tschu Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 so every single phenotype that doesn't exhibit the absolute best and most prominent traits beneficial for evolutionary fitness is somehow deemed "unnatural" now? (especially in modern human society, where talking about classic evolutionary traits is an unimaginably hilariously misguided line of thinking) 1 Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 so every single phenotype that doesn't exhibit the absolute best and most prominent traits beneficial for evolutionary fitness is somehow deemed "unnatural" now? (especially in modern human society, where talking about classic evolutionary traits is an unimaginably hilariously misguided line of thinking) I would not consider the behavior of homosexuality to be a phenotype that is derived genotypically. Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 wat? Well phenotypes are physical expressions... Hair color, body patterns, ect... of which are derived from genes during development. Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 wat? Well phenotypes are physical expressions... Hair color, body patterns, ect... of which are derived from genes during development. My point being I don't believe there is a gene that makes anyone gay. Link to comment
tschu Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 phenotype is what is expressed phenotype is the result of the additive effect of genetics, environment, GxE interaction I assume that you're talking about the condition of homosexuality, which has been overwhelmingly been shown to not have much of a genetic cause; it is minimally heritable and something like 90% environmental edit: your second post is correct. second edit: wow, a big typo that made my post super-confusing! fixed. Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 phenotype is what is expressed phenotype is the result of the additive effect of genetics, environment, GxE interaction I assume that you're talking about the condition of homosexuality, which has been overwhelmingly been shown to not have much of a genetic cause; it is minimally heritable and something like 90% environmental My apology. edit: your second post is correct. second edit: wow, a big typo that made my post super-confusing! fixed. Link to comment
MLB 51 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjvZ2r4gzxs&feature=player_detailpage Live with it!!!! Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Though I do find it confusing how homosexuality can be considered a phenotypic expression if it is not genetically based what so ever. Link to comment
MLB 51 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I can't believe this thread is still going. Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjvZ2r4gzxs&feature=player_detailpage Live with it!!!! That is terrible music. Link to comment
tschu Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Though I do find it confusing how homosexuality can be considered a phenotypic expression if it is not genetically based what so ever. It is a phenotype. Phenotype = the traits that are exhibited by an individual. It is not necessarily genetically based at all. Link to comment
MLB 51 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjvZ2r4gzxs&feature=player_detailpage Live with it!!!! That is terrible music. Oh come on Harry. Just give it try. Link to comment
husker_99 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Your post is lacking. No one said that you can't have sex other than procreate but sex's primary function is to procreate. Also humans get together for a mate for a variety of reasons just not finding the hottest girl to bang. There is a reason why most people have labeled girls they would bang but never form a relationship with and vice versa. Animals don't have the though capabilities of humans. How do you know that believing in God isn't natural? You said yourself you can't be sure God doesn't exist. Marriage primary function is survival. Gay marriage doesn't survive. Given the fact that gays are in the minority it alone isn't natural to humans to be gay. Sex's primary function for human beings, though, is not for procreation. It is for pleasure. That's just a fact. The rest of your post is drivel that nobody should read, let alone respond to. What the FACT that your wrong? Your post is nothing but drivel. If sex primary was pleasure then we would naturally be able to have more control of ejaculation. The fact that we have to learn how to control it means pleasure isn't the primary function. Link to comment
husker_99 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 It might be the most obvious functional reason, but humans have sex for a variety of reasons, the least percentage of which is to procreate Nothing about modern human life is "natural." If we can't have sex for any reason other than to procreate, then I guess I better just dump the gf. Matter of fact, we should rid society of all things not deemed "natural." Bye, modern houses. Bye, electricity. Bye, automobiles and rockets and the Galaxy Nexus S3. sh#t, believing in a God isn't natural at all! Do you know of any animal species that let their thoughts and decisions be decided by a religious belief?? I think I just created a paradox! Point is, there's probably no god, people can do whatever they want with their personal lives, and in general it's none of our business. Sure that sort of thing is offensively disgusting to a lot of us, but whatever. You just keep those thoughts of disgust to yourself and act like a decent human being towards other people. Your post is lacking. No one said that you can't have sex other than procreate but sex's primary function is to procreate. Also humans get together for a mate for a variety of reasons just not finding the hottest girl to bang. There is a reason why most people have labeled girls they would bang but never form a relationship with and vice versa. Animals don't have the though capabilities of humans. How do you know that believing in God isn't natural? You said yourself you can't be sure God doesn't exist. Marriage primary function is survival. Gay marriage doesn't survive. Given the fact that gays are in the minority it alone isn't natural to humans to be gay. mmmmm I disagree. So you are telling me there are more gays than straight? Noooo, I'm saying I disagree with your notion that because gays are in the minority that being gay is not natural. I don't find that a valid argument on the definition of natural. If two gay men have sex will they produce a baby? Then it's not natural to humans. Link to comment
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