DC Candidates?

[kchusker_chris]

completely hijacked this thread...can we agree we want a good recruiter in the DC candidate and move on?

[Blackshirt96]

Less then 20 = lower ranking also correct???

no, when you're less than 20 you definately get penalyzed. You want to be close to 20, without using lowly ranked players to get there (obviously)

Then how can you compare Bo's classes which have had to be smaller to Callahan's classes which were always over 20. It is apples to oranges.

[kchusker_chris]

Less then 20 = lower ranking also correct???

no, when you're less than 20 you definately get penalyzed. You want to be close to 20, without using lowly ranked players to get there (obviously)

Then how can you compare Bo's classes which have had to be smaller to Callahan's classes which were always over 20. It is apples to oranges.

because Bo's haven't been under 20. 28, 20, 22, 20. and mainly I was just referencing the quality of that 2005 class. A lot of people dog on it (or say it was only highly ranked because of the count)...but that class had a bunch of highly talented players. not all were used correctly (chris brooks, lucky)...but they still had very successful careers. If pelini can get a class that has 8-9 players like lucky, bowman, suh, brooks, dillard, glenn, octavient (he was in the 05' class), potter, slauson,z. taylor,b. turner... - I won't be worried.

[MLB 51]

It has been said that the Iowa coach to Nebraska is a done deal. Anyone else here this?

[bshirt]

Wait, now the NFL wanting to hire you is the benchmark of success?

 

 

The NFL Vikings tried to take COZ from us.

[GMoose]

Iowa released a statement that Kaczenski is officially leaving. Ferentz released a statement that he is leaving for "another coaching oppurtunity."

 

Via Sean Callahan's twitter

[bshirt]

There's just a level of negativity that I can't stomach. The constant bitching about Pelini, how he's not good enough, not as good as the next guy, blah blah blah. It gets tiresome. People talk about benchmarks which are often arbitrary and based on chance as much as anything.

 

It sure as hell does.

 

The bitching, whining, sobbing & crying here overflows the Missouri river. Bo s*cks, Tmart s*cks, Barney s*cks, TO s*cks, etc, etc. Every single day.

 

If we were in the Clownahan era it would makes sense. But the same genius crowd that cheered on firing Frank/Bo for "only" winning ten games in 2003 is fully primed for another blood bath. If they're successful again, be prepared for another dark era. Quite possibly a far longer dark era.

[papersun87]

Iowa released a statement that Kaczenski is officially leaving. Ferentz released a statement that he is leaving for "another coaching oppurtunity."

 

Via Sean Callahan's twitter

And there was much rejoicing throughout the land.

[Landomatic]

Wait, now the NFL wanting to hire you is the benchmark of success?

 

 

The NFL Vikings tried to take COZ from us.

 

The Vikings didn't try to take him as a head coach. Nice try though.

[BIGREDIOWAN]

Can we stay on topic? The threads about defensive coordinator candidates. Thanks........

[Blackshirt96]

Less then 20 = lower ranking also correct???

no, when you're less than 20 you definately get penalyzed. You want to be close to 20, without using lowly ranked players to get there (obviously)

Then how can you compare Bo's classes which have had to be smaller to Callahan's classes which were always over 20. It is apples to oranges.

because Bo's haven't been under 20. 28, 20, 22, 20. and mainly I was just referencing the quality of that 2005 class. A lot of people dog on it (or say it was only highly ranked because of the count)...but that class had a bunch of highly talented players. not all were used correctly (chris brooks, lucky)...but they still had very successful careers. If pelini can get a class that has 8-9 players like lucky, bowman, suh, brooks, dillard, glenn, octavient (he was in the 05' class), potter, slauson,z. taylor,b. turner... - I won't be worried.

Top guy. He signed in '04.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=8&toinid=665&yr=2004

 

I understand that Pelini has been over 20, but in the formula you take the top 20. So if I sign 30 players & you take the top 20, chances are there will be a higher average then if I only sign 20 & have to use the whole class.

 

I agree that Callahan brought in some great talent, but was not good at developing it. His biggest problem was his loyalty to his friends. If he would have fired Cosgrove & brought in someone who could have returned the Blackshirts to a respectable form. He may still be coaching here.

 

Anyways in better news Mohammed Seisay is N

[knapplc]

It's not the stars behind the names. We spent thirty years under Osborne and Solich learning that. People who get all concerned about our stars and recruiting class rank are just looking for entertainment. You can have a lot of fun keeping track of this or that player, who signs where, all that stuff. Good harmless fun (for 99.9% of those who follow recruiting). Me, I don't care what number of stars a guy has from some recruiting service. It's all arbitrary, and has nothing to do with how they'll perform in college. We've all seen hundreds of examples of five stars that fizzled or two stars that became all-conference. It's about coaching and the kid's own will to work and grow.

[Blackshirt96]

It's not the stars behind the names. We spent thirty years under Osborne and Solich learning that. People who get all concerned about our stars and recruiting class rank are just looking for entertainment. You can have a lot of fun keeping track of this or that player, who signs where, all that stuff. Good harmless fun (for 99.9% of those who follow recruiting). Me, I don't care what number of stars a guy has from some recruiting service. It's all arbitrary, and has nothing to do with how they'll perform in college. We've all seen hundreds of examples of five stars that fizzled or two stars that became all-conference. It's about coaching and the kid's own will to work and grow.

I couldn't agree more.

[B.B. Hemingway]

It's not the stars behind the names. We spent thirty years under Osborne and Solich learning that. People who get all concerned about our stars and recruiting class rank are just looking for entertainment. You can have a lot of fun keeping track of this or that player, who signs where, all that stuff. Good harmless fun (for 99.9% of those who follow recruiting). Me, I don't care what number of stars a guy has from some recruiting service. It's all arbitrary, and has nothing to do with how they'll perform in college. We've all seen hundreds of examples of five stars that fizzled or two stars that became all-conference. It's about coaching and the kid's own will to work and grow.

 

I would agree with you to an extent, but there is a reason Bama, LSU, and Oregon are where they are.... They get the top kids.... They dont all pan out, but the more 5 star, and 4 star guys you get, the better you'll be....

[Blackshirt96]

Guess this answers the question. Looks like John Papuchis will be the DC with Rick Kaczenski taking over on the line. At least that is my take from this.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/iowa-defensive-line-coach-rick-kaczenski-leaves-program/2011/12/20/gIQAtPws7O_story.html