Nebraska's Michael Rose-Ivey receives racial backlash for anthem protest

[knapplc]

I was just surprised that through all that rage and anger for this country he could focus his attention anywhere else.

 

Also worth noting--Flood's rant is completely filled with racist comments. I have not said a single racist thing because it turns out I am not racist.

 

This is the unspoken rule it seems:

 

A non-white person says something racist and we're supposed to be sympathetic to that person.

 

A white person says something racist and he/she is just a racist and should be branded the devil.

What "racist" things has Michael Rose-Ivey said?

 

EDIT - I'll add, what "racist" things has Flood said?

[NebraskaShellback]

 

Whiteclay sells alcohol to the members of the Sioux that is just inside Nebraska lines across from the res. White owners will not shut down operation or quit selling to the natives. Tribe leaders have tried to convince lawmakers to get the store owners to not sell beer or liquor but go up against the white man law. Their are other issues I think the Sioux Nation can tell better than I can.

Doing this, of course, would violate the civil rights act; one cannot refuse service based on race or ethnicity.

 

That is correct. The leaders are trying to help their own trapped in that bottle and losing some along the way (passing on).

Edited September 29, 2016 by NebraskaShellback

[BigRedBuster]

I find it interesting the people who have the attitude that these players should....Play the game and leave their sociopolitical stuff at home. You obviously didn't listen to MRI's statement. If not...here is a small quote from it.

 

People assume this is just internet talk but I can tell you from my own experience at this very institution, at various other college campuses within the past four years that racism is still a problem that must be addressed. I can’t tell you the numerous amount of times I’ve heard the “n-word” being shouted at my teammates and I from opposing fans behind our bench.

 

 

I personally find this absolutely disgusting and I don't have a problem with a player protesting racism at a sporting event when sometimes they have to put up with this at that or similar events. If people want them to leave their sociopolitical attitudes at home, maybe the fans should be the ones that start that movement.

 

Also, from the same statement....

 

My freshman year I remember going to a frat party and was told ‘(expletive deleted) weren’t allowed in this house.’ We were escorted out several minutes later by security officers.

 

I'm sure these frat boys were sitting around having a beer cheering on these guys at Northwestern. I have no problem with these players protesting the disgusting actions of these people they have encountered...

 

Oh....but, they should just shut up and play football so we can all sit around and have fun......right???

 

 

Here's a link to the statement if some how you missed it.....LINK

[BigRedBuster]

Also, as for flag burning. This flag represents an amazing amount of good that has happened in the world. It represents creating the greatest country on earth and also fighting against oppression around the world.

 

HOWEVER, it's egotistical to sit here and act like it doesn't also represents something negative for some people. If we are going to celebrate the good it represents, we should also recognize the bad that has happened under it.

 

Thanks for your input Flood.

[NebraskaShellback]

I find it interesting the people who have the attitude that these players should....Play the game and leave their sociopolitical stuff at home. You obviously didn't listen to MRI's statement. If not...here is a small quote from it.

 

People assume this is just internet talk but I can tell you from my own experience at this very institution, at various other college campuses within the past four years that racism is still a problem that must be addressed. I can’t tell you the numerous amount of times I’ve heard the “n-word” being shouted at my teammates and I from opposing fans behind our bench.

 

 

I personally find this absolutely disgusting and I don't have a problem with a player protesting racism at a sporting event when sometimes they have to put up with this at that or similar events. If people want them to leave their sociopolitical attitudes at home, maybe the fans should be the ones that start that movement.

Could it be a African American person shouting that? or can he confirm it was a white person?

[ColoNoCoHusker]

 

 

Whiteclay sells alcohol to the members of the Sioux that is just inside Nebraska lines across from the res. White owners will not shut down operation or quit selling to the natives. Tribe leaders have tried to convince lawmakers to get the store owners to not sell beer or liquor but go up against the white man law. Their are other issues I think the Sioux Nation can tell better than I can.

Doing this, of course, would violate the civil rights act; one cannot refuse service based on race or ethnicity.

 

That is correct. The leaders are trying to help their own trapped in that bottle and losing some along the way (passing on).

 

 

There are multiple liquor stores in Whiteclay, a municipality of 14 people with over $3 million in liquor sales. The liquor stores are 250 feet to 2 miles from the reservation. I live just outside the suburbs and have to go 10 times as far to find a liquor store in a state where non-liquor stores can only sell 3.2 beer.

 

That is the definition of exploitation, plain and simple. In many areas, we do not allow liquor stores, dispensaries, adult content, tobacco sales, etc that close to schools/churches by law (my area is an example). The basic protections provided my kids are denied Native Americans and it's their fault?!? That's hogwash...

 

Alcoholism and drug addition are rampant, nasty diseases. People make their own decisions but let's not pretend institutional poverty isn't racist. Let's also not pretend that enablement of these is not a sin.

 

EDIT - My comments are not directed at Shellback or DBQ comments, btw...

[ColoNoCoHusker]

 

 

I think a big objective of their protest is to just get people to start talking about it and bring awareness too it. This very discussion is already a big step. Not everyone is going to agree, but it is in our minds now. MRI gets a face to face meeting with the governor and a chance to share his story with one of the most important people in the state. Nebraska is not a very diverse state and not many people get to hear the black perspective. You don't have to agree, but at least you are hearing their side. I think this protest has already achieved quite a bit.

 

Start talking about and bring awareness to what? That, like Kaepernick said, the flag represents a country that oppresses black people and people of color? Oppresses. Really?

 

Show me an American policy that puts Americans of any kind at a disadvantage, especially considering we've had a BLACK president for 8 years.

 

Oppression goes beyond policies. There is still a large portion of this country that is racist. I've witnessed it during my 4 years in Nebraska and the rest of my life in St. Louis. This isn't the KKK kind of racism where people go out looking for a black person to lynch. Instead, they don't want to live in neighborhoods that are predominantly black or are even too close to black neighborhoods. They don't want to send their kids to schools that are too "dark". They would rather rent/sell their house to a white family than a black one or existing neighbors put pressure on you to do sell to whites. They don't want public transportation extended out to their white neighborhoods because they would then be connected to "the kind of people" who use public transportation. These are just examples that I have witnessed first hand. Simply having a black president doesn't fix any of this.

 

 

East St Louis vs St Louis is an excellent study in institutional racism and poverty. The last numbers I saw (c. 2006), the per pupil spending in East St Louis were barely over $1,100 (less than half the US avg at the time). Right across the river, it was something like 5 times that.The property values are similarly skewed. It is horribly tragic on so many levels.

[GBRHouston]

 

 

 

I think a big objective of their protest is to just get people to start talking about it and bring awareness too it. This very discussion is already a big step. Not everyone is going to agree, but it is in our minds now. MRI gets a face to face meeting with the governor and a chance to share his story with one of the most important people in the state. Nebraska is not a very diverse state and not many people get to hear the black perspective. You don't have to agree, but at least you are hearing their side. I think this protest has already achieved quite a bit.

 

Start talking about and bring awareness to what? That, like Kaepernick said, the flag represents a country that oppresses black people and people of color? Oppresses. Really?

 

Show me an American policy that puts Americans of any kind at a disadvantage, especially considering we've had a BLACK president for 8 years.

 

Oppression goes beyond policies. There is still a large portion of this country that is racist. I've witnessed it during my 4 years in Nebraska and the rest of my life in St. Louis. This isn't the KKK kind of racism where people go out looking for a black person to lynch. Instead, they don't want to live in neighborhoods that are predominantly black or are even too close to black neighborhoods. They don't want to send their kids to schools that are too "dark". They would rather rent/sell their house to a white family than a black one or existing neighbors put pressure on you to do sell to whites. They don't want public transportation extended out to their white neighborhoods because they would then be connected to "the kind of people" who use public transportation. These are just examples that I have witnessed first hand. Simply having a black president doesn't fix any of this.

 

 

East St Louis vs St Louis is an excellent study in institutional racism and poverty. The last numbers I saw (c. 2006), the per pupil spending in East St Louis were barely over $1,100 (less than half the US avg at the time). Right across the river, it was something like 5 times that.The property values are similarly skewed. It is horribly tragic on so many levels.

 

I hate the poverty card. Sure, there are more blacks in poverty in the US than whites. But they inherited it. It's sad, I know, but that has nothing to do with racism.

[STL Husker]

 

 

 

I think a big objective of their protest is to just get people to start talking about it and bring awareness too it. This very discussion is already a big step. Not everyone is going to agree, but it is in our minds now. MRI gets a face to face meeting with the governor and a chance to share his story with one of the most important people in the state. Nebraska is not a very diverse state and not many people get to hear the black perspective. You don't have to agree, but at least you are hearing their side. I think this protest has already achieved quite a bit.

 

Start talking about and bring awareness to what? That, like Kaepernick said, the flag represents a country that oppresses black people and people of color? Oppresses. Really?

 

Show me an American policy that puts Americans of any kind at a disadvantage, especially considering we've had a BLACK president for 8 years.

 

Oppression goes beyond policies. There is still a large portion of this country that is racist. I've witnessed it during my 4 years in Nebraska and the rest of my life in St. Louis. This isn't the KKK kind of racism where people go out looking for a black person to lynch. Instead, they don't want to live in neighborhoods that are predominantly black or are even too close to black neighborhoods. They don't want to send their kids to schools that are too "dark". They would rather rent/sell their house to a white family than a black one or existing neighbors put pressure on you to do sell to whites. They don't want public transportation extended out to their white neighborhoods because they would then be connected to "the kind of people" who use public transportation. These are just examples that I have witnessed first hand. Simply having a black president doesn't fix any of this.

 

 

East St Louis vs St Louis is an excellent study in institutional racism and poverty. The last numbers I saw (c. 2006), the per pupil spending in East St Louis were barely over $1,100 (less than half the US avg at the time). Right across the river, it was something like 5 times that.The property values are similarly skewed. It is horribly tragic on so many levels.

 

That is a tricky comparison since you are also comparing Missouri to Illinois. But you would find the same trends if you looked at the city vs county (suburbs) or even north county (black) vs west county (white).

[STL Husker]

 

 

 

 

I think a big objective of their protest is to just get people to start talking about it and bring awareness too it. This very discussion is already a big step. Not everyone is going to agree, but it is in our minds now. MRI gets a face to face meeting with the governor and a chance to share his story with one of the most important people in the state. Nebraska is not a very diverse state and not many people get to hear the black perspective. You don't have to agree, but at least you are hearing their side. I think this protest has already achieved quite a bit.

 

Start talking about and bring awareness to what? That, like Kaepernick said, the flag represents a country that oppresses black people and people of color? Oppresses. Really?

 

Show me an American policy that puts Americans of any kind at a disadvantage, especially considering we've had a BLACK president for 8 years.

 

Oppression goes beyond policies. There is still a large portion of this country that is racist. I've witnessed it during my 4 years in Nebraska and the rest of my life in St. Louis. This isn't the KKK kind of racism where people go out looking for a black person to lynch. Instead, they don't want to live in neighborhoods that are predominantly black or are even too close to black neighborhoods. They don't want to send their kids to schools that are too "dark". They would rather rent/sell their house to a white family than a black one or existing neighbors put pressure on you to do sell to whites. They don't want public transportation extended out to their white neighborhoods because they would then be connected to "the kind of people" who use public transportation. These are just examples that I have witnessed first hand. Simply having a black president doesn't fix any of this.

 

 

East St Louis vs St Louis is an excellent study in institutional racism and poverty. The last numbers I saw (c. 2006), the per pupil spending in East St Louis were barely over $1,100 (less than half the US avg at the time). Right across the river, it was something like 5 times that.The property values are similarly skewed. It is horribly tragic on so many levels.

 

I hate the poverty card. Sure, there are more blacks in poverty in the US than whites. But they inherited it. It's sad, I know, but that has nothing to do with racism.

 

That is a very big assumption.

[ColoNoCoHusker]

 

 

 

 

I think a big objective of their protest is to just get people to start talking about it and bring awareness too it. This very discussion is already a big step. Not everyone is going to agree, but it is in our minds now. MRI gets a face to face meeting with the governor and a chance to share his story with one of the most important people in the state. Nebraska is not a very diverse state and not many people get to hear the black perspective. You don't have to agree, but at least you are hearing their side. I think this protest has already achieved quite a bit.

 

Start talking about and bring awareness to what? That, like Kaepernick said, the flag represents a country that oppresses black people and people of color? Oppresses. Really?

 

Show me an American policy that puts Americans of any kind at a disadvantage, especially considering we've had a BLACK president for 8 years.

 

Oppression goes beyond policies. There is still a large portion of this country that is racist. I've witnessed it during my 4 years in Nebraska and the rest of my life in St. Louis. This isn't the KKK kind of racism where people go out looking for a black person to lynch. Instead, they don't want to live in neighborhoods that are predominantly black or are even too close to black neighborhoods. They don't want to send their kids to schools that are too "dark". They would rather rent/sell their house to a white family than a black one or existing neighbors put pressure on you to do sell to whites. They don't want public transportation extended out to their white neighborhoods because they would then be connected to "the kind of people" who use public transportation. These are just examples that I have witnessed first hand. Simply having a black president doesn't fix any of this.

 

 

East St Louis vs St Louis is an excellent study in institutional racism and poverty. The last numbers I saw (c. 2006), the per pupil spending in East St Louis were barely over $1,100 (less than half the US avg at the time). Right across the river, it was something like 5 times that.The property values are similarly skewed. It is horribly tragic on so many levels.

 

I hate the poverty card. Sure, there are more blacks in poverty in the US than whites. But they inherited it. It's sad, I know, but that has nothing to do with racism.

 

 

As a percentage of the whole, there are TON more blacks living in poverty. It's not their fault the were born poor. It's also not their fault the system denies them the same rights and benefits as poor whites.

 

Most any area that is predominantly white will have substantially higher per pupil spending than any area that is predominantly non-white. Easiest way to keep non-whites down is provide sub-standard education.

 

The system is slanted heavily in favor of whites, but yeah, that's not racist, it's just how it's always been /s

[GBRHouston]

 

 

 

 

 

I think a big objective of their protest is to just get people to start talking about it and bring awareness too it. This very discussion is already a big step. Not everyone is going to agree, but it is in our minds now. MRI gets a face to face meeting with the governor and a chance to share his story with one of the most important people in the state. Nebraska is not a very diverse state and not many people get to hear the black perspective. You don't have to agree, but at least you are hearing their side. I think this protest has already achieved quite a bit.

 

Start talking about and bring awareness to what? That, like Kaepernick said, the flag represents a country that oppresses black people and people of color? Oppresses. Really?

 

Show me an American policy that puts Americans of any kind at a disadvantage, especially considering we've had a BLACK president for 8 years.

 

Oppression goes beyond policies. There is still a large portion of this country that is racist. I've witnessed it during my 4 years in Nebraska and the rest of my life in St. Louis. This isn't the KKK kind of racism where people go out looking for a black person to lynch. Instead, they don't want to live in neighborhoods that are predominantly black or are even too close to black neighborhoods. They don't want to send their kids to schools that are too "dark". They would rather rent/sell their house to a white family than a black one or existing neighbors put pressure on you to do sell to whites. They don't want public transportation extended out to their white neighborhoods because they would then be connected to "the kind of people" who use public transportation. These are just examples that I have witnessed first hand. Simply having a black president doesn't fix any of this.

 

 

East St Louis vs St Louis is an excellent study in institutional racism and poverty. The last numbers I saw (c. 2006), the per pupil spending in East St Louis were barely over $1,100 (less than half the US avg at the time). Right across the river, it was something like 5 times that.The property values are similarly skewed. It is horribly tragic on so many levels.

 

I hate the poverty card. Sure, there are more blacks in poverty in the US than whites. But they inherited it. It's sad, I know, but that has nothing to do with racism.

 

 

As a percentage of the whole, there are TON more blacks living in poverty. It's not their fault the were born poor. It's also not their fault the system denies them the same rights and benefits as poor whites.

 

Most any area that is predominantly white will have substantially higher per pupil spending than any area that is predominantly non-white. Easiest way to keep non-whites down is provide sub-standard education.

 

The system is slanted heavily in favor of whites, but yeah, that's not racist, it's just how it's always been /s

 

All US citizens are given equal benefits if they are poor.

[STL Husker]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think a big objective of their protest is to just get people to start talking about it and bring awareness too it. This very discussion is already a big step. Not everyone is going to agree, but it is in our minds now. MRI gets a face to face meeting with the governor and a chance to share his story with one of the most important people in the state. Nebraska is not a very diverse state and not many people get to hear the black perspective. You don't have to agree, but at least you are hearing their side. I think this protest has already achieved quite a bit.

 

Start talking about and bring awareness to what? That, like Kaepernick said, the flag represents a country that oppresses black people and people of color? Oppresses. Really?

 

Show me an American policy that puts Americans of any kind at a disadvantage, especially considering we've had a BLACK president for 8 years.

 

Oppression goes beyond policies. There is still a large portion of this country that is racist. I've witnessed it during my 4 years in Nebraska and the rest of my life in St. Louis. This isn't the KKK kind of racism where people go out looking for a black person to lynch. Instead, they don't want to live in neighborhoods that are predominantly black or are even too close to black neighborhoods. They don't want to send their kids to schools that are too "dark". They would rather rent/sell their house to a white family than a black one or existing neighbors put pressure on you to do sell to whites. They don't want public transportation extended out to their white neighborhoods because they would then be connected to "the kind of people" who use public transportation. These are just examples that I have witnessed first hand. Simply having a black president doesn't fix any of this.

 

 

East St Louis vs St Louis is an excellent study in institutional racism and poverty. The last numbers I saw (c. 2006), the per pupil spending in East St Louis were barely over $1,100 (less than half the US avg at the time). Right across the river, it was something like 5 times that.The property values are similarly skewed. It is horribly tragic on so many levels.

 

I hate the poverty card. Sure, there are more blacks in poverty in the US than whites. But they inherited it. It's sad, I know, but that has nothing to do with racism.

 

 

As a percentage of the whole, there are TON more blacks living in poverty. It's not their fault the were born poor. It's also not their fault the system denies them the same rights and benefits as poor whites.

 

Most any area that is predominantly white will have substantially higher per pupil spending than any area that is predominantly non-white. Easiest way to keep non-whites down is provide sub-standard education.

 

The system is slanted heavily in favor of whites, but yeah, that's not racist, it's just how it's always been /s

 

All US citizens are given equal benefits if they are poor.

 

But white citizens have easier access to these benefits.

[Cdog923]

 

I really didn't get the "How did you find HuskerBoard" comment. Native Americans can't use the internet? I'm certain that's not what that meant, but it kinda sounded like it.

 

 

 

Regarding "White Guilt." That's a copout. I understand that it's easier for some people to whitewash the argument to this degree so they can more easily refute it and dismiss it, but that's not what MRI wants White people to feel.

 

I'm White. I don't feel guilty about anything because I don't persecute minorities. I don't feel that MRI is talking to me, specifically, when he says that "Husker Fans" have called for his ouster, or violence against him, or called him racial epithets. Whites don't represent me, and I don't represent Whites.

 

Maybe if you feel White Guilt... maybe you have a reason to feel that.

I was just surprised that through all that rage and anger for this country he could focus his attention anywhere else.

 

Also worth noting--Flood's rant is completely filled with racist comments. I have not said a single racist thing because it turns out I am not racist.

 

This is the unspoken rule it seems:

 

A non-white person says something racist and we're supposed to be sympathetic to that person.

 

A white person says something racist and he/she is just a racist and should be branded the devil.

 

That's a hell of a "Jump to Conclusions" mat you've got.

[knapplc]

All US citizens are given equal benefits if they are poor.

That's a nice thought and all, as is "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." but we all know that Slavery co-existed with that declaration for another century. In the same way, while we have laws on the books legislating equality, non-Whites are not treated equally to Whites in all manner of ways throughout society.

 

No, it is not legal to discriminate, but let's not pretend this doesn't happen.