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[Junior]

That puts us back in the championship game with a lost chance at revenge against UCLA. Hard to argue with it, except that Bo Pelini generally comes out victorious when it comes to revenge games.

 

2010 Texas, 2009 Texas Tech, and 2009 VaTech beg to differ.

 

Compared to

 

2009 Missouri

2009 Oklahoma

2010 Iowa State

2011 Washington

2012 Northwestern

2012 Michigan

2012 Wisconsin

 

Considering the context of '09 Va Tech and the previous years' games against Texas and Texas Tech, I don't' think they beg to differ at all, since I made no statement that he always wins revenge games; only that there is a general trend towards the positive.

 

Are we taking context of the games into consideration?

The "revenge" was frequently had against a team with considerably lower quality the next year.

 

2008 Oklahoma 12-2 BCS Title Loss

2009 Oklahoma 8-5 Sun Bowl Win

 

2008 Missouri 10-4 Alamo Bowl win

2009 Missouri 8-5 Texas Bowl loss

 

2009 Iowa State 7-6 Insight Bowl win

2010 Iowa State 5-7 No Bowl

 

(I'm skipping Washington, since we both won and lost the game in 2010)

 

2011 Northwestern 6-7 Meinke Bowl Loss

2012 Northwestern 10-3 Gator Bowl Win

The only instance where Pelini beat a team with an improved record.

 

2011 Wisconsin 10-3 Rose Bowl Loss

2012 Wisconsin 8-6 Rose Bowl Loss

 

2011 Michigan 11-2 Sugar Bowl Win

2012 Michigan 8-5 Outback Bowl Loss

 

I say this because, honestly, I expect UCLA to be an improved team in the second year of Mike Nolan.

[Landlord]

That puts us back in the championship game with a lost chance at revenge against UCLA. Hard to argue with it, except that Bo Pelini generally comes out victorious when it comes to revenge games.

 

2010 Texas, 2009 Texas Tech, and 2009 VaTech beg to differ.

 

Compared to

 

2009 Missouri

2009 Oklahoma

2010 Iowa State

2011 Washington

2012 Northwestern

2012 Michigan

2012 Wisconsin

 

Considering the context of '09 Va Tech and the previous years' games against Texas and Texas Tech, I don't' think they beg to differ at all, since I made no statement that he always wins revenge games; only that there is a general trend towards the positive.

 

Are we taking context of the games into consideration?

The "revenge" was frequently had against a team with considerably lower quality the next year.

 

2008 Oklahoma 12-2 BCS Title Loss

2009 Oklahoma 8-5 Sun Bowl Win

 

2008 Missouri 10-4 Alamo Bowl win

2009 Missouri 8-5 Texas Bowl loss

 

2009 Iowa State 7-6 Insight Bowl win

2010 Iowa State 5-7 No Bowl

 

(I'm skipping Washington, since we both won and lost the game in 2010)

 

2011 Northwestern 6-7 Meinke Bowl Loss

2012 Northwestern 10-3 Gator Bowl Win

The only instance where Pelini beat a team with an improved record.

 

2011 Wisconsin 10-3 Rose Bowl Loss

2012 Wisconsin 8-6 Rose Bowl Loss

 

2011 Michigan 11-2 Sugar Bowl Win

2012 Michigan 8-5 Outback Bowl Loss

 

I say this because, honestly, I expect UCLA to be an improved team in the second year of Mike Nolan.

 

 

Okay are you still trying to disagree with my submission that generally speaking, Bo Pelini teams do well in revenge games?

[Junior]

Okay are you still trying to disagree with my submission that generally speaking, Bo Pelini teams do well in revenge games?

 

Sort of. I wouldn't give 7-3 amazing marks, at least good enough to use the revenge game factor as a reason we would beat UCLA. Especially in light of the data I posted. You brought up previous season's games as a barometer to explain the 2009 losses to the Techs, (Maybe that's they answer... Bo can't beat Techs?) therefore I thought putting the wins in context was appropriate.

[Landlord]

Okay are you still trying to disagree with my submission that generally speaking, Bo Pelini teams do well in revenge games?

 

Sort of. I wouldn't give 7-3 amazing marks, at least good enough to use the revenge game factor as a reason we would beat UCLA. Especially in light of the data I posted. You brought up previous season's games as a barometer to explain the 2009 losses to the Techs, (Maybe that's they answer... Bo can't beat Techs?) therefore I thought putting the wins in context was appropriate.

 

 

I brought up the previous season's games to show that those were one play or one moment away from not being revenge games at all. I don't know, I went off on a rabit trail.

 

Anyways, the 3 losses were all 3 or 4 seasons ago. Since then, and since joining the Big Ten, we're undefeated in revenge games. I'll take recency as a trend, absolutely.

[The Dude]

I say this because, honestly, I expect UCLA to be an improved team in the second year of Mike Nolan.

This is either a good joke or funny mistake. Either way I laughed. +1

[B.B. Hemingway]

I'd be fairly surprised if Nebraska wasn't 8-0 going into the Michigan game. Wyoming/S. Miss? Should be easy enough. We're 1-0 in alternate uniform games, I'll take those odds against UCLA. SDSU, Illinois, Purdue, and Minnesota are W's. Northwestern is turning into a great rivalry, but beating us twice in a row at home? Not gonna happen. Michigan? They are being overhyped in my opinion. They were a one man team for four years. How do you go from being so reliable on one man, to a division champ the year after he graduates? Having said that, this is our most likely 'L' for the year. I'd take us at home against Mich St., and Iowa. Penn. St. is going to start into their downward spiral this year. 11-1 seems very doable, with 12-0 being a definite possibility....

[Junior]

I say this because, honestly, I expect UCLA to be an improved team in the second year of Mike Nolan.

This is either a good joke or funny mistake. Either way I laughed. +1

 

Have you ever seen them in a room at the same time?

 

But no... that was just a mistake.

[Junior]

Anyways, the 3 losses were all 3 or 4 seasons ago. Since then, and since joining the Big Ten, we're undefeated in revenge games. I'll take recency as a trend, absolutely.

 

Fair point about the recency trend.

[BlueInTheFace]

These don't make any sense.

 

Indiana

2013 CFN Pred: 6-6

2013 Big Ten Pred: 3-5

 

8/31 Indiana State W

9/7 Navy W

9/14 Bowling Green W

9/21 Missouri L

9/28 OPEN DATE

10/5 Penn State L

10/12 at Michigan St L

10/19 at Michigan W

10/26 OPEN DATE

11/2 Minnesota L

11/9 Illinois W

11/16 at Wisconsin L

11/23 at Ohio State L

11/30 Purdue W

 

Michigan

2013 CFN Pred: 9-3

2013 Big Ten Pred: 6-2

 

8/31 Central Michigan W

9/7 Notre Dame L

9/14 Akron W

9/21 at Connecticut W

9/28 OPEN DATE

10/5 Minnesota W

10/12 at Penn State W

10/19 Indiana W

10/26 OPEN DATE

11/2 at Michigan State L

11/9 Nebraska W

11/16 at Northwestern L

11/23 at Iowa W

11/30 Ohio State W

 

So I guess Indiana and Michigan both win that game?

[Junior]

These don't make any sense.

 

Indiana

2013 CFN Pred: 6-6

2013 Big Ten Pred: 3-5

 

8/31 Indiana State W

9/7 Navy W

9/14 Bowling Green W

9/21 Missouri L

9/28 OPEN DATE

10/5 Penn State L

10/12 at Michigan St L

10/19 at Michigan W

10/26 OPEN DATE

11/2 Minnesota L

11/9 Illinois W

11/16 at Wisconsin L

11/23 at Ohio State L

11/30 Purdue W

 

Michigan

2013 CFN Pred: 9-3

2013 Big Ten Pred: 6-2

 

8/31 Central Michigan W

9/7 Notre Dame L

9/14 Akron W

9/21 at Connecticut W

9/28 OPEN DATE

10/5 Minnesota W

10/12 at Penn State W

10/19 Indiana W

10/26 OPEN DATE

11/2 at Michigan State L

11/9 Nebraska W

11/16 at Northwestern L

11/23 at Iowa W

11/30 Ohio State W

 

So I guess Indiana and Michigan both win that game?

 

Which proves my gut feeling about things like this... they don't put more than a cursory thought into their predictions.

[husker_99]

8/31 Wyoming W

9/7 Southern Miss W

9/14 UCLA W

9/21 South Dakota St W

9/28 OPEN DATE

10/5 Illinois W

10/12 at Purdue W

10/19 OPEN DATE

10/26 at Minnesota W

11/2 Northwestern W

11/9 at Michigan W

11/16 Michigan State W

11/23 at Penn State W

11/30 Iowa W

 

all of our regular season games are winnable. Depending on how well our defense is we could have a chance against Ohio St. But i see it as a loss and we end up in the Rose Bowl with Ohio St getting a chance at National Title game.

[deedsker]

These don't make any sense.

 

Indiana

2013 CFN Pred: 6-6

2013 Big Ten Pred: 3-5

 

8/31 Indiana State W

9/7 Navy W

9/14 Bowling Green W

9/21 Missouri L

9/28 OPEN DATE

10/5 Penn State L

10/12 at Michigan St L

10/19 at Michigan W

10/26 OPEN DATE

11/2 Minnesota L

11/9 Illinois W

11/16 at Wisconsin L

11/23 at Ohio State L

11/30 Purdue W

 

Michigan

2013 CFN Pred: 9-3

2013 Big Ten Pred: 6-2

 

8/31 Central Michigan W

9/7 Notre Dame L

9/14 Akron W

9/21 at Connecticut W

9/28 OPEN DATE

10/5 Minnesota W

10/12 at Penn State W

10/19 Indiana W

10/26 OPEN DATE

11/2 at Michigan State L

11/9 Nebraska W

11/16 at Northwestern L

11/23 at Iowa W

11/30 Ohio State W

 

So I guess Indiana and Michigan both win that game?

[huKSer]

These don't make any sense.

 

Indiana

2013 CFN Pred: 6-6

2013 Big Ten Pred: 3-5

 

8/31 Indiana State W

9/7 Navy W

9/14 Bowling Green W

9/21 Missouri L

9/28 OPEN DATE

10/5 Penn State L

10/12 at Michigan St L

10/19 at Michigan W

10/26 OPEN DATE

11/2 Minnesota L

11/9 Illinois W

11/16 at Wisconsin L

11/23 at Ohio State L

11/30 Purdue W

 

Michigan

2013 CFN Pred: 9-3

2013 Big Ten Pred: 6-2

 

8/31 Central Michigan W

9/7 Notre Dame L

9/14 Akron W

9/21 at Connecticut W

9/28 OPEN DATE

10/5 Minnesota W

10/12 at Penn State W

10/19 Indiana W

10/26 OPEN DATE

11/2 at Michigan State L

11/9 Nebraska W

11/16 at Northwestern L

11/23 at Iowa W

11/30 Ohio State W

 

So I guess Indiana and Michigan both win that game?

After 47 OTs they decide each team gets the win

 

or

 

Michigan wins on the field - then has to vacate the win due to NCAA violations

[The Dude]

Indiana

10/19 at Michigan W

That would be a worse loss than Appalachian State in '07.

[It'sNotAFakeID]

The quality of the opponent next year shouldn't be taken into account because the same Nebraska team didn't play them either.