alwayshusking Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 The one thing that gives me hope is that we are not giving up that many point given that we are ranked last is pass D. Perhaps with a little improvement we can really shut down the scoring. One of the benefits of being good vs the run is that it can produce a good red zone D. Our TD% given up in the red zone has been quite good this year at 38.1%. The number of red zone trips allowed to our opponents has been the problem thus far. Need to cut down those opportunities. Quote Link to comment
KingBlank Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 These 408 posts are getting real lame. We get it, Bo had some very bad games. Do we have to hear about it every time people try to make commentary about the CURRENT staff? Well, some people need a schtick because they don't bring anything relevant to the conversation. Instead of trying to critically analyze, they'd rather bash the players, and not shift any of the blame to the guys getting paid millions of dollars. How quaint. I assume that you are singling me out, You try to dismiss what I bring to the table, which has included (facts, stats. and video) in the last few days to back up my points, just because you can't dispute it, you try to discredit and kill the messenger. As a poster, that is within bounds, as a mod. that is unprofessional. I will continue to bring facts to back up my solid points as needed. Oh, you mean your anecdotes? We have the worst passing defense in the country. Tell me with a straight face that it's solely due to our lack of talent, and it's not due to scheme/coaching. Also, I've done nothing other than point out you would rather trash our players, instead of holding the coaches (who make millions of dollars) accountable. Any perceived slights beyond that is on you. Facts, stats, video, can not be refuted. You say I do not bring anything relevant to the conversation, my guess I that plenty on the board would disagree. I do not believe it is solely our lack of talent, just 85% of it. The men who make millions will do fine as the season and their careers progress. 408 stole millions without producing anything, we can give the current staff plenty of leeway before they ever get to his level. I'm not sure it's 85%. It's probably 50-50. We don't have the talent to work Bankers scheme. And Banker is using a scheme not conducive to the players talent. Right, which is why I put it on the coaches to adjust the scheme. We heard all offseason how they were good at adapting to talent, and how they would mold the scheme to work with what we have. Langsdorf and the offense has done it, quite efficiently. Banker? Nope... I kind of agree with this. I asked the same from Pelini too. I asked over and over for him to change his scheme because his players could not execute it. Here's the thing though. Four games into the year, I'm not entirely sure Banker knows what he's got as far as talent goes. Between the injuries and plain unfamiliarity, I think they're trying to find the guys who can actually execute HIS scheme, and I don't blame him. A coach deserves the chance to utilize what he wants from his defense and his scheme. No he doesn't deserve anything! What are you talking about? He deserves the criticism he receives because his defense, welp is awful right now. You know what he better do is figure it out and win some football games. I didn't mince words about the previous staff or the ones before it, I expect absolute effective coaching. It's not effective? Then he needs to get out of the press room and into the film room, and learn how big boy play football. This staff seems highly inexperienced at coaching with this much pressure, and frankly that scares me. And don't start freaking out about how many years they have coached at what level, that's not the point. I deserve to have a winning football team, because I pay for tickets and donation, blah blah ect. He deserves nothing but the expectation to win, and win now. Quote Link to comment
RADAR Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I thought Riley was had this incredible eye for talent. Why would he even take this job if the talent level was so poor? Seriously, "poor talent level" is not a good excuse for Riley's performance. Riley said he was shocked when he looked at the depth chart the day after he was hired. Shocked as in "gee whilikers they got a lot more players than we had at OSU!" Hell, he had to split everybody up into two groups. He'd never had to deal with numbers like that before. not really, to bad it wasn't like that Quote Link to comment
RADAR Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 These 408 posts are getting real lame. We get it, Bo had some very bad games. Do we have to hear about it every time people try to make commentary about the CURRENT staff? Well, some people need a schtick because they don't bring anything relevant to the conversation. Instead of trying to critically analyze, they'd rather bash the players, and not shift any of the blame to the guys getting paid millions of dollars. How quaint. I assume that you are singling me out, You try to dismiss what I bring to the table, which has included (facts, stats. and video) in the last few days to back up my points, just because you can't dispute it, you try to discredit and kill the messenger. As a poster, that is within bounds, as a mod. that is unprofessional. I will continue to bring facts to back up my solid points as needed. Oh, you mean your anecdotes? We have the worst passing defense in the country. Tell me with a straight face that it's solely due to our lack of talent, and it's not due to scheme/coaching. Also, I've done nothing other than point out you would rather trash our players, instead of holding the coaches (who make millions of dollars) accountable. Any perceived slights beyond that is on you. Facts, stats, video, can not be refuted. You say I do not bring anything relevant to the conversation, my guess I that plenty on the board would disagree. I do not believe it is solely our lack of talent, just 85% of it. The men who make millions will do fine as the season and their careers progress. 408 stole millions without producing anything, we can give the current staff plenty of leeway before they ever get to his level. I'm not sure it's 85%. It's probably 50-50. We don't have the talent to work Bankers scheme. And Banker is using a scheme not conducive to the players talent. Right, which is why I put it on the coaches to adjust the scheme. We heard all offseason how they were good at adapting to talent, and how they would mold the scheme to work with what we have. Langsdorf and the offense has done it, quite efficiently. Banker? Nope... I kind of agree with this. I asked the same from Pelini too. I asked over and over for him to change his scheme because his players could not execute it. Here's the thing though. Four games into the year, I'm not entirely sure Banker knows what he's got as far as talent goes. Between the injuries and plain unfamiliarity, I think they're trying to find the guys who can actually execute HIS scheme, and I don't blame him. A coach deserves the chance to utilize what he wants from his defense and his scheme. No he doesn't deserve anything! What are you talking about? He deserves the criticism he receives because his defense, welp is awful right now. You know what he better do is figure it out and win some football games. I didn't mince words about the previous staff or the ones before it, I expect absolute effective coaching. It's not effective? Then he needs to get out of the press room and into the film room, and learn how big boy play football. This staff seems highly inexperienced at coaching with this much pressure, and frankly that scares me. And don't start freaking out about how many years they have coached at what level, that's not the point. I deserve to have a winning football team, because I pay for tickets and donation, blah blah ect. He deserves nothing but the expectation to win, and win now. That is freaking hilarious Quote Link to comment
RADAR Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Banker has a chance to win me over these next couple of weeks. I'm not holding my breath or anything but I'm willing to see what he can do, not that I have a choice in the matter. Prepare to be disappointed or not Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I thought Riley was had this incredible eye for talent. Why would he even take this job if the talent level was so poor? Seriously, "poor talent level" is not a good excuse for Riley's performance. Just curious. Who do you purpose, realistically, should be the coach right now for Nebraska that would have had more immediate success with the players that are on the team? Mora or Kill. Or Patterson, but he would probably laugh at an offer from us. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Banker has a chance to win me over these next couple of weeks. I'm not holding my breath or anything but I'm willing to see what he can do, not that I have a choice in the matter. Prepare to be disappointed or not Hoping for not, but tomorrow will tell us more. If we could keep Illinois to 250 or under I would be thrilled. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I thought Riley was had this incredible eye for talent. Why would he even take this job if the talent level was so poor? Seriously, "poor talent level" is not a good excuse for Riley's performance. Just curious. Who do you purpose, realistically, should be the coach right now for Nebraska that would have had more immediate success with the players that are on the team? Mora or Kill. Or Patterson, but he would probably laugh at an offer from us. Mora, absolutely no interest. Kill, happy at Minny and health concerns. Patterson, absolutely no interest × 2. Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I thought Riley was had this incredible eye for talent. Why would he even take this job if the talent level was so poor? Seriously, "poor talent level" is not a good excuse for Riley's performance. Just curious. Who do you purpose, realistically, should be the coach right now for Nebraska that would have had more immediate success with the players that are on the team? Mora or Kill. Or Patterson, but he would probably laugh at an offer from us. Mora, absolutely no interest. Kill, happy at Minny and health concerns. Patterson, absolutely no interest × 2. I agree about Patterson, but I don't think you're "in the know" enough about the other two to make those statements. Especially Kill. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I thought Riley was had this incredible eye for talent. Why would he even take this job if the talent level was so poor? Seriously, "poor talent level" is not a good excuse for Riley's performance. Just curious. Who do you purpose, realistically, should be the coach right now for Nebraska that would have had more immediate success with the players that are on the team? Mora or Kill. Or Patterson, but he would probably laugh at an offer from us.None of those 3 were realistic 1 Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I thought Riley was had this incredible eye for talent. Why would he even take this job if the talent level was so poor? Seriously, "poor talent level" is not a good excuse for Riley's performance. Just curious. Who do you purpose, realistically, should be the coach right now for Nebraska that would have had more immediate success with the players that are on the team? Mora or Kill. Or Patterson, but he would probably laugh at an offer from us.None of those 3 were realistic If our realistic candidates were Bielema and Riley......... And yes, two of the three were realistic.....though you are free to have your own definition of realistic. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I thought Riley was had this incredible eye for talent. Why would he even take this job if the talent level was so poor? Seriously, "poor talent level" is not a good excuse for Riley's performance. Just curious. Who do you purpose, realistically, should be the coach right now for Nebraska that would have had more immediate success with the players that are on the team? Mora or Kill. Or Patterson, but he would probably laugh at an offer from us.None of those 3 were realistic If our realistic candidates were Bielema and Riley......... And yes, two of the three were realistic.....though you are free to have your own definition of realistic. Mora is not realistic. You don't have to be in the know to know that. I wouldn't have really wanted him anyway. Kill is good, but the shelf life of the hire isn't any better than Riley. Plus he is happy at Minnesota. Patterson shouldn't even be mentioned in a discussion about Nebraska. Never gonna happen. Quote Link to comment
RADAR Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Bielema was never in consideration. Damn glad too He would have been 408X2 Quote Link to comment
RedRex Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I thought Riley was had this incredible eye for talent. Why would he even take this job if the talent level was so poor? Seriously, "poor talent level" is not a good excuse for Riley's performance. Just curious. Who do you purpose, realistically, should be the coach right now for Nebraska that would have had more immediate success with the players that are on the team? Mora or Kill. Or Patterson, but he would probably laugh at an offer from us.None of those 3 were realisticIf our realistic candidates were Bielema and Riley......... And yes, two of the three were realistic.....though you are free to have your own definition of realistic. Mora is not realistic. You don't have to be in the know to know that. I wouldn't have really wanted him anyway. Kill is good, but the shelf life of the hire isn't any better than Riley. Plus he is happy at Minnesota. Patterson shouldn't even be mentioned in a discussion about Nebraska. Never gonna happen. Kyle Whittingham would be my choice. Probably could have got him if we had tried or if he had the same agent as Eichorst like MR does... Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I thought Riley was had this incredible eye for talent. Why would he even take this job if the talent level was so poor? Seriously, "poor talent level" is not a good excuse for Riley's performance. Just curious. Who do you purpose, realistically, should be the coach right now for Nebraska that would have had more immediate success with the players that are on the team? Mora or Kill. Or Patterson, but he would probably laugh at an offer from us.None of those 3 were realisticIf our realistic candidates were Bielema and Riley......... And yes, two of the three were realistic.....though you are free to have your own definition of realistic. Mora is not realistic. You don't have to be in the know to know that. I wouldn't have really wanted him anyway. Kill is good, but the shelf life of the hire isn't any better than Riley. Plus he is happy at Minnesota. Patterson shouldn't even be mentioned in a discussion about Nebraska. Never gonna happen. Kyle Whittingham would be my choice. Probably could have got him if we had tried or if he had the same agent as Eichorst like MR does... Mora leave LA for Lincoln? NopeKill wouldn't leave for a division rival. Among other reasons. Patterson? Please. Wittingham might have been more realistic. Quote Link to comment
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