Jesus and abortion

[Ratt Mhule]

"Yea, let it be OK to rape young men and let us protect pedophiles and make it easier for them to commit their crimes"

 

"Yea, let us hate on females and infringe upon their rights while we turn a blind eye to unwanted starving and abused children all around us"

 

"Yea, let it be OK to go forth and torture and murder those who do not believe as we do, even as we practice a religion that preaches peace among men."

 

[/Catholic Church]

 

All of this has happened. But let's not paint every Catholic with the same brush. They are not all guilty because some are guilty, any more than every Husker fan is "bad" because of Lawrence Phillips.

 

Disagree. I think anyone who practices Catholicism and probably Christianity in general and donate money to their causes is an accessory to all of these crimes and many, many more

 

Im speechless. Unbelievable...

[JJ Husker]

2ndNine- you're more like 4thNLong now. It's time to punt and fire your coach.

[It'sNotAFakeID]

Extremes--giving a person as much ground as they want to which they can fight their way back.

 

2nd & 9, by reading your posts your claiming this guilt by association so let me give an examples.

 

 

Nebraska went 9-4 last season. By your logic, the fault falls on all the players and the coaches. And if it were to stop there, I don't think anyone would have a problem with that line of reasoning. But the guilt by association logic doesn't stop there. Because we as fans are associated with the team, we're just as guilty. Nebraska is part of the NCAA, so by association, the NCAA is at fault for Nebraska's season. Even more so, because the NCAA consists of 118 other teams, those 118 teams are just as guilty too. Because the players and coaches of those 118 are associated with the 118 teams, they are equally guilty as our coaches and players. Our recruits are associated with our program now, so it's their fault we went 9-4. Even more, the recruits of the 118 teams because they are associated with our program are also equally to blame.

 

So due to guilt by association, our 9-4 season is the fault of the recruits of the other 118 schools? It sure is a nice way to not take responsibilities for your own actions.

[Enhance]

"Yea, let it be OK to rape young men and let us protect pedophiles and make it easier for them to commit their crimes"

 

"Yea, let us hate on females and infringe upon their rights while we turn a blind eye to unwanted starving and abused children all around us"

 

"Yea, let it be OK to go forth and torture and murder those who do not believe as we do, even as we practice a religion that preaches peace among men."

 

[/Catholic Church]

 

All of this has happened. But let's not paint every Catholic with the same brush. They are not all guilty because some are guilty, any more than every Husker fan is "bad" because of Lawrence Phillips.

 

Disagree. I think anyone who practices Catholicism and probably Christianity in general and donate money to their causes is an accessory to all of these crimes and many, many more

Do you really believe that? And, if so, how do you justify this?

 

You're human, so by the same token, can I blame you for everything bad humanity has done? Can I attribute everything good they have done to you?

 

You're a Husker fan, so were you an accessory to Suh's car accident?

 

Whether you follow a religion, or are atheist, is it fair for me to attribute anything bad somebody from your respective belief system does?

 

All Muslims are not terrorists, anymore than all Catholics are pedophiles. If you truly believe what you just said, I think you have a very skewed and disappointing perspective on life.

[The Dude]

"Yea, let it be OK to rape young men and let us protect pedophiles and make it easier for them to commit their crimes"

 

"Yea, let us hate on females and infringe upon their rights while we turn a blind eye to unwanted starving and abused children all around us"

 

"Yea, let it be OK to go forth and torture and murder those who do not believe as we do, even as we practice a religion that preaches peace among men."

 

[/Catholic Church]

 

All of this has happened. But let's not paint every Catholic with the same brush. They are not all guilty because some are guilty, any more than every Husker fan is "bad" because of Lawrence Phillips.

 

Disagree. I think anyone who practices Catholicism and probably Christianity in general and donate money to their causes is an accessory to all of these crimes and many, many more

 

Im speechless. Unbelievable...

Pretty much.

[carlfense]

Muslims yes, iraqis, no. they were almost all saudi. No one is saying there aren't muslim extremists and terrorism in the world. My point is that there is far more christian extremism and terrorism than there will ever be of all other religions combined.

What? Can you support the bold? I doubt it.

[Sub-Husker]

Muslims yes, iraqis, no. they were almost all saudi. No one is saying there aren't muslim extremists and terrorism in the world. My point is that there is far more christian extremism and terrorism than there will ever be of all other religions combined.

 

What? Can you support the bold? I doubt it.

 

I guess it depends how you define terrorism.

 

Which act of state terrorism killed the most people in a civilian airliner?

[carlfense]

Muslims yes, iraqis, no. they were almost all saudi. No one is saying there aren't muslim extremists and terrorism in the world. My point is that there is far more christian extremism and terrorism than there will ever be of all other religions combined.

 

What? Can you support the bold? I doubt it.

 

I guess it depends how you define terrorism.

 

Which act of state terrorism killed the most people in a civilian airliner?

I'll wait for him to support his assertions. I guess you could do that for him if you agree with his argument.

 

I don't think your question is particularly relevant. He said "more . . . than there will ever be of all other religions combined." No matter how horrific, any single bad act will be statistically inconsequential.

[Sub-Husker]

OK, but different people define terrorism differently.

 

I really don't want to see a 200 post war with people arguing over differing definitions.

 

I'd rather see some commonality of definition, followed by a decent descussion.

 

Me... the idealist liberal... trying to fix the world... one internet thread at a time...

[carlfense]

I guess I'll go with Webster:

 

the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

[Sub-Husker]

I guess I'll go with Webster:

 

the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

 

That is good, but one persons terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.

 

There are probably some nuts that agree with this terrorist...

 

http://rt.com/news/breivik-demands-medal-massacre-651/

[redblooded]

Did anyone here claim that the Bible was written or dictated by Jesus? Your non-point doesn't explain dick. If wire coathangers hadn't advanced to plastic, maybe your mother would've done us all a big favor.

....as a mod, I'm going to have to warn you against personal attacks against other people. that being said, there are both pro-abortion and anti-abortion stories/rules in the Bible. It's a huge book of contradictions. When it comes to passing laws in our country, I ask everyone to look at the reasons for their point of view. If they're religious based...if you have to say "god tells us (fill in the blank)"... I think you have no right to push those views into laws. Whether it be abortion, same-sex marriage, etc.

Fine. Are you going to also warn redblooded for advocating for the abortion of Jesus and basically waging a personal attack on all Christians? What's good for the goose...... And BTW, that wasn't a personal attack. I am the one against abortion in this discussion and he is the one apparently for it. How dare I suggest he being willing to suffer the consequences of what he proposes. I have dealt with this issue in the context it was presented. I can't help it if people jump to conclusions and make assumptions about what laws others may or may not push. And, as far as I know, I have all the same rights you or anyone else does and I can be for or against any law I see fit, for any reason I see fit. If it happens to be a religion based belief, I guess other people simply have to deal with that. I've never understood the position that simply because a person does not have a religion to base a belief on, why that makes their position somehow more valid. I think you have no right to say others have no right.

LOLx2, Once because I said Jesus neither wrote nor dictated the bible and that basically nullified the original post's bait and second for taking mine. Yeah Aborting Jesus would have only saved everyone that died in the Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Salem witch trials, the Jews in WW2 and countless other people in catholic and protestant wars alike their lives. But yes, please warn me on a message board for making a joke about aborting the cause of it all. (I'd die a thousand times over, now not just in the womb, to not have that suffering plague the world) That's Jesus y'all lets celebrate him in some man made institution that wants our money every sunday so we can pretend he takes a bow for us being good as long as we continue carrying on that hatred of all other religions that aren't "right." Then with our taxes we can fund the largest military in the world to blow them up to expedite our expelling them from "heaven". Marry is the greatest trap artist in the history of the world... not only did she get some moron to marry her before she gave birth to her "Immaculate conception" but she got him to be okay with it and convinced millions upon millions of morons thousands of years later to not only go along with it but that he was the son of (and) god himself. If that broad tried to get away with that now she'd be on Springer and/or Maury, and rightfully so, yet those are the 2000 year old people you're worshiping. Good luck with that. (ps thanks for learning how to press the "quote" button. That only took what, three months?).

 

The Christians killed the jews in WW2? I think you got a hold of the wrong history book.

 

Really? who exactly do you think conquered those northern barbarian hordes in Germania back in the day? It wasn't Muslims out there conquring them and sending missionary's to teach them "gods" word while hijacking their pagan festivals, or all around Nebraska we'd be speaking arabic. Hitler was a "skeptical catholic" technically according to the web. As a baptised catholic and christian church raised kid that sounds pretty christian to me (I won't even bother naming my ancestry, if you know nebraska past the 1850s you know that already), and while Jew hatred might not be en-vogue now with us guilty conscience'd gentiles it was pretty okay back in the day until then. Hell have you people never had a racist older relative?

 

Religion is a device to subjugate the masses. Nothing more. Don't get me wrong, the teachings of the bible are good overall if not taken too literally... I mean we shouldn't be stoning people to death like it's John Cleese night outside of Memorial stadium during the fall if they blaspheme as someone fumbles. After all the bible is just a collection of stories that date back WAY beyond the supposed years of Christ which were retold generation after generation to get people to not kill or steal from eachother. Somewhere someone figured out they could make money off of that from kings that wanted people to behave as their subjects in the name of the lord. then it turned into the sleaziest business in the world. At least prostitues can shower and control themselves around children.

 

However, It's the whole interpreted will of a supposed 'diety' so a bunch of people can try to impose their will on others in the name of 'god' (who doesn't exist) I have the biggest problem with.

 

also,

 

P.S. thanks for the amusing reading. P.P.S. Marry, Mary, Maury. Two are fictional and all three would've been on talk shows taking lie detectors and paternity tests in the 20th century.

[redblooded]

That's just a crazy analysis. Any time you use the word Nazi people think of evil in such a grand scale. When did you see such carnage based on Christ. I know you guys just love the Crusades, get over that, that was in the middle ages. People and faith ahv echanged ove rthe years.

Your argument is "who cares it happened a long time ago?" Do you think that faith has changed for the better over the years? As in . . . the further we get from the time of Christ walking the earth the better Christians have behaved? Weak.

 

I am saying you guys harp back to the same old line when you can't think of anyhting else to say. I will say that this site only reinforces my faith in what the bible says. In the end days very few will be believers and they will be mocked and ridiculed. As was stated earlier less and less people in the world are believers which follows the bibles story line, you are just helping out in your own little way Carlfense, thanks!

 

Seriously I imagine you hit your head on the door before you open it to leave your own bedroom every morning. Confirm or Deny? Also ponder this quote, from a not as well known greek figure as Plato, So-crates

, and Aristotle. 300 years before god was even born.

 

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus

 

(helping or hurting your faith?, is there a deadline like jan2013 when the rapture doesn't come or is it open ended? should we have been stocking up on nike cross trainers and investing in cyanide laced kool-aid?)

 

 

 

Enjoy your rightiousness hanging out with the self fulfilling prophecy by church sponsored psychics of the "very few believers." They could have had a good career setting odds in vegas.

[redblooded]

Muslims yes, iraqis, no. they were almost all saudi. No one is saying there aren't muslim extremists and terrorism in the world. My point is that there is far more christian extremism and terrorism than there will ever be of all other religions combined.

 

 

How many Christian terrorsits do you believe are in the world?

 

Seriously didn't we just go through the white supremesist fundamentalist "militia" scare with the unibomber and Timothy McVeigh in the 90s?

 

The game in this country for the last 70 years has been to simply to point blame at anyone to justify more defense spending, since defense was the "republican" strong point.

[johnnyrodgers20]

Muslims yes, iraqis, no. they were almost all saudi. No one is saying there aren't muslim extremists and terrorism in the world. My point is that there is far more christian extremism and terrorism than there will ever be of all other religions combined.

 

 

How many Christian terrorsits do you believe are in the world?

 

Seriously didn't we just go through the white supremesist fundamentalist "militia" scare with the unibomber and Timothy McVeigh in the 90s?

 

The game in this country for the last 70 years has been to simply to point blame at anyone to justify more defense spending, since defense was the "republican" strong point.

 

I am sure I heard your story on real men of genius commercials!! You found one Christian terrorist, give this man a cookie. I am sure the door has hit a few times from your drivel on your posts!!