QMany Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I know we have a fumbling problem. I know it needs to be addressed before we can be a great team. I refuse to read any more of Dirk's articles. 1 Quote Link to comment
jmfb Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Another thing I noticed to during a rewatch, the first INT against Michigan State, Taylor was hit in the arm (also the head in the same way that got a penalty later in the game) that altered the pass making it look like he threw it straight to the MSU defender. Freak turnovers are going to happen that aren't necessarily the fault of the player, especially when it comes to interceptions and fumbles while passing. If a QB gets blind-sided because his left tackle got beat, that's not really on the quarterback. I would say those probably only account for a couple of overall turnovers though. Even if you take em away, we still have problems. EVERYONE has freak turnovers ALMOST everyone has o-line misques This has been a consistent problem for the last 5 years and an awful problem for the last 3 This isnt coinicidence, bad breaks or rotten luck I would argue weve been AWFULLY lucky getting a bunch of those fumbles back- fumbles that could have easily cost us games We arent a triple option team (even Osbornes teams had MUCH better TO ratios) we shouldnt have anything like the numbers we have This isnt something minor A completely DIFFERENT approach/accountablility/focus has to be implemented Small tweaks wont solve the problem- this is a Macro/Team Defining problem and #1 reason why our teams are irrelevant nationally Im a 40 year season ticket holder AND fan, supporter This article was fairly written- pretty much just the facts Very good research IMO Quote Link to comment
whateveritis1224 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Another thing I noticed to during a rewatch, the first INT against Michigan State, Taylor was hit in the arm (also the head in the same way that got a penalty later in the game) that altered the pass making it look like he threw it straight to the MSU defender. Freak turnovers are going to happen that aren't necessarily the fault of the player, especially when it comes to interceptions and fumbles while passing. If a QB gets blind-sided because his left tackle got beat, that's not really on the quarterback. I would say those probably only account for a couple of overall turnovers though. Even if you take em away, we still have problems. We definitely have a problem with turnovers, I just had this observation while rewatching the MSU game. Probably should have been a penalty, especially with the way the refs were calling that game. Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 For comparison, Alabama had 24 fumbles (lost 12) and threw three INTs. Their opponents threw 18 INTs and fumbled 24, Alabama recovering 11. Quote Link to comment
QMany Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 For comparison, Alabama had 24 fumbles (lost 12) and threw three INTs. Their opponents threw 18 INTs and fumbled 24, Alabama recovering 11. They also had one of the better Offensive Lines, well, ever. But yes, we need to hold on to the ball. Quote Link to comment
blessed2bahusker Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I am not trying to minimize Taylor's interceptions, but about half of those came late in the game when it was very apparent that our defense could not hold up and we had to match them score for score. Late in the game in those blowouts we were completely one dimensional and had to throw due to the clock. There were a lot of times he just had to take some big risks. It paid off in some of those comebacks and in others it bit us in the butt. At the same time I guess you could say that every QB has a certain number of picks that you could chaulk up to desperation time. Quote Link to comment
tschu Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I am not trying to minimize Taylor's interceptions, but about half of those came late in the game when it was very apparent that our defense could not hold up and we had to match them score for score. Late in the game in those blowouts we were completely one dimensional and had to throw due to the clock. There were a lot of times he just had to take some big risks. It paid off in some of those comebacks and in others it bit us in the butt. At the same time I guess you could say that every QB has a certain number of picks that you could chaulk up to desperation time. Taylor's picks made a huge difference in the Ohio State game and the Wisconsin game, as well as the Cap One bowl. He has definitely thrown interceptions at big moments that matter greatly. The biggest problem Taylor has isn't even INTs though, which only get attention for how terrible most of them look. It's fumbles. Any time you lead the nation in fumbles individually for 3 straight years - that's a huge problem. Quote Link to comment
jmfb Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 I am not trying to minimize Taylor's interceptions, but about half of those came late in the game when it was very apparent that our defense could not hold up and we had to match them score for score. Late in the game in those blowouts we were completely one dimensional and had to throw due to the clock. There were a lot of times he just had to take some big risks. It paid off in some of those comebacks and in others it bit us in the butt. At the same time I guess you could say that every QB has a certain number of picks that you could chaulk up to desperation time. Any time you lead the nation in fumbles individually for 3 straight years - that's a huge problem. That one cant be made excuses for- leading the nation in fumbles 3 years in a row- thats a you problem LOTS of teams out there have to come from behind to win LOTS of teams out there have offensive lines that are less than perfect He chooses to play carelessly with the ball We have others that seem to have a hard time keeping possession as well This isnt a little thing- we "have to get cleaned up" with a few drills and talks This is something that has consistently made our program irrelevant What has been done in the past simply hasnt worked at all- the articles numbers are spot on If we continue to address this in the way it has in the past but "try harder" isnt going to do the trick, expect the same results Had we not had "luck" go our way in 2012 with some of the fumbles we got back along with dropped Interceptions- we could have easily been a 6 loss+ team Quote Link to comment
HUSKER FREAK Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I couldn't read more than a couple of lines from this dousche bag. It wouldn't be so bad if he would give them some credit for the goood they do but EVERYTHING he writes is negative and not the constructive critisism type. Quote Link to comment
blessed2bahusker Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I am not trying to minimize Taylor's interceptions, but about half of those came late in the game when it was very apparent that our defense could not hold up and we had to match them score for score. Late in the game in those blowouts we were completely one dimensional and had to throw due to the clock. There were a lot of times he just had to take some big risks. It paid off in some of those comebacks and in others it bit us in the butt. At the same time I guess you could say that every QB has a certain number of picks that you could chaulk up to desperation time. Taylor's picks made a huge difference in the Ohio State game and the Wisconsin game, as well as the Cap One bowl. He has definitely thrown interceptions at big moments that matter greatly. The biggest problem Taylor has isn't even INTs though, which only get attention for how terrible most of them look. It's fumbles. Any time you lead the nation in fumbles individually for 3 straight years - that's a huge problem. Agree on all counts. Just pointing out the obvious I guess. Many of his picks were in desperation time. As far as the fumbles go, no excuses. None. The fact that this hasn't been addressed is painfully obvious. Hopefully this is the year we get it figured out. Quote Link to comment
CheeseHusker Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 The difference between where we are and where we could be. I don't think it can be emphasized enough. Forget for a second that it's Dirk who wrote it and just read it. 1 Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I couldn't read more than a couple of lines from this dousche bag. It wouldn't be so bad if he would give them some credit for the goood they do but EVERYTHING he writes is negative and not the constructive critisism type. That is entirely untrue, especially related to this article. What about this article is incorrect or slanted? He quantified something we all know is a legitimate problem on this team, and said we can't win big until we clean it up. He even said "Nebraska can do it, too." I'm not the largest fan of Dirk, but he's a good writer, and I bet if I slapped Steve Sipple's name on this article and showed it to this board nobody would be complaining about it. Quote Link to comment
EZ-E Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 He's stating the pretty damn obvious. I don't care how far into detail he went, putting too much stock into how "insightful" this is would be equivalent to people getting mad when Bo says "We didn't execute." Good stats,, but Dirk isn't telling anyone anything new. Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 He's stating the pretty damn obvious. I don't care how far into detail he went, putting too much stock into how "insightful" this is would be equivalent to people getting mad when Bo says "We didn't execute." Good stats,, but Dirk isn't telling anyone anything new. It's obvious only if you look up the information yourself. He simply collected it and plotted it in a way that made it easy for everybody to understand, including the fans that don't frequent this message board or spend their day looking up Husker stats (which, I hate to break it to some people, is the vast majority of Husker fans - ones that don't get on the message boards). If people don't like Dirk that's fine, but I think people are being unreasonable. Slap Sipple's or Christopherson's name on this and nobody would complain, but because it's Dirk, people freak. Quote Link to comment
Count 'Bility Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 As a Dirk-hater, this isnt one of his works that i have a problem with. I was fine with it. It was kinda pointing out the obvious, but like has been said before, he did go through the work to plot out the details and such. It's his terd-stirrin writing I cant stand, when he's trying to insinuate "cracks in the foundation" of the program. And if you dont like Dirk simply because he writes with an honest, negative base, you probably need to read more Sip'. Quote Link to comment
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