BigRedBuster Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I'll make a bold statement that a lot won't agree with. TAs throwing motion is not the biggest problem by far and if you try to change it, it will be a disaster. There are some little things like footwork that can be improved on but, that's something every QB works on and where these coavhes will focus as far as the act of throwing the ball. Change s little footwork and the rest of the body will follow naturally without actually changing his throwing motion. It's like when someone finally taught Tmart that he was using the wrong foot the begin his drop back after snap. That one little change made him much more efficient getting rid of the ball. The coaches have basically said this same thing. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Throwing mechanics are the least of his problems. It's mostly mental. E.g. he throws the ball into triple coverage when there's no one within 10 yards of one of the other receivers or a running back. Quote Link to comment
hskrfan4life Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I gotta think that TA is well over 60% next year. i don't know about that, but i would rather see him throw the ball away than force it and throw INT's......that needs to change, nothing worse than a bunch of damn turn overs and losing field position! Nothing worse? I can think of lots of things worse, far worse....like your wife sleeping with your brother for example. Your family killed by a drunk driver. I could go on and on and unless you are a complete moron (literally, and I don't think you are) I think you get the idea. wow, get your dick stepped on today? Hahaha! No. Just trying to point out that there are things far worse than a bad football game. What are you talking about?! Nebraska football is life! Quote Link to comment
Blackshirt96 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 So he is going to tweak minor things in regards to mechanics regarding TA...ummm last I checked that is exactly what TA needs. He doesn't shot put the ball like TM used toAnd teach him not to force the ball into coverage, to check down, and to do these things with the correct timing. Sooo mostly things that don't involve mechanics Did you read it. They are trying to change the little details like making their throws more compact, working on release & elbow postion. That is all mechanics. The idea is not to completely change how a QB throws, but to work on the details that will make him more accurate of a thrower & have a faster arm. Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 So he is going to tweak minor things in regards to mechanics regarding TA...ummm last I checked that is exactly what TA needs. He doesn't shot put the ball like TM used toAnd teach him not to force the ball into coverage, to check down, and to do these things with the correct timing.Sooo mostly things that don't involve mechanics Did you read it. They are trying to change the little details like making their throws more compact, working on release & elbow postion. That is all mechanics. The idea is not to completely change how a QB throws, but to work on the details that will make him more accurate of a thrower & have a faster arm. Minor tweaks yes. However TAs biggest flaws have very little to do with mechanics Quote Link to comment
Blackshirt96 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 So he is going to tweak minor things in regards to mechanics regarding TA...ummm last I checked that is exactly what TA needs. He doesn't shot put the ball like TM used toAnd teach him not to force the ball into coverage, to check down, and to do these things with the correct timing.Sooo mostly things that don't involve mechanics Did you read it. They are trying to change the little details like making their throws more compact, working on release & elbow postion. That is all mechanics. The idea is not to completely change how a QB throws, but to work on the details that will make him more accurate of a thrower & have a faster arm. Minor tweaks yes. However TAs biggest flaws have very little to do with mechanics I think all will agree with that. Progressions & timing seem to be his big down fall. As far as timing goes a more compact throwing motion & a quickier release will help with some of his timing issues. Elbow postion should help with accuracy & control. As well they have been working a lot on footwork which is a very important part of a QB's mechanics. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 So he is going to tweak minor things in regards to mechanics regarding TA...ummm last I checked that is exactly what TA needs. He doesn't shot put the ball like TM used toAnd teach him not to force the ball into coverage, to check down, and to do these things with the correct timing.Sooo mostly things that don't involve mechanics Did you read it. They are trying to change the little details like making their throws more compact, working on release & elbow postion. That is all mechanics. The idea is not to completely change how a QB throws, but to work on the details that will make him more accurate of a thrower & have a faster arm. Minor tweaks yes. However TAs biggest flaws have very little to do with mechanics He is inaccurate because his mechanics are bad (mainly on shorter throws). He can get better if he can improve in other area - not staring down receivers, not pre-determining where he's going to throw the ball - but he's going to struggle to complete a very high percentage because his mechanics keep him from completing a lot of short throws that boost your completion percentage. Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Yea, the header says Langsdorf won't make drastic changes, but footwork is not really a drastic change- its a necessary part of throwing an accurate football. Tommy's got some footwork issues and he needs to stop strong arming his passes. Your feet and your body lead the throw, your arm just follows through. Tommy looks like he's muscling it sometimes. Mavric's right, if Tommy wants to improve in these other areas, he will have to at least work on this aspect of his mechanics. Also, learn how to throw a touch pass. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 Footwork isn't a drastic change compared to changing something with your throwing motion. But it's very hard to change because - like Langsdorf said - they've been doing something one way for so long that it's really hard to break the habit. In TA's case, he's been so used to being able to muscle throws that he gets sloppy with his footwork on short throws or when he has to hurry. That's very hard to overcome. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 TA doesn't have major issues with his footwork unless he is rushed to throw or feels under pressure. If he is just out throwing the ball in warmups or if he is in a play where he doesn't feel pressured, his footwork isn't horrible. Many things can help him get better at reducing those times where this is a problem. This can go all the way to the scheme he is asked to run. If he is more comfortable with the passing scheme and the reads, he isn't going to feel as rushed mentally. If his Oline is doing a better job of pass pro, then he isn't going to feel as rushed....etc. Riley has stated that he is a "naturally thrower" and that is why he doesn't see the need to make drastic changes to his actual throwing motion. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 TA doesn't have major issues with his footwork unless he is rushed to throw or feels under pressure. If he is just out throwing the ball in warmups or if he is in a play where he doesn't feel pressured, his footwork isn't horrible. Many things can help him get better at reducing those times where this is a problem. This can go all the way to the scheme he is asked to run. If he is more comfortable with the passing scheme and the reads, he isn't going to feel as rushed mentally. If his Oline is doing a better job of pass pro, then he isn't going to feel as rushed....etc. Riley has stated that he is a "naturally thrower" and that is why he doesn't see the need to make drastic changes to his actual throwing motion. No. He rarely steps into short throws, even when not under pressure. His weight is still on his back foot. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 You can tell he isn't stepping into throws by how often he's throwing high. When you don't transfer your weight and drive the ball, you usually over-throw the receiver. That is often where TA misses on short throws. 1 Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 You can tell he isn't stepping into throws by how often he's throwing high. When you don't transfer your weight and drive the ball, you usually over-throw the receiver. That is often where TA misses on short throws. Explains why the hardest pass for him is in the flats Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Solution: Run the triple option like the old days. Tommy seems like he might be able to do that really well. Quote Link to comment
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