members of the administration and athletic department, including legendary coach Joe Paterno, “failed to protect against a child sexual predator harming children for over a decade.” Long-time defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky was convicted on 45 counts in connection to sexual abuse that sometimes took place within the Penn State locker room and showers.

 

The death penalty, which bans a school from competing in a sport for at least one season, has only been implemented on one major college football program, SMU in 1987 and 1988.

 

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[Moiraine]

And why not the women's basketball team?

I guess the math dept should be shut down because the President was involved.

 

I don't know exactly how I feel about all of this, but these are both bad points, imo. The crimes weren't covered up to protect the women's basketball team or the math department. They were done for the reputation of Penn State football so they could keep being a squeaky clean and powerful program. Football is the money-maker, not the other minuscule departments and teams. It also didn't involve any of the basketball coaches or math professors.

[DelK]

In for a dime, in for a dollar. It's pretty hard to punish only the football program and not the others because, dollars to doughnuts, that's the cash cow that supports all the rest. Joe was all-powerful because he ran the cash cow. If there was ever a lack of institutional control, this has to be it. He was the institution it would seem

[4skers89]

NCAA President Mark Emmert said in an interview with PBS’s Tavis Smiley that he will not rule out the death penalty for Penn State’s football program in the wake of the Freeh Report’s findings that members of the administration and athletic department, including legendary coach Joe Paterno, “failed to protect against a child sexual predator harming children for over a decade.” Long-time defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky was convicted on 45 counts in connection to sexual abuse that sometimes took place within the Penn State locker room and showers.

 

The death penalty, which bans a school from competing in a sport for at least one season, has only been implemented on one major college football program, SMU in 1987 and 1988.

 

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Sounds like they are getting serious about confronting this. I liked that he acknowledged that it is a football issue and a culture change was needed. Maybe they'll get creative and impose a loss of 10 scholarships for 14 years. One scholarship for each victim abused while they were covering up. The culture will naturally change with a losing program.

[DelK]

My guess is that the culture of the office-holders is changing as we speak (write) with the departure of the triumvirate or troika led by Joe. Very interesting problems they face. Kinda wonder what donations being up says about their culture?

[Blackshirts007]

I have come to a conclusion, penn state should demolish their entire university

[Notre Dame Joe]

In for a dime, in for a dollar. It's pretty hard to punish only the football program and not the others because, dollars to doughnuts, that's the cash cow that supports all the rest. Joe was all-powerful because he ran the cash cow. If there was ever a lack of institutional control, this has to be it. He was the institution it would seem

 

The football team is marketing department of big universities. They would essentially be telling a business that they can still make products but not run ads with they're competitors.

 

btw: what would happen to their partners if they couldn't maintain the cash flow they contracted for? Say said business was one of the biggest producers in an association with 11 others?

[HeyBurke]

I don't think Penn State should remove Joe Paterno's statue. They should just move it so that it's looking the other way.

[huKSer]

In for a dime, in for a dollar. It's pretty hard to punish only the football program and not the others because, dollars to doughnuts, that's the cash cow that supports all the rest. Joe was all-powerful because he ran the cash cow. If there was ever a lack of institutional control, this has to be it. He was the institution it would seem

 

The football team is marketing department of big universities. They would essentially be telling a business that they can still make products but not run ads with they're competitors.

 

btw: what would happen to their partners if they couldn't maintain the cash flow they contracted for? Say said business was one of the biggest producers in an association with 11 others?

The group is more important than the one. No one "business" is more important than the entire corporation. Divest of a liability and seek a replacement. One could look north and south, east and west, around every bend of the river. There can be no trend to ignore, no river that can't be damed and tamed.

[Excel]

I hate this story but all the talk has got me thinking. If you don't get the "death penalty" for this what do you get it for? This is a real crossroads for the NCAA. Ban them from football and they'll come off as stern and maybe a bit harsh but they'll be feared and have more power in regulating athletics and all that goes along with it. Do nothing and you will forever be seen as weak.

[DelK]

I don't think Penn State should remove Joe Paterno's statue. They should just move it so that it's looking the other way.

 

Priceless!!!!!

[Nexus]

A student-athlete advocacy group has asked the NCAA to lift all transfer restrictions for Penn State football players, allowing them to switch schools without penalty. The request comes in the wake of the school-funded Freeh Commission concluding that administrators and coaches helped conceal the Jerry Sandusky sexual molestation scandal.

 

The request would allow any Penn State player to become immediately eligible to play at any other program and still receive a full scholarship. It would also allow other schools to communicate with players about potential transfers. NCAA rules stipulate a player on scholarship who transfers must sit out one year before becoming eligible.

 

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The Freeh report investigating Penn State’s actions of the Sandusky allegations is over 260 pages long. However, it only briefly explains (pages 97-102) the university board of trustees’ failure ‘to exercise its oversight and reasonable inquiry responsibilities” in 1998 and 2001.

 

That’s understandable to an extent; the board sponsored the Freeh investigation.

 

However, according to ESPN’s Outside the Lines, there was another failure by the board in 2004, one that wasn’t mentioned in the Freeh report.

 

In November, 2004 — the same year former coach Joe Paterno was asked to retire — “seven members of Penn State’s board of trustees proposed sweeping reforms that would strengthen the board’s oversight power of Spanier and other campus leaders, including Paterno” according to documents obtained by OTL.

 

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