True2tRA Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Nope. I learned everything I needed to know after the BYU game. Piss poor all around. Welcome to the Mike Riley era. Nice coaches, terrible teams. Collins doesn't look like 1st team All Big 10. Banker, please do not get on the plane back to Nebraska. Please. Could you expand a bit on how you're feeling about things? Quote Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I don't want to turn into Minnesota. The Golden Gophers were titans of college football in the 1930s & won a national championship as recently as 1960. They dropped off a cliff after that and have only recently become a contender in their own conference again. I concur, and this was my original concern when you fire not one but two coaches who win over 70 percent of their games. Neither Solich nor Pelini were going to get us where we want to be. Callahan wasn't an improvement over Solich (when you factor in Cosgrove), and it remains to be seen if Riley is an improvement over Pelini. Nobody is beating down Frank's door to get him back to coaching a Power 5 school, though. It'll be interesting to see if anyone wants Pelini in years to come. The problem is not firing coaches, but hiring coaches. Callahan was fired from the Raiders for running the team into the ground. Riley is a career mediocre coach. At least Bo was an up and coming DC, but NU has cash; get a top coach and a top staff. I'm still concerned about the staff Riley put together. Especially on defense. Banker's defenses didn't impress at OSU, and so far they aren't better here. Three games is a terrible sample size, but there are some concerns, especially how the secondary suddenly seems inept when they were... "not inept" before. Davie didn't suddenly turn into a merde cover guy, neither did Kalu. Not sure what to make of that, but it's scheme-related, definitely. I agree with the issue of hiring. Callahan was always a mistake, from Day 1 just about everyone knew it would end badly. Riley carries his own baggage, but seems more a "Nebraska Guy" than anyone since Solich. Does he have a run left in him at this stage of his career? A lot of that depends, I believe, on how married he is to his Assistants. If something isn't working, he's got to be ready to pull the trigger. Callahan wouldn't with Cosgrove, and it got him run out of town. Same's going to happen with Riley if his guys aren't cutting it and he won't make changes. As if he cares? NU stepped up and guaranteed him a golden parachute/retirement fund that OSU would never have offered. Hell they couldn't even afford the buyout to fire him. NU paid it and then offered him more. He turns around and grabs the guys OSU also wanted fired and guarantees them a retirement package. Does anyone really believe he's planning to stay past 5 years? So what sort of pressure is going to make him rollover on his best bud Banker? Harvey and the GingerKid are probably already writing up new pay raises with buyouts that would make Jerry Jones have a stroke. Best to just buckle up...gonna be a bumpy ride. Just let it all out. Just don't understand it. Trying real hard to be patient with the guy, but damn. I mean, situation : You're on the verge of being run outta town by the school you've dedicated a good chunk of your life to despite the lack of resources they provide. Only reason he's still there is because OSU doesn't think they can sell 3 million cupcakes at the campus bake sale to buy yer ass out. Along comes NU, tongue wagging and checkbook out, and says you're the guy, we got all the best toys, here's a blank check, just take us to the good times. So what do you do? You go drag all the guys who got you into that S#!T storm in the first place. Brilliant. Oh but he's "comfortable" with Banker and Cavanaugh, he can trust them. To do what? F^6k sh#t up and keep the hate focused on them rather than a "nice guy" like you? That's like chicks who hang around with fat girls to make themselves look hotter. I'm just not seeing or feeling it right now. Looking at the schedule I can envision us never seeing the other side of .500 all season. And I'm out of #@!*&$@ beer!!! It's game THREE! That's about 20 games too few to make any sort of confident qualitative and quantitative judgment on the hire. 2 Quote Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I don't want to turn into Minnesota. The Golden Gophers were titans of college football in the 1930s & won a national championship as recently as 1960. They dropped off a cliff after that and have only recently become a contender in their own conference again. I concur, and this was my original concern when you fire not one but two coaches who win over 70 percent of their games. Neither Solich nor Pelini were going to get us where we want to be. Callahan wasn't an improvement over Solich (when you factor in Cosgrove), and it remains to be seen if Riley is an improvement over Pelini. Nobody is beating down Frank's door to get him back to coaching a Power 5 school, though. It'll be interesting to see if anyone wants Pelini in years to come. The problem is not firing coaches, but hiring coaches. Callahan was fired from the Raiders for running the team into the ground. Riley is a career mediocre coach. At least Bo was an up and coming DC, but NU has cash; get a top coach and a top staff. I'm still concerned about the staff Riley put together. Especially on defense. Banker's defenses didn't impress at OSU, and so far they aren't better here. Three games is a terrible sample size, but there are some concerns, especially how the secondary suddenly seems inept when they were... "not inept" before. Davie didn't suddenly turn into a merde cover guy, neither did Kalu. Not sure what to make of that, but it's scheme-related, definitely. I agree with the issue of hiring. Callahan was always a mistake, from Day 1 just about everyone knew it would end badly. Riley carries his own baggage, but seems more a "Nebraska Guy" than anyone since Solich. Does he have a run left in him at this stage of his career? A lot of that depends, I believe, on how married he is to his Assistants. If something isn't working, he's got to be ready to pull the trigger. Callahan wouldn't with Cosgrove, and it got him run out of town. Same's going to happen with Riley if his guys aren't cutting it and he won't make changes. As if he cares? NU stepped up and guaranteed him a golden parachute/retirement fund that OSU would never have offered. Hell they couldn't even afford the buyout to fire him. NU paid it and then offered him more. He turns around and grabs the guys OSU also wanted fired and guarantees them a retirement package. Does anyone really believe he's planning to stay past 5 years? So what sort of pressure is going to make him rollover on his best bud Banker? Harvey and the GingerKid are probably already writing up new pay raises with buyouts that would make Jerry Jones have a stroke. Best to just buckle up...gonna be a bumpy ride. Just let it all out. Just don't understand it. Trying real hard to be patient with the guy, but damn. I mean, situation : You're on the verge of being run outta town by the school you've dedicated a good chunk of your life to despite the lack of resources they provide. Only reason he's still there is because OSU doesn't think they can sell 3 million cupcakes at the campus bake sale to buy yer ass out. Along comes NU, tongue wagging and checkbook out, and says you're the guy, we got all the best toys, here's a blank check, just take us to the good times. So what do you do? You go drag all the guys who got you into that S#!T storm in the first place. Brilliant. Oh but he's "comfortable" with Banker and Cavanaugh, he can trust them. To do what? F^6k sh#t up and keep the hate focused on them rather than a "nice guy" like you? That's like chicks who hang around with fat girls to make themselves look hotter. I'm just not seeing or feeling it right now. Looking at the schedule I can envision us never seeing the other side of .500 all season. And I'm out of #@!*&$@ beer!!! LOL. Best post of the night so far! 1 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 So let's move the goalposts by pretending that never happened with Pelini. OK. Has nothing to do with moving the goalposts......just as 408 has nothing to do with Riley being 1-2 as our head coach. Bashing Pelini is not making Riley look better. 408 is an attempted distraction. Riley is not yet sniffing Pelini's or Solich's winning percentage. He's right there with Callahan. Perfect. 408 was a big reason Bo was fired. Once that happened, it opened the door for Riley. It kind of effects it. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 So let's move the goalposts by pretending that never happened with Pelini. OK. It's amazing that it's September of 2015 and we're already talking about moving goalposts. Most Nebraska fans agree that it was time for Bo to go. None of us could do more than guess at how smooth the transition would be. All of us had opinions about the state of the roster Riley inherited -- some were more "optimistic" than others. So, we've now lost two tough OOC games on the last play against probably similarly talented teams. It looks like those more skeptical about the roster and depth were closer to the mark, but there's a lot of year left, so it could go either way. How one chooses to handle that...well, that is their business. I'll be nice and leave it at that. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 408 was a big reason Bo was fired. Once that happened, it opened the door for Riley. It kind of effects it. But we liked Bo, so we forget about stuff like that. We don't like Riley, so we pay attention to his stats. It's science. Quote Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 So let's move the goalposts by pretending that never happened with Pelini. OK. Has nothing to do with moving the goalposts......just as 408 has nothing to do with Riley being 1-2 as our head coach. Bashing Pelini is not making Riley look better. 408 is an attempted distraction. Riley is not yet sniffing Pelini's or Solich's winning percentage. He's right there with Callahan. Perfect. You know what's funny? You have 4 options for win percentages after just three games: .000, .333, .667, 1.000, and if we were to draw mindless comparisons based on win percentages after three games, Bo Pelini should've been the next Tom Osborne, which wasn't the case as it turns out. Well, we all know how that turned out, don't we? Quote Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Nope. I learned everything I needed to know after the BYU game. Piss poor all around. Welcome to the Mike Riley era. Nice coaches, terrible teams. Collins doesn't look like 1st team All Big 10. Banker, please do not get on the plane back to Nebraska. Please. Could you expand a bit on how you're feeling about things? What do you mean? Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 So let's move the goalposts by pretending that never happened with Pelini. OK.Has nothing to do with moving the goalposts......just as 408 has nothing to do with Riley being 1-2 as our head coach. Bashing Pelini is not making Riley look better. 408 is an attempted distraction. Riley is not yet sniffing Pelini's or Solich's winning percentage. He's right there with Callahan. Perfect. 408 was a big reason Bo was fired. Once that happened, it opened the door for Riley. It kind of effects it. ......and behind door #2....... Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Nope. I learned everything I needed to know after the BYU game. Piss poor all around. Welcome to the Mike Riley era. Nice coaches, terrible teams. Collins doesn't look like 1st team All Big 10. Banker, please do not get on the plane back to Nebraska. Please. Could you expand a bit on how you're feeling about things? What do you mean? Ah....thank you. I understand now. 2 Quote Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Nope. I learned everything I needed to know after the BYU game. Piss poor all around. Welcome to the Mike Riley era. Nice coaches, terrible teams. Collins doesn't look like 1st team All Big 10. Banker, please do not get on the plane back to Nebraska. Please. Could you expand a bit on how you're feeling about things? What do you mean? Ah....thank you. I understand now. Ah... you're welcome. You understand now. Quote Link to comment
hskrfan4life Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Welcome to the Mike Riley era. Nice coaches, terrible teams. I had no idea you could see into the future. What's tomorrow's powerball and are you really good at picking games since you can see into the future? How about we calm the F down. Fans don't change, even though coaches do. 2 Quote Link to comment
RedRex Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I don't want to turn into Minnesota. The Golden Gophers were titans of college football in the 1930s & won a national championship as recently as 1960. They dropped off a cliff after that and have only recently become a contender in their own conference again. I concur, and this was my original concern when you fire not one but two coaches who win over 70 percent of their games. Neither Solich nor Pelini were going to get us where we want to be. Callahan wasn't an improvement over Solich (when you factor in Cosgrove), and it remains to be seen if Riley is an improvement over Pelini. Nobody is beating down Frank's door to get him back to coaching a Power 5 school, though. It'll be interesting to see if anyone wants Pelini in years to come. The problem is not firing coaches, but hiring coaches. Callahan was fired from the Raiders for running the team into the ground. Riley is a career mediocre coach. At least Bo was an up and coming DC, but NU has cash; get a top coach and a top staff. I'm still concerned about the staff Riley put together. Especially on defense. Banker's defenses didn't impress at OSU, and so far they aren't better here. Three games is a terrible sample size, but there are some concerns, especially how the secondary suddenly seems inept when they were... "not inept" before. Davie didn't suddenly turn into a merde cover guy, neither did Kalu. Not sure what to make of that, but it's scheme-related, definitely. I agree with the issue of hiring. Callahan was always a mistake, from Day 1 just about everyone knew it would end badly. Riley carries his own baggage, but seems more a "Nebraska Guy" than anyone since Solich. Does he have a run left in him at this stage of his career? A lot of that depends, I believe, on how married he is to his Assistants. If something isn't working, he's got to be ready to pull the trigger. Callahan wouldn't with Cosgrove, and it got him run out of town. Same's going to happen with Riley if his guys aren't cutting it and he won't make changes. As if he cares? NU stepped up and guaranteed him a golden parachute/retirement fund that OSU would never have offered. Hell they couldn't even afford the buyout to fire him. NU paid it and then offered him more. He turns around and grabs the guys OSU also wanted fired and guarantees them a retirement package. Does anyone really believe he's planning to stay past 5 years? So what sort of pressure is going to make him rollover on his best bud Banker? Harvey and the GingerKid are probably already writing up new pay raises with buyouts that would make Jerry Jones have a stroke. Best to just buckle up...gonna be a bumpy ride. Just let it all out. Just don't understand it. Trying real hard to be patient with the guy, but damn. I mean, situation : You're on the verge of being run outta town by the school you've dedicated a good chunk of your life to despite the lack of resources they provide. Only reason he's still there is because OSU doesn't think they can sell 3 million cupcakes at the campus bake sale to buy yer ass out. Along comes NU, tongue wagging and checkbook out, and says you're the guy, we got all the best toys, here's a blank check, just take us to the good times. So what do you do? You go drag all the guys who got you into that S#!T storm in the first place. Brilliant. Oh but he's "comfortable" with Banker and Cavanaugh, he can trust them. To do what? F^6k sh#t up and keep the hate focused on them rather than a "nice guy" like you? That's like chicks who hang around with fat girls to make themselves look hotter. I'm just not seeing or feeling it right now. Looking at the schedule I can envision us never seeing the other side of .500 all season. And I'm out of #@!*&$@ beer!!! It's game THREE! That's about 20 games too few to make any sort of confident qualitative and quantitative judgment on the hire. Hey you said let it out. Don't offer a shoulder to cry on then complain about the snot getting on your shirt. 1 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 So let's move the goalposts by pretending that never happened with Pelini. OK. Has nothing to do with moving the goalposts......just as 408 has nothing to do with Riley being 1-2 as our head coach. Bashing Pelini is not making Riley look better. 408 is an attempted distraction. Riley is not yet sniffing Pelini's or Solich's winning percentage. He's right there with Callahan. Perfect. 408 was a big reason Bo was fired. Once that happened, it opened the door for Riley. It kind of effects it. ......and behind door #2....... It's Carl Pelini with a coked out escort! Sorry, thanks for playing...LETS MAKE A DEAL! Quote Link to comment
hskrfan4life Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 BYU leads #10 UCLA 10-3 in 2nd quarter. Quote Link to comment
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