da skers Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 The media and mouth breathing fans want us to become like the flavor of the month school and run a good program like them so we can compete for national championships. Here's the two stories our press won't bring up (at least for very long) about the current top 2 programs. Forgive me if they've been posted before. I'm having a hard time reading through all the muddle as of late. I found them on another board that's pretty pro "Nebraska way" which is about more than winning games and thought they were worth sharing. Makes me respect our coaches and team even more now. FSU http://deadspin.com/jameis-winston-isnt-the-only-problem-here-an-fsu-teac-1467707410?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow Bama http://www.nevertoyieldfoundation.com/2013/where-theres-fire-theres-fire/comment-page-3/?social_tab=wordpress#comments 5 Quote Link to comment
FrankWheeler Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I don't think it is just the media that wants Nebraska football to be like this, seems like half of the posters here want this too if it means the team can win 2 more football games a year. 1 Quote Link to comment
NUpolo8 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Are we inferring that "The Nebraska Way" puts the athletic department and the University above academic deception and overlooking some things for the "Greater Good?" Because that just isn't true. There are several sides to this in an athletic department. I forget the name, but Florida St had a starting football player become a Rhodes Scholar, for example. Bo Pelini is a football coach in charge of young adults about ready to become independent. His job isn't just to "win", nor it just to "get them ready for life". It's both. He's getting the preparation part done quite well, the other, not so much, and that's why it's up for debate if he gets to continue doing so right now. And firing him because NU and it's fans want to win doesn't mean we have to automatically go dirty. That is really starting to get irritating with its frequency of appearing as a reason for keeping Bo. Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 At least 5 posters on the Rivals free board have told me, point blank, they don't care what cheating or unethical behavior goes on as long as we win. That's really very disappointing. 1 Quote Link to comment
sd'sker Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 At least 5 posters on the Rivals free board have told me, point blank, they don't care what cheating or unethical behavior goes on as long as we win. That's really very disappointing. whoa!?! 5 posters! out of how many? like, 7? Quote Link to comment
FrankWheeler Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Are we inferring that "The Nebraska Way" puts the athletic department and the University above academic deception and overlooking some things for the "Greater Good?" Because that just isn't true. There are several sides to this in an athletic department. I forget the name, but Florida St had a starting football player become a Rhodes Scholar, for example. Bo Pelini is a football coach in charge of young adults about ready to become independent. His job isn't just to "win", nor it just to "get them ready for life". It's both. He's getting the preparation part done quite well, the other, not so much, and that's why it's up for debate if he gets to continue doing so right now. And firing him because NU and it's fans want to win doesn't mean we have to automatically go dirty. That is really starting to get irritating with its frequency of appearing as a reason for keeping Bo. I can see this side, but the name that most frequently gets thrown out there is Tressel, who has a history of 'being dirty'. Quote Link to comment
NUpolo8 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Do you assume that the last four coaches at Nebraska have never done anything below board? Quote Link to comment
da skers Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Do you assume that the last four coaches at Nebraska have never done anything below board? I'm stating that Bo's program isn't doing the things stated in those articles. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Do we really need to run through the litany of questionable decisions Tom Osborne made during his tenure here? Where is this belief that Nebraska has always been a squeaky-clean program coming from? 4 Quote Link to comment
FrankWheeler Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Do you assume that the last four coaches at Nebraska have never done anything below board? Absolutely not, at this point I assume everybody is doing something, some schools are just doing more. Quote Link to comment
da skers Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Are we inferring that "The Nebraska Way" puts the athletic department and the University above academic deception and overlooking some things for the "Greater Good?" Because that just isn't true. There are several sides to this in an athletic department. I forget the name, but Florida St had a starting football player become a Rhodes Scholar, for example. Bo Pelini is a football coach in charge of young adults about ready to become independent. His job isn't just to "win", nor it just to "get them ready for life". It's both. He's getting the preparation part done quite well, the other, not so much, and that's why it's up for debate if he gets to continue doing so right now. And firing him because NU and it's fans want to win doesn't mean we have to automatically go dirty. That is really starting to get irritating with its frequency of appearing as a reason for keeping Bo. I'm sorry but he is winning. It might not be the way you want but his win percentage indicates he's doing a lot better than about 108 or more other D1 programs over the last 6 years. Quote Link to comment
sd'sker Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 if all we want out of bo is a clean program, we should be paying him a lot less. Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 It's mighty sad that any Husker "fan" would correlate winning with cheating or being dirty. If I recall, that isn't how we accomplished the feat in the past, it's not how we presently do it, and, other than some wild, baseless, assumptions about what others want, it's not how more than a handful of mouth breathers want to do it in the future. Edit- To be clear, I am not saying we are or were squeaky clean in all aspects. Every program is going to have some issues but, we have been pretty darned clean when it comes to NCAA sanctions and the like. It's a pretty wild leap, imo, to say that because some fans want to win more, and because a very small handful of lunatics would accomplish that feat at any cost, that must mean winning=cheating. And, to carry it further, since Bo has run a clean program, the only way to stay clean is to keep Bo. They're both fallacious arguments. Quote Link to comment
NUpolo8 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Do we really need to run through the litany of questionable decisions Tom Osborne made during his tenure here? Where is this belief that Nebraska has always been a squeaky-clean program coming from? It would appear. Quote Link to comment
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