The Dude Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Between 22 and 27 defensive players on the New Orleans Saints, as well as defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, maintained a "bounty" program funded primarily by players in violation of NFL rules during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons, the NFL announced Friday. The investigation by the league's security department determined that an improper "pay for performance" program included "bounty" payments to players for inflicting injuries on opposing players that would result in them being removed from a game. http://espn.go.com/n...rogram-nfl-says Quote Link to comment
Comish Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Be interesting to get Shanle's take on this...... Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 Be interesting to get Shanle's take on this...... If upwards of 27 defensive players were in on this, I'd say there's about a 99% chance he was one of them. He being a starter and all. Quote Link to comment
LouisianaHuskerFan Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I'm sure that most teams in the NFL have some sort of 'bounty program'. Quote Link to comment
Lyons in the Sea of Red. Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Yeah, I understand why the NFL is making a big deal, but I would say most of the people making the judgements were probably engaged in some sort of activity when they were playing. You dont see a whole of players making a big deal about this, including QBs and such, because they know that it goes on. Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Yeah, I understand why the NFL is making a big deal, but I would say most of the people making the judgements were probably engaged in some sort of activity when they were playing. You dont see a whole of players making a big deal about this, including QBs and such, because they know that it goes on. Kind of reminds me of the Sandusky situation. You had a bunch of people jumping up on their soap boxes claiming moral superiority. But, if a guy like JoePa can make such a huge mistake, anybody can. Similarly, you have a lot of people pointing and shaking their fingers, but I get the impression players know this stuff happens and coaches either provoke it or just don't care. Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 I'm sure that most teams in the NFL have some sort of 'bounty program'. You're probably right. But I'm sure most of those are side bets between players on who will get the first sack of the game, ect. Not to try and injure guys and hurt their careers. That's garbage, and there's no place for it. I can't believe so many people are giving Williams and the Saints a pass on this. Especially after how much Suh was vilified for kicking at a guy out of frustration. Quote Link to comment
hskrpwr13 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I'm sure that most teams in the NFL have some sort of 'bounty program'. You're probably right. But I'm sure most of those are side bets between players on who will get the first sack of the game, ect. Not to try and injure guys and hurt their careers. That's garbage, and there's no place for it. I can't believe so many people are giving Williams and the Saints a pass on this. Especially after how much Suh was vilified for kicking at a guy out of frustration. I'm wondering if thats where there is a disconnect. How are these players applying/defining "bounty"? If its about just a big hit (regardless of whether they just gave up a 20 yard completion or not), and nothing to do with intent to injure, then I can understand where one might find it acceptable (tax/salary cap implications aside). However, if thats the case, they need to choose a different word for it besides "bounty". Just call it the "big hit side bet" or something, and they can't single out certain players to hit. Quote Link to comment
husker_99 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I'm sure that most teams in the NFL have some sort of 'bounty program'. You're probably right. But I'm sure most of those are side bets between players on who will get the first sack of the game, ect. Not to try and injure guys and hurt their careers. That's garbage, and there's no place for it. I can't believe so many people are giving Williams and the Saints a pass on this. Especially after how much Suh was vilified for kicking at a guy out of frustration. I'm wondering if thats where there is a disconnect. How are these players applying/defining "bounty"? If its about just a big hit (regardless of whether they just gave up a 20 yard completion or not), and nothing to do with intent to injure, then I can understand where one might find it acceptable (tax/salary cap implications aside). However, if thats the case, they need to choose a different word for it besides "bounty". Just call it the "big hit side bet" or something, and they can't single out certain players to hit. There is no disconnect. New Orleans Saints players and at least one assistant coach maintained a bounty pool of up to $50,000 the last three seasons to reward game-ending injuries inflicted on opposing players, including Brett Favre and Kurt Warner, the NFL said Friday. "Knockouts" were worth $1,500 and "cart-offs" $1,000, with payments doubled or tripled for the playoffs. Gambling is illegal. Plus paying players outside their contracts. Quote Link to comment
T_O_Bull Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 And now the Saints Tag Brees with the Franchise . Do you have a feeling that this team is crumbling? T_O_B G>B>R Quote Link to comment
husker_99 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 And now the Saints Tag Brees with the Franchise . Do you have a feeling that this team is crumbling? T_O_B G>B>R it will after their coach gets barred for a year and they lose draft picks. Roger Goddell is gonna make an example of this team so other teams think twice about "ignoring" problems. Quote Link to comment
Hingle McCringleberry Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I have a feeling very little will come of this, people will walk arond for a few days acting mad, but in the end very little will happen... Also this is a good read http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203370604577265522200050922.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton has been suspended for one year and the team will lose its second round pick in 2012 and '13 and pay $500,000 as a result of the NFL's bounty investigation, the league announced Wednesday. http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/03/sean-peyton-suspended-saints-fined-for-bounty-program/1#.T2oLm3lKN1E Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton has been suspended for one year and the team will lose its second round pick in 2012 and '13 and pay $500,000 as a result of the NFL's bounty investigation, the league announced Wednesday. http://content.usato.../1#.T2oLm3lKN1E So, in other words, the Saints will slowly, but surely return to being the 'Aint's'? Quote Link to comment
Hingle McCringleberry Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I have a feeling very little will come of this, people will walk arond for a few days acting mad, but in the end very little will happen... Also this is a good read http://online.wsj.co...Opinion_LEADTop Wow... I was way off... Statement retracted... Quote Link to comment
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