Gregory or Abdullah. Who has the better NFL career?

[NUance]

Both have been relatively injury free in college. But right now neither one is an optimal size for the NFL. Both are a bit small. Abdullah is a bit small for pass blocking. Gregory has nice height and reach, but could use about 20 lbs of muscle.

 

The easy answer is Abdullah since he is more of a known quantity, and the odds of off-field problems are minimal. Also, I think Ameer is shiftier than NFL scouts give him credit for. But Gregory clearly has more upside potential. Will he develop it? That's the $64k question. I'm going with Gregory. I think he gets over this hump, whatever it is, and becomes an edge rushing beast.

[zoogs]

Ameer did go to Detroit...

 

I want to say Ameer, but it's not easy being a RB, period. You are always going to face some 7th round or undrafted guy who they want to feel is just as good because they don't have to pay him as much. There's very little middle ground between journeyman and indispensable.

[Hedley Lamarr]

Ameer because he will be in the league longer. Randy will find a way to get suspended imo

[AFhusker]

Ameer because he will be in the league longer. Randy will find a way to get suspended imo

 

I agree, I don't think Randy makes it through his rookie contract because he won't be able to get rid of his addiction demons. The worst case scenario for Ameer is that he becomes a 3rd down back like Helu is. But everyone needs a 3rd down back so he will last longer and therefore will have a better career.

[ScottyIce]

Gregory will wear #99 and Abdullah #21 if you guys cared.

[The Dude]

It all depends if Gregory can get on the right track. All-Pro potential.

 

Abdullah will be a fantasy football star. The Lions love to throw to the RB, that's what they drafted him for.

 

I'll go optimistic and say Gregory gets it turned around and has a great career.

 

Gregory.

[ScottyIce]

It looks like Oregon State has had 5 guys drafted compared to our 3.... Says a lot about Riley's ability to scout and develop talent..

[skersfan]

I think Ameer's knee problem will show back up in the NFL. Gregory is on a short rope, Dallas will not put up with his crap. I see no reason for him to change. He flushed damned near everything away a few months ago.

 

I hope Ameer makes it, but just not big enough, fast enough to make it in the NFL.

[The Dude]

I like the situation for both of these guys. Perfect offense for Ameer. Good depth chart situation. My assumption is he's a day 1 starter, and a long time starter. He'll thrive.

 

Randy will have every opportunity to succeed in Dallas. They have one of, if not the best, support progrums in place to help troubled players like this.

 

He'll have to try really hard to get in trouble.

 

On the football side of it, I don't think there's a better coach for him than Rod Marinelli. Like I said before, if that guy can't get the most out of Gregory, no one can. I just hope Marinelli sticks around for a couple more years.

 

The support and coaching will be there, the rest is up to him.

 

I think they're both going to be star players.

[suh_fan93]

I think the jury is still out much more with Gregory than with Abdullah at this point. If Ameer has a good offensive line in front of him who could run block I could see him being a really good back in the league. He can make people miss and is stronger than he seems. Gregory has the ability but it's his physical size that concerns me. I actually do think he is stronger than people give him credit for though and I really like how he uses those long arms to his advantage.

 

I'd love to see both of them show up in the Sportscenter highlights. I'm excited to see how both of them do.

[AFhusker]

I like the situation for both of these guys. Perfect offense for Ameer. Good depth chart situation. My assumption is he's a day 1 starter, and a long time starter. He'll thrive.

 

Randy will have every opportunity to succeed in Dallas. They have one of, if not the best, support progrums in place to help troubled players like this.

 

He'll have to try really hard to get in trouble.

 

On the football side of it, I don't think there's a better coach for him than Rod Marinelli. Like I said before, if that guy can't get the most out of Gregory, no one can. I just hope Marinelli sticks around for a couple more years.

 

The support and coaching will be there, the rest is up to him.

 

I think they're both going to be star players.

If you mean by having "the best support system" for Randy you really mean that they turn a blind eye while they do coke and prostitutes in a Dallas hotel, then I agree with you. The only advantage the Cowboys have for Randy is that they don't care if you smoke weed or are a crack head as long as you produce. I hope he pulls his head out of his ass and gets his life strait and has a great career with someone other than the cowboys. But I don't think he will have the support needed especially if it is true that he is asking Irvin to be his mentor. Can there be a worse mentor than that crack head?

 

[The Dude]

No. Just stop.

[AFhusker]

No. Just stop.

I speak the truth.

[The Dude]

 

 

No. Just stop.

I speak the truth.

I've never seen you back up anything you've said, to be honest.

[AFhusker]

 

 

No. Just stop.

I speak the truth.

I've never seen you back up anything you've said, to be honest.

 

Then you are blind, but here you go. Any more questions?

 

http://sports.gunaxin.com/ten-best-narcotic-moments-in-nfl-history/64489

The Dallas Cowboys of the 1990’s were as strong, as entertaining, and as troubled as any team the NFL has known. Michael Irvin was their leader.

Now respected as a quality analyst for the NFL Network, Irvin was known for his penchant for blow and being blown when he was the top offensive weapon for quarterback Troy Aikman during championship runs under Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer. The details of Irvin’s party pleasures were detailed by a Penthouse Pet in the January 1997 edition of the men’s magazine. My apologies as I can’t find a decent link to it online. To be honest it’s fairly predictable… Irvin likes sex with multiple women, sex is better with cocaine, and when you are trying to please multiple women for multiple nights of the week, you need cocaine… LOTS of cocaine.

That’s why he’s The Playmaker. Based on the history built by this league and the evolution of sexual enhancement since, you can’t blame Irvin for the approach. Viagra wasn’t an option and, let’s face it, if you were lucky enough to have been there you would do what you had to do.

And you’d walk away with one hell of a story.

 

 

Here's Nate Newton from the same era:

Another product of the Dallas Cowboys system of felony supremacy, Newton has an amazing case few can match in terms of ambition and profit potential (let’s face it, in the NFL and in the drug czar game… you either go big or you go home).

Newton’s first arrest was in November of 2001 when he and two women were arrested with 213 pounds of weed in a van (down by the river… yes, it’s funny every time). Then, in one of the craziest moves in the history of history, while out on bond six weeks later Newton was arrested again, this time alone with 175 pounds of marijuana in his truck. The next year he plead guilty to conspiracy to distrubute and possession with intent to distribute.

The plea deal got him off light again as NFL money saved the day. Newton was facing 20 years and a $1 million fine but instead pulled a 30-month stint with a $25,000 fine and 250 hours of community service (according to CNN, he lectured to students about the importance of avoiding drugs… I would think lectures about the importance of not getting caught while dealing with mass amounts of drugs would have been more educational).

 

And some unkown dude that shows that they still turn a blind eye after the 1990's;

Hambrick would rate higher except he wasn’t so good on the football field. A former running back for the Dallas Cowboys and Arizona Cardinals (just like Emmitt Smith… minus the confidence, the stature, the Hall of Fame career, but with more crack), Hambrick was convicted in 2007 after selling substantial amounts of crack cocaine to an undercover police officer. In fact, he sold rocks to the popo three times during September of 2007, picking up one count of selling five or more grams of crack cocaine), with two counts of distributing 50 grams or more of crack cocaine later that same month.

After hiding from the police for a small amount of time Hambrick was caught and, in May of 2008, sentenced to five years in a federal prison. All in all he sold 78 grams of crack to the police. To make matters worse, he’s rumored as a snitch… supposedly destined for a minimum of 10 years in prison for those crimes but, after “cooperating with police, only serving five after reaching a plea agreement with authorities.

He’s in prison as we speak… so the story may have more to tell in the years ahead. Stay tuned.