Clinton Cash/Foundation

[Landlord]

 

The only reason for that is because he hadn't been in the public eye like her.

 

If creditors, Suppliers, contractors, employees and wives can't trust him, why should I?

 

Out of years of business dealings, I have not seen tons of suppliers, contractors, and employees speaking out against him. All the GOP opponents tried this angle and struggled to find a few. Stop trying to dismiss her corruption and imply there is an equivalency.

 

 

 

Some of these might be duplicates, because it's 2 in the morning and I didn't actually read through them, this was just the first two pages of a simple google search.

 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/07/19/former-trump-business-associate-speaks-out-about-sexual-assault-allegations-against-trump-media/211704

 

http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-hired-me-as-an-attorneyplease-dont_us_579e52dee4b00e7e269fb30f

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html

 

http://time.com/4296060/trump-the-apprentice-cast-new-york/

 

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

 

http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-campaign-staffer-open-letter-defector

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/29/stephanie-cegielski-ex-trump-strategist-calls-cand/

 

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-barbara-res-trump-tower-radio-4-today-436429

 

http://zap2it.com/2016/05/former-miss-universe-alicia-machado-fat-shamed-donald-trump/

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

 

 

 

Now, here's what I don't understand. You contrasted the two as Trump being the guy who says dumb stuf, and Hillary being the woman who has done a lot of bad things.

 

 

What exactly are these bad things? I'm no Hillary fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I hear all these awful nefarious things referenced a lot yet I haven't actually heard what any of them are, other than lying, which... are you new to politics?

[Army_Allen]

 

 

The only reason for that is because he hadn't been in the public eye like her.

 

If creditors, Suppliers, contractors, employees and wives can't trust him, why should I?

 

Out of years of business dealings, I have not seen tons of suppliers, contractors, and employees speaking out against him. All the GOP opponents tried this angle and struggled to find a few. Stop trying to dismiss her corruption and imply there is an equivalency.

 

 

 

Some of these might be duplicates, because it's 2 in the morning and I didn't actually read through them, this was just the first two pages of a simple google search.

 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/07/19/former-trump-business-associate-speaks-out-about-sexual-assault-allegations-against-trump-media/211704

 

http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-hired-me-as-an-attorneyplease-dont_us_579e52dee4b00e7e269fb30f

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html

 

http://time.com/4296060/trump-the-apprentice-cast-new-york/

 

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

 

http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-campaign-staffer-open-letter-defector

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/29/stephanie-cegielski-ex-trump-strategist-calls-cand/

 

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-barbara-res-trump-tower-radio-4-today-436429

 

http://zap2it.com/2016/05/former-miss-universe-alicia-machado-fat-shamed-donald-trump/

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

 

 

 

Now, here's what I don't understand. You contrasted the two as Trump being the guy who says dumb stuf, and Hillary being the woman who has done a lot of bad things.

 

 

What exactly are these bad things? I'm no Hillary fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I hear all these awful nefarious things referenced a lot yet I haven't actually heard what any of them are, other than lying, which... are you new to politics?

 

she called the mother of one of the vets that died in benghazi a liar at the miami dem debate, that was pretty scummy. But other than that its just her dishonesty and fakeness that turns off most imo.

[Creighton Duke]

 

 

The only reason for that is because he hadn't been in the public eye like her.

 

If creditors, Suppliers, contractors, employees and wives can't trust him, why should I?

 

Out of years of business dealings, I have not seen tons of suppliers, contractors, and employees speaking out against him. All the GOP opponents tried this angle and struggled to find a few. Stop trying to dismiss her corruption and imply there is an equivalency.

 

 

 

 

Now, here's what I don't understand. You contrasted the two as Trump being the guy who says dumb stuf, and Hillary being the woman who has done a lot of bad things.

 

 

What exactly are these bad things? I'm no Hillary fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I hear all these awful nefarious things referenced a lot yet I haven't actually heard what any of them are, other than lying, which... are you new to politics?

 

Maybe the better question is "are you new to this thread?" A good starting point would be to go back to the top of the page and devote an hour to watching the video posted.

[HuskerNation1]

 

 

As for the Iraq war, I wonder who in the world could have started that one?

Ya, I'm a bit dumbfounded here. Who else would we attribute the Iraq war to?

 

Saying Bush isn't responsible for the Iraq war isn't the same as saying Clinton isn't solely responsible for ISIS getting more powerful.

It's the same thing as saying Bin Laden isn't solely responsible for the attacks on the twin towers.

Notice you used the word "solely" in one example and not the other. I asked the question for a very specific reason. We can argue that nobody is 100% responsible for any decision that goes the wrong way, but I often find some more willing to say that the Hillary/Obama is not accountable for the world being more dangerous and less safe these past 7 years, yet these same people are the ones to place sole blame on Bush for Iraq. Its complete hypocrisy to blame one and not the other.

[Moiraine]

 

 

As for the Iraq war, I wonder who in the world could have started that one?

Ya, I'm a bit dumbfounded here. Who else would we attribute the Iraq war to?

 

Saying Bush isn't responsible for the Iraq war isn't the same as saying Clinton isn't solely responsible for ISIS getting more powerful.

It's the same thing as saying Bin Laden isn't solely responsible for the attacks on the twin towers.

Notice you used the word "solely" in one example and not the other. I asked the question for a very specific reason. We can argue that nobody is 100% responsible for any decision that goes the wrong way, but I often find some more willing to say that the Hillary/Obama is not accountable for the world being more dangerous and less safe these past 7 years, yet these same people are the ones to place sole blame on Bush for Iraq. Its complete hypocrisy to blame one and not the other.

 

 

You're comparing two things that are vastly different. Again, what you're saying is like saying Bin Laden isn't solely responsible for 9/11. Technically you're right, but it's not AT ALL like saying Clinton isn't solely responsible for the rise of ISIS.

 

Edit: Ok I see which part you're talking about with the solely but that is exactly what I meant. I attribute that to the comparison being ridiculous in the first place.

[Moiraine]

 

 

 

The only reason for that is because he hadn't been in the public eye like her.

 

If creditors, Suppliers, contractors, employees and wives can't trust him, why should I?

 

Out of years of business dealings, I have not seen tons of suppliers, contractors, and employees speaking out against him. All the GOP opponents tried this angle and struggled to find a few. Stop trying to dismiss her corruption and imply there is an equivalency.

 

 

 

Some of these might be duplicates, because it's 2 in the morning and I didn't actually read through them, this was just the first two pages of a simple google search.

 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/07/19/former-trump-business-associate-speaks-out-about-sexual-assault-allegations-against-trump-media/211704

 

http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-hired-me-as-an-attorneyplease-dont_us_579e52dee4b00e7e269fb30f

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html

 

http://time.com/4296060/trump-the-apprentice-cast-new-york/

 

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

 

http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-campaign-staffer-open-letter-defector

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/29/stephanie-cegielski-ex-trump-strategist-calls-cand/

 

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-barbara-res-trump-tower-radio-4-today-436429

 

http://zap2it.com/2016/05/former-miss-universe-alicia-machado-fat-shamed-donald-trump/

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

 

 

 

Now, here's what I don't understand. You contrasted the two as Trump being the guy who says dumb stuf, and Hillary being the woman who has done a lot of bad things.

 

 

What exactly are these bad things? I'm no Hillary fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I hear all these awful nefarious things referenced a lot yet I haven't actually heard what any of them are, other than lying, which... are you new to politics?

 

she called the mother of one of the vets that died in benghazi a liar at the miami dem debate, that was pretty scummy. But other than that its just her dishonesty and fakeness that turns off most imo.

 

 

No. She didn't.

 

 

"And I certainly can’t even imagine the grief that she has for losing her son. But she’s wrong. She’s absolutely wrong. I and everybody in the administration, all the people she named — the president, the vice president, [then-United Nations Ambassador] Susan Rice — we were scrambling to get information that was changing literally by the hour."

 

You can't be a liar about something you didn't witness. She's calling her misinformed.

 

It'd be like me saying Johnny is a liar for saying Bin Laden didn't poop his pants when he died, assuming Johnny was sitting on his couch at home and not in the room with Bin Laden when he died and I was actually connected via video or phone to the people who killed Bin Laden when it happened.

 

Now this isn't to say Clinton wasn't lying about her being misinformed. That's possible.

[BigRedBuster]

I never have heard what the town idiot is going to do to beat ISIS.

 

He talks all tough and acts like it's all Clintons fault thy exist. But, what specifically would he have done different and what would he do if elected to defeat them?

[Danny Bateman]

I never have heard what the town idiot is going to do to beat ISIS.

 

He talks all tough and acts like it's all Clintons fault thy exist. But, what specifically would he have done different and what would he do if elected to defeat them?

 

This is a man whose brilliant assessment of what Dubya did to screw up Iraq was that he "didn't take the oil."

 

I've also heard him say we need to "bomb the oil."

 

He truly has the best brain.

[Landlord]

 

 

 

The only reason for that is because he hadn't been in the public eye like her.

 

If creditors, Suppliers, contractors, employees and wives can't trust him, why should I?

 

Out of years of business dealings, I have not seen tons of suppliers, contractors, and employees speaking out against him. All the GOP opponents tried this angle and struggled to find a few. Stop trying to dismiss her corruption and imply there is an equivalency.

 

 

 

 

Now, here's what I don't understand. You contrasted the two as Trump being the guy who says dumb stuf, and Hillary being the woman who has done a lot of bad things.

 

 

What exactly are these bad things? I'm no Hillary fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I hear all these awful nefarious things referenced a lot yet I haven't actually heard what any of them are, other than lying, which... are you new to politics?

 

Maybe the better question is "are you new to this thread?" A good starting point would be to go back to the top of the page and devote an hour to watching the video posted.

 

 

 

You act like I have an hour of free time to watch spooky videos about politicians

[Creighton Duke]

 

 

 

 

The only reason for that is because he hadn't been in the public eye like her.

 

If creditors, Suppliers, contractors, employees and wives can't trust him, why should I?

 

Out of years of business dealings, I have not seen tons of suppliers, contractors, and employees speaking out against him. All the GOP opponents tried this angle and struggled to find a few. Stop trying to dismiss her corruption and imply there is an equivalency.

 

 

 

 

Now, here's what I don't understand. You contrasted the two as Trump being the guy who says dumb stuf, and Hillary being the woman who has done a lot of bad things.

 

 

What exactly are these bad things? I'm no Hillary fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I hear all these awful nefarious things referenced a lot yet I haven't actually heard what any of them are, other than lying, which... are you new to politics?

 

Maybe the better question is "are you new to this thread?" A good starting point would be to go back to the top of the page and devote an hour to watching the video posted.

 

 

 

You act like I have an hour of free time to watch spooky videos about politicians

 

Close to 14k posts...I have my reasons for thinking that you do

[Landlord]

I have a strict "5 minutes or less" rule for my posts. That's why they rarely offer anything insightful.

[Creighton Duke]

I have a strict "5 minutes or less" rule for my posts. That's why they rarely offer anything insightful.

Fair enough. Who really needs that extra 1150 hours anyways??!!

[zoogs]

It's remarkable -- and telling -- that you would think Obama and Clinton shoulder a comparable amount of responsibility for what ISIS has done as Bush does for what the United States did while he was commander-in-chief.

 

You'd have to really just lap up Trump's bile. Straight shot.

[Army_Allen]

 

 

 

 

The only reason for that is because he hadn't been in the public eye like her.

 

If creditors, Suppliers, contractors, employees and wives can't trust him, why should I?

 

Out of years of business dealings, I have not seen tons of suppliers, contractors, and employees speaking out against him. All the GOP opponents tried this angle and struggled to find a few. Stop trying to dismiss her corruption and imply there is an equivalency.

 

 

 

Some of these might be duplicates, because it's 2 in the morning and I didn't actually read through them, this was just the first two pages of a simple google search.

 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/07/19/former-trump-business-associate-speaks-out-about-sexual-assault-allegations-against-trump-media/211704

 

http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-hired-me-as-an-attorneyplease-dont_us_579e52dee4b00e7e269fb30f

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html

 

http://time.com/4296060/trump-the-apprentice-cast-new-york/

 

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

 

http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-campaign-staffer-open-letter-defector

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/29/stephanie-cegielski-ex-trump-strategist-calls-cand/

 

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-barbara-res-trump-tower-radio-4-today-436429

 

http://zap2it.com/2016/05/former-miss-universe-alicia-machado-fat-shamed-donald-trump/

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

 

 

 

Now, here's what I don't understand. You contrasted the two as Trump being the guy who says dumb stuf, and Hillary being the woman who has done a lot of bad things.

 

 

What exactly are these bad things? I'm no Hillary fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I hear all these awful nefarious things referenced a lot yet I haven't actually heard what any of them are, other than lying, which... are you new to politics?

 

she called the mother of one of the vets that died in benghazi a liar at the miami dem debate, that was pretty scummy. But other than that its just her dishonesty and fakeness that turns off most imo.

 

 

No. She didn't.

 

 

"And I certainly can’t even imagine the grief that she has for losing her son. But she’s wrong. She’s absolutely wrong. I and everybody in the administration, all the people she named — the president, the vice president, [then-United Nations Ambassador] Susan Rice — we were scrambling to get information that was changing literally by the hour."

 

You can't be a liar about something you didn't witness. She's calling her misinformed.

 

It'd be like me saying Johnny is a liar for saying Bin Laden didn't poop his pants when he died, assuming Johnny was sitting on his couch at home and not in the room with Bin Laden when he died and I was actually connected via video or phone to the people who killed Bin Laden when it happened.

 

Now this isn't to say Clinton wasn't lying about her being misinformed. That's possible.

 

The mother said she wasn't contacted after her sons death though as well I thought. How could she be misinformed on that?

[Moiraine]

 

 

 

 

 

The only reason for that is because he hadn't been in the public eye like her.

 

If creditors, Suppliers, contractors, employees and wives can't trust him, why should I?

 

Out of years of business dealings, I have not seen tons of suppliers, contractors, and employees speaking out against him. All the GOP opponents tried this angle and struggled to find a few. Stop trying to dismiss her corruption and imply there is an equivalency.

 

 

 

Some of these might be duplicates, because it's 2 in the morning and I didn't actually read through them, this was just the first two pages of a simple google search.

 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/07/19/former-trump-business-associate-speaks-out-about-sexual-assault-allegations-against-trump-media/211704

 

http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-hired-me-as-an-attorneyplease-dont_us_579e52dee4b00e7e269fb30f

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html

 

http://time.com/4296060/trump-the-apprentice-cast-new-york/

 

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

 

http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-campaign-staffer-open-letter-defector

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/29/stephanie-cegielski-ex-trump-strategist-calls-cand/

 

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-barbara-res-trump-tower-radio-4-today-436429

 

http://zap2it.com/2016/05/former-miss-universe-alicia-machado-fat-shamed-donald-trump/

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

 

 

 

Now, here's what I don't understand. You contrasted the two as Trump being the guy who says dumb stuf, and Hillary being the woman who has done a lot of bad things.

 

 

What exactly are these bad things? I'm no Hillary fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I hear all these awful nefarious things referenced a lot yet I haven't actually heard what any of them are, other than lying, which... are you new to politics?

 

she called the mother of one of the vets that died in benghazi a liar at the miami dem debate, that was pretty scummy. But other than that its just her dishonesty and fakeness that turns off most imo.

 

 

No. She didn't.

 

 

"And I certainly can’t even imagine the grief that she has for losing her son. But she’s wrong. She’s absolutely wrong. I and everybody in the administration, all the people she named — the president, the vice president, [then-United Nations Ambassador] Susan Rice — we were scrambling to get information that was changing literally by the hour."

 

You can't be a liar about something you didn't witness. She's calling her misinformed.

 

It'd be like me saying Johnny is a liar for saying Bin Laden didn't poop his pants when he died, assuming Johnny was sitting on his couch at home and not in the room with Bin Laden when he died and I was actually connected via video or phone to the people who killed Bin Laden when it happened.

 

Now this isn't to say Clinton wasn't lying about her being misinformed. That's possible.

 

 

The mother said she wasn't contacted after her sons death though as well I thought. How could she be misinformed on that?

 

 

Since you're the one claiming Clinton called her a liar, why don't you provide the evidence? I already scrounged around for the above quote. I'm not sure what you're referring to with your reply.