Valentine declares for the draft

[cm husker]

Here you go: http://m.journalstar.com/sports/huskers/football/2014/preview/men-at-work-vincent-valentine/article_28a473b9-9a37-5efc-a69c-9ce54ac95d9e.html?mobile_touch=true

 

And this is why he's going to go higher than the 6th round:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5o1n-Zrets

[knapplc]

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but if "this isn't 2013 anymore," why are you using film from the 2013 Iowa game, and an article from 2014, as evidence of VV's readiness today?

[cm husker]

Sorry, should have written "it's not spring of 2013 anymore." Point is, VV got the message and picked it up. Significantly.

 

So when people quote tweets from May of 2013 as evidence he's not prepared or possesses the work ethic today, i find Unconvincing.

[knapplc]

The most convincing thing will be where he's drafted, if at all. Hopefully that's higher up and he has a great career. If he isn't drafted, his decision to leave will be open for second-guessing.

[cm husker]

Not really, because, as has been pointed out, there's not a lot of evidence he would move to the top 2 rounds by staying another year, so there's very little upside to staying, regardless of what ends up happening.

[knapplc]

It's clear that's your opinion, but that's the opinion of a guy on a message board, and as we've pointed out, that isn't worth much.

[Waterloohusker26]

Here you go: http://m.journalstar.com/sports/huskers/football/2014/preview/men-at-work-vincent-valentine/article_28a473b9-9a37-5efc-a69c-9ce54ac95d9e.html?mobile_touch=true

 

And this is why he's going to go higher than the 6th round:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5o1n-Zrets

 

And so because of one good game he will go higher?

 

Oh, there was a call into a radio show about his work ethic. Sounds super reliable.

 

http://www.1620thezone.com/SharpandBenningPodcastPage.aspx

 

Jan 11 Seg 5 start listening at the 14 min mark. It's a pretty good listen

[Pedro Guerrero]

Good for him. His goals going into college were probably to get his degree and try to make the NFL. He has his degree so why not go for the next thing. Even if he makes a practice squad and sticks all season he will make over $100,000 ($6600 a week) in a matter of months. He might as well chase that money now instead of later.

[Waterloohusker26]

Good for him. His goals going into college were probably to get his degree and try to make the NFL. He has his degree so why not go for the next thing. Even if he makes a practice squad and sticks all season he will make over $100,000 ($6600 a week) in a matter of months. He might as well chase that money now instead of later.

 

That is if he makes a roster.

 

Here is what the end of a 1st round guy makes in a four year contract $6,767,002 with a signing bonus of $3,301,456

 

Here's a four year contract for someone selected in the 5th round $2,300,000 with a signing bonus of $140,000

 

Lets say he'd sneak up to the 15th pick in draft a four year contract of $9,424,712 with a signing bonus of $5,234,336

 

I'm all for what's doing best for these players but look at what Suh did for himself by staying another year. Not saying these guys are Suh but even to sneak into the first round would be loads more money than being taken in the 4-5th rounds.

 

Now for all of the "what happens if he comes back next year and gets hurts" people. So even if he gets an invite to the combine which he might not, lets say his workout will be at NU's Pro day and by some freak accident he tears his ACL. What would that do for his draft prospects?

[cm husker]

I'd get Suh made a jump. But his was from late 1st to top 5. That's hardly the same situarion as here

[ColoradoHusk]

I'd get Suh made a jump. But his was from late 1st to top 5. That's hardly the same situarion as here

This is what people don't want to comprehend with Valentine. VV was never going to jump into the first round with a great 2016. There are just too many question marks about his injury history and other factors.

 

VV is not Suh. VV has the ceiling of a serviceable DT in a 3-4 scheme. He can keep linemen off LB's and make the occasional tackle for loss. Because of this, VV's draft stock wasn't going to improve that much by coming back to NU. That's why it was probably the best choice for him to leave NU this year.

 

EDIT -- Another point I saw on another thread, is that maybe VV thinks his body on has so many games left in it. If so, why waste 13 of those games in college when he already has his degree?

[Husker Psycho]

Cold hard reality...

 

A player must go pro if there is any chance of success or money to be had for that player in pro football.

 

Injuries are a big part of college football and if they return to college and get permanently injured... there will be no success or money as a player in pro football... for that player... ever.

[BigRedBuster]

Cold hard reality...

 

A player must go pro if there is any chance of success or money to be had for that player in pro football.

 

Injuries are a big part of college football and if they return to college and get permanently injured... there will be no success or money as a player in pro football... for that player... ever.

I agree. However, there have been players who have taken out very large insurance policies for this purpose.

[Husker Psycho]

Cold hard reality - 2

 

College football is a free " farm team " development program for pro football.

 

When developed players leave early for the pro's... that's exactly what's supposed to happen.

[QMany]

 

Cold hard reality...

 

A player must go pro if there is any chance of success or money to be had for that player in pro football.

 

Injuries are a big part of college football and if they return to college and get permanently injured... there will be no success or money as a player in pro football... for that player... ever.

I agree. However, there have been players who have taken out very large insurance policies for this purpose.

The school can pay for them, too.