Clinton Cash/Foundation

[teachercd]

The only reason for that is because he hadn't been in the public eye like her.

If creditors, Suppliers, contractors, employees and wives can't trust him, why should I?

Out of years of business dealings, I have not seen tons of suppliers, contractors, and employees speaking out against him. All the GOP opponents tried this angle and struggled to find a few. Stop trying to dismiss her corruption and imply there is an equivalency.

 

Some of these might be duplicates, because it's 2 in the morning and I didn't actually read through them, this was just the first two pages of a simple google search.

 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/07/19/former-trump-business-associate-speaks-out-about-sexual-assault-allegations-against-trump-media/211704

 

http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-hired-me-as-an-attorneyplease-dont_us_579e52dee4b00e7e269fb30f

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html

 

http://time.com/4296060/trump-the-apprentice-cast-new-york/

 

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

 

http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-campaign-staffer-open-letter-defector

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/29/stephanie-cegielski-ex-trump-strategist-calls-cand/

 

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-barbara-res-trump-tower-radio-4-today-436429

 

http://zap2it.com/2016/05/former-miss-universe-alicia-machado-fat-shamed-donald-trump/

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

 

 

 

Now, here's what I don't understand. You contrasted the two as Trump being the guy who says dumb stuf, and Hillary being the woman who has done a lot of bad things.

 

 

What exactly are these bad things? I'm no Hillary fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I hear all these awful nefarious things referenced a lot yet I haven't actually heard what any of them are, other than lying, which... are you new to politics?

she called the mother of one of the vets that died in benghazi a liar at the miami dem debate, that was pretty scummy. But other than that its just her dishonesty and fakeness that turns off most imo.

No. She didn't.

 

 

"And I certainly cant even imagine the grief that she has for losing her son. But shes wrong. Shes absolutely wrong. I and everybody in the administration, all the people she named the president, the vice president, [then-United Nations Ambassador] Susan Rice we were scrambling to get information that was changing literally by the hour."

You can't be a liar about something you didn't witness. She's calling her misinformed.

 

It'd be like me saying Johnny is a liar for saying Bin Laden didn't poop his pants when he died, assuming Johnny was sitting on his couch at home and not in the room with Bin Laden when he died and I was actually connected via video or phone to the people who killed Bin Laden when it happened.

 

Now this isn't to say Clinton wasn't lying about her being misinformed. That's possible.[/quote

 

Yeah If you didn't witness it you can't lie about it Everyone knows that's the sane thing to think

[Moiraine]

Yeah If you didn't witness it you can't lie about it Everyone knows that's the sane thing to think

 

'Cause that's what I'm saying

 

 

Let me try to be clearer:

Timmy hears from Jimbo that Bonnie lost a tooth yesterday. Timmy tells some people that Bonnie lost a tooth yesterday. Bonnie didn't actually lose a tooth.

 

Is Timmy lying?

 

 

Is Bonnie's brother, who knows she didn't lose a tooth, calling Timmy a liar by saying that Bonnie didn't lose a tooth?

 

 

It's possible Bonnie's brother is lying but he sure as hell isn't calling Timmy a liar.

[teachercd]

 

Yeah If you didn't witness it you can't lie about it Everyone knows that's the sane thing to think

 

'Cause that's what I'm saying

 

 

Let me try to be clearer:

Timmy hears from Jimbo that Bonnie lost a tooth yesterday. Timmy tells some people that Bonnie lost a tooth yesterday. Bonnie didn't actually lose a tooth.

 

Is Timmy lying?

 

 

Is Bonnie's brother, who knows she didn't lose a tooth, calling Timmy a liar by saying that Bonnie didn't lose a tooth?

 

 

It's possible Bonnie's brother is lying but he sure as hell isn't calling Timmy a liar.

I agree… You're saying that it's fair to say that if you don't witness someone's height or weight or tooth loss that you don't actually know for sure the truth. Right?

[Moiraine]

 

 

Yeah If you didn't witness it you can't lie about it Everyone knows that's the sane thing to think

'Cause that's what I'm saying

 

 

Let me try to be clearer:

Timmy hears from Jimbo that Bonnie lost a tooth yesterday. Timmy tells some people that Bonnie lost a tooth yesterday. Bonnie didn't actually lose a tooth.

 

Is Timmy lying?

 

 

Is Bonnie's brother, who knows she didn't lose a tooth, calling Timmy a liar by saying that Bonnie didn't lose a tooth?

 

 

It's possible Bonnie's brother is lying but he sure as hell isn't calling Timmy a liar.

I agree… You're saying that it's fair to say that if you don't witness someone's height or weight or tooth loss that you don't actually know for sure the truth. Right?

 

 

No, that's not what I'm saying.

 

What I'm saying is it doesn't matter if the mother was right or wrong. Clinton wasn't calling her a liar. Clinton may have been lying herself, but she wasn't calling the mother a liar.

[teachercd]

 

 

 

Yeah If you didn't witness it you can't lie about it Everyone knows that's the sane thing to think

 

'Cause that's what I'm saying

 

 

Let me try to be clearer:

Timmy hears from Jimbo that Bonnie lost a tooth yesterday. Timmy tells some people that Bonnie lost a tooth yesterday. Bonnie didn't actually lose a tooth.

 

Is Timmy lying?

 

 

Is Bonnie's brother, who knows she didn't lose a tooth, calling Timmy a liar by saying that Bonnie didn't lose a tooth?

 

 

It's possible Bonnie's brother is lying but he sure as hell isn't calling Timmy a liar.

I agree You're saying that it's fair to say that if you don't witness someone's height or weight or tooth loss that you don't actually know for sure the truth. Right?

No, that's not what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is it doesn't matter if the mother was right or wrong. Clinton wasn't calling her a liar. Clinton may have been lying herself, but she wasn't calling the mother a liar.

Ohhhhh, got it!

[Army_Allen]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only reason for that is because he hadn't been in the public eye like her.

 

If creditors, Suppliers, contractors, employees and wives can't trust him, why should I?

Out of years of business dealings, I have not seen tons of suppliers, contractors, and employees speaking out against him. All the GOP opponents tried this angle and struggled to find a few. Stop trying to dismiss her corruption and imply there is an equivalency.

 

Some of these might be duplicates, because it's 2 in the morning and I didn't actually read through them, this was just the first two pages of a simple google search.

 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/07/19/former-trump-business-associate-speaks-out-about-sexual-assault-allegations-against-trump-media/211704

 

http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-hired-me-as-an-attorneyplease-dont_us_579e52dee4b00e7e269fb30f

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html

 

http://time.com/4296060/trump-the-apprentice-cast-new-york/

 

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

 

http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-campaign-staffer-open-letter-defector

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/29/stephanie-cegielski-ex-trump-strategist-calls-cand/

 

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-barbara-res-trump-tower-radio-4-today-436429

 

http://zap2it.com/2016/05/former-miss-universe-alicia-machado-fat-shamed-donald-trump/

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

 

 

 

Now, here's what I don't understand. You contrasted the two as Trump being the guy who says dumb stuf, and Hillary being the woman who has done a lot of bad things.

 

 

What exactly are these bad things? I'm no Hillary fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I hear all these awful nefarious things referenced a lot yet I haven't actually heard what any of them are, other than lying, which... are you new to politics?

she called the mother of one of the vets that died in benghazi a liar at the miami dem debate, that was pretty scummy. But other than that its just her dishonesty and fakeness that turns off most imo.

No. She didn't.

 

"And I certainly cant even imagine the grief that she has for losing her son. But shes wrong. Shes absolutely wrong. I and everybody in the administration, all the people she named the president, the vice president, [then-United Nations Ambassador] Susan Rice we were scrambling to get information that was changing literally by the hour."

You can't be a liar about something you didn't witness. She's calling her misinformed.

 

It'd be like me saying Johnny is a liar for saying Bin Laden didn't poop his pants when he died, assuming Johnny was sitting on his couch at home and not in the room with Bin Laden when he died and I was actually connected via video or phone to the people who killed Bin Laden when it happened.

 

Now this isn't to say Clinton wasn't lying about her being misinformed. That's possible.

The mother said she wasn't contacted after her sons death though as well I thought. How could she be misinformed on that?

 

Since you're the one claiming Clinton called her a liar, why don't you provide the evidence? I already scrounged around for the above quote. I'm not sure what you're referring to with your reply.

Jesus I'm not attacking you, fix your knickers...

 

Here's the transcript from the question and video in its entirety and it felt at the time like she was told misinformation and not replied to like she was told.

 

 

(APPLAUSE)

 

RAMOS: OK, next question. I want to continue with the issue of trust. Secretary Clinton, on the night of the attacks in Benghazi, you sent an e-mail to your daughter Chelsea...

 

(BOOING)

 

RAMOS: ... saying, that Al Qaida was responsible for the killing of the Americans.

 

(BOOING)

 

RAMOS: However, some of the families claim that you lied to them. To that speed, the mother of the information officer, Chaznea (ph). Let's listen.

 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

 

SMITH: Hillary and Obama and Panetta and Biden and all of -- and Susan Rice, all told me it was a video, when they knew it was not the video. And they said that they would call me and let me know what the outcome was.

 

(END VIDEO CLIP)

 

RAMOS: Secretary Clinton, did you lie to them?

 

CLINTON: You know, look. I feel a great deal of sympathy for the families of the four brave Americans that we lost at Benghazi. And I certainly can't even imagine the grief that she has for losing her son, but she's wrong. She's absolutely wrong.

 

I and everybody in the administration, all the people she named, the president, the vice president, Susan Rice, we were scrambling to get information that was changing, literally by the hour. And when we had information, we made it public. But then sometimes we had to go back and say we have new information that contradicts it.

[knapplc]

So, where in that transcript did she call the mother of the soldier a liar? Here's the next few exchanges in that transcript.

 

Am I missing where she's saying the mother lied?

RAMOS: Secretary Clinton, did you lie to them?

CLINTON: You know, look. I feel a great deal of sympathy for the families of the four brave Americans that we lost at Benghazi. And I certainly can't even imagine the grief that she has for losing her son, but she's wrong. She's absolutely wrong.

I and everybody in the administration, all the people she named, the president, the vice president, Susan Rice, we were scrambling to get information that was changing, literally by the hour. And when we had information, we made it public. But then sometimes we had to go back and say we have new information that contradicts it.

So I testified for 11 hours.

(APPLAUSE)

CLINTON: Anybody who watched that and listened to it knows that I answered every question that I was asked and when it was over the Republicans had to admit they didn't learn anything. Why? Because there had already been one independent investigation. There had been seven or eight congressional investigations, mostly led by Republicans who all reached the same conclusions, that there were lessons to be learned.

And this is not the first time we lost Americans in a terrorist attack. We lost 3,000 people on 9/11. We lost Americans serving in embassies in Tanzania and Kenya when my husband was president. We lost 250 Americans, both military and civilian, when Ronald Reagan was president in Beirut.

And at no other time were those tragedies were they politicized

(APPLAUSE).

CLINTON: Instead people said, let's learn the lessons and save lives. And that's when I did.

(APPLAUSE)

RAMOS: But Secretary Clinton, what they're saying is that -- what the families are saying is that you told your daughter Chelsea one thing and a different thing to them.

CLINTON: Jorge, that makes my point. At the time I e-mailed with my daughter, a terrorist group had taken credit for the attacks on our facility in Benghazi. Within 16, 18 hours, they rescinded taking credit. They did it all on social media. And the video did play a role.

We have captured one of the lead terrorists and he admits it was both a terrorist attack and it was influenced by the video. This was fog of war. This was complicated. The most effective, comprehensive reports and studies demonstrate that.

Look, as I said in the beginning, I deeply regret that we lost four Americans.

RAMOS: Thank you senator.

CLINTON: And I of course sympathize with members of the families who are still, you know, very much grieving.

And I wish that there could be an easy answer at the time, but we learned a lot, and the intelligence kept...

RAMOS: Thank you.

CLINTON: ... improving, and we learned enough to say what we think happened at Benghazi.

RAMOS: You have 30 seconds, Senator.

SANDERS: Well, I'm not going to comment on the Benghazi tragedy, but I will say this. A series of articles in the New York Times talked about Secretary Clinton's role in urging the administration to go forward with regime change, getting rid of Gadhafi in Libya.

Gadhafi was a brutal dictator, there's no question. But one of the differences between the secretary and I is I'm not quite so aggressive with regard to regime change. I voted against the war in Iraq because I had a fear of what would happen the day after.

 

[Moiraine]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only reason for that is because he hadn't been in the public eye like her.

 

If creditors, Suppliers, contractors, employees and wives can't trust him, why should I?

Out of years of business dealings, I have not seen tons of suppliers, contractors, and employees speaking out against him. All the GOP opponents tried this angle and struggled to find a few. Stop trying to dismiss her corruption and imply there is an equivalency.

 

Some of these might be duplicates, because it's 2 in the morning and I didn't actually read through them, this was just the first two pages of a simple google search.

 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/07/19/former-trump-business-associate-speaks-out-about-sexual-assault-allegations-against-trump-media/211704

 

http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-hired-me-as-an-attorneyplease-dont_us_579e52dee4b00e7e269fb30f

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html

 

http://time.com/4296060/trump-the-apprentice-cast-new-york/

 

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

 

http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-campaign-staffer-open-letter-defector

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/29/stephanie-cegielski-ex-trump-strategist-calls-cand/

 

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-barbara-res-trump-tower-radio-4-today-436429

 

http://zap2it.com/2016/05/former-miss-universe-alicia-machado-fat-shamed-donald-trump/

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

 

 

 

Now, here's what I don't understand. You contrasted the two as Trump being the guy who says dumb stuf, and Hillary being the woman who has done a lot of bad things.

 

 

What exactly are these bad things? I'm no Hillary fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I hear all these awful nefarious things referenced a lot yet I haven't actually heard what any of them are, other than lying, which... are you new to politics?

she called the mother of one of the vets that died in benghazi a liar at the miami dem debate, that was pretty scummy. But other than that its just her dishonesty and fakeness that turns off most imo.

No. She didn't.

 

"And I certainly cant even imagine the grief that she has for losing her son. But shes wrong. Shes absolutely wrong. I and everybody in the administration, all the people she named the president, the vice president, [then-United Nations Ambassador] Susan Rice we were scrambling to get information that was changing literally by the hour."

You can't be a liar about something you didn't witness. She's calling her misinformed.

 

It'd be like me saying Johnny is a liar for saying Bin Laden didn't poop his pants when he died, assuming Johnny was sitting on his couch at home and not in the room with Bin Laden when he died and I was actually connected via video or phone to the people who killed Bin Laden when it happened.

 

Now this isn't to say Clinton wasn't lying about her being misinformed. That's possible.

The mother said she wasn't contacted after her sons death though as well I thought. How could she be misinformed on that?

 

Since you're the one claiming Clinton called her a liar, why don't you provide the evidence? I already scrounged around for the above quote. I'm not sure what you're referring to with your reply.

 

(APPLAUSE)

 

RAMOS: OK, next question. I want to continue with the issue of trust. Secretary Clinton, on the night of the attacks in Benghazi, you sent an e-mail to your daughter Chelsea...

 

(BOOING)

 

RAMOS: ... saying, that Al Qaida was responsible for the killing of the Americans.

 

(BOOING)

 

RAMOS: However, some of the families claim that you lied to them. To that speed, the mother of the information officer, Chaznea (ph). Let's listen.

 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

 

SMITH: Hillary and Obama and Panetta and Biden and all of -- and Susan Rice, all told me it was a video, when they knew it was not the video. And they said that they would call me and let me know what the outcome was.

 

(END VIDEO CLIP)

 

RAMOS: Secretary Clinton, did you lie to them?

 

CLINTON: You know, look. I feel a great deal of sympathy for the families of the four brave Americans that we lost at Benghazi. And I certainly can't even imagine the grief that she has for losing her son, but she's wrong. She's absolutely wrong.

 

I and everybody in the administration, all the people she named, the president, the vice president, Susan Rice, we were scrambling to get information that was changing, literally by the hour. And when we had information, we made it public. But then sometimes we had to go back and say we have new information that contradicts it.

 

Jesus I'm not attacking you, fix your knickers...

Here's the transcript from the question and video in its entirety and it felt at the time like she was told misinformation and not replied to like she was told.

 

What is your comment about? I didn't feel attacked, and my reply was perfectly reasonable. Not sure how you got that idea. It's the internet and you misread my tone and instead of giving me the benefit of the doubt you told me to adjust my underwear. Okay then.

 

Onto the post - none of that shows any better than the quote I originally supplied that Clinton was calling her a liar. Again, Clinton could have been lying, but she wasn't calling anyone a liar. It sounds really bad, and catchy, to say Clinton called the mother of a victim of the attack a liar, but that's not what happened.

[Moiraine]

 

So, where in that transcript did she call the mother of the soldier a liar? Here's the next few exchanges in that transcript.

 

Am I missing where she's saying the mother lied?

 

 

You're not finding it because the place where Clinton is accused of calling her a liar is in the quote I originally provided, and it never happened.

[teachercd]

People call it underwear? It's boxers, briefs, boxer-briefs or panties.

[Moiraine]

People call it underwear? It's boxers, briefs, boxer-briefs or panties.

 

I don't like the word panties.

[teachercd]

 

People call it underwear? It's boxers, briefs, boxer-briefs or panties.

 

I don't like the word panties.

I have heard a lot of people say that. Is it just one of those words? I HATE saying swimming trunks. No idea why but it just creeps me out.

[Army_Allen]

 

 

 

So, where in that transcript did she call the mother of the soldier a liar? Here's the next few exchanges in that transcript.

 

Am I missing where she's saying the mother lied?

 

You're not finding it because the place where Clinton is accused of calling her a liar is in the quote I originally provided, and it never happened.

The tone and how she's said the mother was "wrong" felt way more than just saying the mother didn't know. She said the mother was wrong right after the debate lead mentioned the mother saying she would be told new info as it happened. Its just agreeing to disagree on tone and implied meaning.

[Moiraine]

 

 

People call it underwear? It's boxers, briefs, boxer-briefs or panties.

I don't like the word panties.

I have heard a lot of people say that. Is it just one of those words? I HATE saying swimming trunks. No idea why but it just creeps me out.

 

 

Moist. Nipple.

 

(Not together... that's worse)

[Landlord]

Discharge