Crying and B****ing about Trump

[ColoNoCoHusker]

 

A local hospital that provides abortions has suddenly been booked out through the end of the year. Women are afraid of losing their right to choose or being criminally punished once DT takes office.

 

I'm not doubting that you heard this. But who would book an abortion more than a couple weeks out? That doesn't make sense. :

 

 

My neighbor is a Dr at that hospital. Normally, they scheduled these procedures 5-10 days out. All available openings for the next 6 weeks have been taken the past 2 days. She's been there more than 10 years and has never seen anything like this.

 

These are all women that were already contemplating abortion but the majority have stated their fear of losing the option or being punished pushed them to move on the decision now. It is sad from every angle and it shows the real fear a lot of people have right now. I can only assume that fear makes people act irrationally...

[zoogs]

There's no excuse for what Trump said. It's truly sad that people want to define themselves in defending his words from the criticism they deserve.

 

But you are who you want to be.

[ColoNoCoHusker]

 

 

 

A local hospital that provides abortions has suddenly been booked out through the end of the year. Women are afraid of losing their right to choose or being criminally punished once DT takes office.

I'm not doubting that you heard this. But who would book an abortion more than a couple weeks out? That doesn't make sense. :

That seriously doesn't make sense. So, are these women expecting to get pregnant and need an abortion?

 

I'm assuming they're booking for basic gyn care and routine stuff. That too goes away if PP is defunded, and it's the majority of what they do. Just because it's a location that provides abortions doesn't mean that's all that's being booked there.

 

 

It's one of the only hospitals in the state that schedules this procedure and the hospital draws along the front range which is around ~4.8 million people. I have no idea the actual number of openings they have for this procedure. The staff that do the procedure are borrowed from other practices so there is a practical limit. I assume it is very low relative to any other hospital clinic. The real fear that some people may lose rights here in a couple months is causing people to feel like they have to make certain decisions. I don't know how else to explain it...

[Danny Bateman]

 

 

 

The most disappointing part to me is that you will double down on "Trump's sexual assault comments were merely offensive" and use bad language in songs by famous Black people as your excuse.

 

Weak. And sad.

LMAO, Zoogs please tell me you are joking. Are you really going defend Jay Z's use of the N word, calling women B!tches, ho's as being any different than what Trump said? The point is that both are equally as demeaning to women and by your response you are proving me right and how hypocritical liberals are. Once again, rule number one of a liberal who gets caught being a hypocrite is to call or insinuate the person who caught them is an "ist" or "phoebe." I am assuming that is where you were going by saying "famous Black" people as an excuse for you not getting my point that once again they both are equally demeaning towards women. That is the problem, liberals see things that are not there.

 

The only thing that is weak and sad is how lost you are and how far your world is from reality.

 

 

Jay Z = Music --> Art

 

Trump = Real life, caught on tape

 

Do you see the difference? Because there is a very real one.

 

Yeah, actually, I'm pretty damn offended by our next president admitting to sexual assault. That happens to be one of my buttons.

 

Go after the people promoting violence all you want. That's garbage and it has no place in our politics, just the same as when Trump was promoting it. But maybe you should step back with an open mind and critically examine why large swaths of people are horrified by this instead of calling them crybabies that didn't get their way.

 

 

So if Trump would have sang or rapped "grab them by the pu$$y" then it would have been "art" and it would be ok? That is beyond ridiculous. Demeaning is demeaning no matter how it was said. They are horrified because they are uneducated on the issues and are overreacting just like the right did 8 years ago.

 

 

Listen. You can hate Jay-Z and disagree with his music and lyrics all you want. That's your thing.

 

But we just elected a president who, on a hot mic, admitted to sexually assaulting women, some married, and getting away with it simply because he's famous. I'm not talking about demeaning women, as much as I dislike that. I'm talking about forcing yourselves on them sexually and literally hurting them. There's a BIG difference.

 

"I moved on her like a bitch."

 

If you're gonna support this man, own that. Complaining about Jay-Z and calling liberals hypocrites isn't doing so. And people complaining about this aren't doing so because they're uneducated on the issues. They're no more uneducated on the issues than or the president elect himself, which is to say, hardly at all.

 

You don't get to just sweep this under the rug.

[NUance]

You also have every right to criticize any policy that he enacts that doesn't do what it is intended such as Obamacare was an epic failure. But to go out and protest and say that people need to die, is just plain ignorant.

Ha ha! Where are all the Trump supporters? Seems like you're a bit outnumbered in this thread. (I didn't vote for Trump, btw. But I didn't vote for Hillary either. —So I can poke fun at both sides.)

 

Anyway, I agree with these last couple sentences of your post. Especially the bolded part. +1 for that!

[BigRedBuster]

 

 

 

 

A local hospital that provides abortions has suddenly been booked out through the end of the year. Women are afraid of losing their right to choose or being criminally punished once DT takes office.

I'm not doubting that you heard this. But who would book an abortion more than a couple weeks out? That doesn't make sense. :

That seriously doesn't make sense. So, are these women expecting to get pregnant and need an abortion?

 

I'm assuming they're booking for basic gyn care and routine stuff. That too goes away if PP is defunded, and it's the majority of what they do. Just because it's a location that provides abortions doesn't mean that's all that's being booked there.

 

 

It's one of the only hospitals in the state that schedules this procedure and the hospital draws along the front range which is around ~4.8 million people. I have no idea the actual number of openings they have for this procedure. The staff that do the procedure are borrowed from other practices so there is a practical limit. I assume it is very low relative to any other hospital clinic. The real fear that some people may lose rights here in a couple months is causing people to feel like they have to make certain decisions. I don't know how else to explain it...

 

Which is completely irrational. Trump can not all of a sudden come in and on the first day make abortions illegal or even greatly reduce women's health care. If he does, that will take a while to accomplish.

 

So, all of a sudden calling up the hospital to schedule an abortion or other procedure to make sure it is taken care of before he gets inaugurated is not rational.

[TGHusker]

I really, really like Trump's economic message in regards to trade. I think, at the end of the day, that's what won him the election.

 

However, he has promised to deport 11 million people and ban all Muslims from entering the country. If he actually attempts to implement those policies, there will be revolts in the streets. Violent acts against Muslim and Mexican citizens would soar.

 

I would actually be afraid if he goes through with those policies. Can you imagine being an a Muslim or Mexican in America right now? I fear for them. At some point, basic human rights of others should win over your own economic situation.

 

I truly cant believe we elected this guy. Scary times.

The Bold - it won't happen and it is already off the board. That was one of his initial red meat statements. Now, if he can round up all of the criminals that shouldn't be here - go for it. Prove it and deport them or put them in jail. I don't see him tearing apart families. The congress will play a moderating role there.

[mrandyk]

 

 

 

America elected the leader of the bitching and moaning aimed at Obama. The guy that for years disputed his citizenship and stated Obama was not qualified to be president. There are still people out there making these claims. I do not want to hear anything about how the outcry against Trump is some embarrassing act that the right would never do.

 

That doesn't even touch on the fact that this nation just handed over control to a demagogue with no plans to better the nation. I honestly thought we were better than this. You really screwed the pooch on this one America.

All of his past will come back to haunt him. Every barb he threw about questionable charity, birthplace, money making etc - now his entire past and current business, personal and professional life will be on display, and honestly I think he's starting to realize that this is a pretty big burden. I for one am excited to see some karma.

 

But is that where we should be as people outraged at his presidency? We are all in this together, things will be a hell of a lot worse if we aren't even trying to be united. I want to see Trump go down as the single worst president in history so that we may prevent this from happening again, but at the same time have to live through this crap. I'm torn.

 

 

I am sure that you were one of the first who (rightfully) criticized the crazies on the far right who said the same thing about Obama 8 years ago. Congratulations, you have become what you have been making fun of for the past 8 years. It goes to show that there isn't a lot of difference between the two parties, their hardcore followers, and how they act towards each other.

 

You see no difference between a bunch of bigots claiming a clear US citizen is a foreigner and the current outcry against a man who has denigrated everyone who is not a white male? You really don't, on any level, get it.

[mrandyk]

 

 

 

 

 

A local hospital that provides abortions has suddenly been booked out through the end of the year. Women are afraid of losing their right to choose or being criminally punished once DT takes office.

I'm not doubting that you heard this. But who would book an abortion more than a couple weeks out? That doesn't make sense. :

That seriously doesn't make sense. So, are these women expecting to get pregnant and need an abortion?

 

I'm assuming they're booking for basic gyn care and routine stuff. That too goes away if PP is defunded, and it's the majority of what they do. Just because it's a location that provides abortions doesn't mean that's all that's being booked there.

 

 

It's one of the only hospitals in the state that schedules this procedure and the hospital draws along the front range which is around ~4.8 million people. I have no idea the actual number of openings they have for this procedure. The staff that do the procedure are borrowed from other practices so there is a practical limit. I assume it is very low relative to any other hospital clinic. The real fear that some people may lose rights here in a couple months is causing people to feel like they have to make certain decisions. I don't know how else to explain it...

 

Which is completely irrational. Trump can not all of a sudden come in and on the first day make abortions illegal or even greatly reduce women's health care. If he does, that will take a while to accomplish.

 

So, all of a sudden calling up the hospital to schedule an abortion or other procedure to make sure it is taken care of before he gets inaugurated is not rational.

 

More or less rational than the droves of people buying up guns because Obama was going to take them away? He didn't even claim he was going to take them away. Trump has been pretty clear in his stance on abortions.

[TGHusker]

I wish we could see the posts from 2008. Let's just flip the coin. Everyone, we will get over this. For us conservatives, we survived 8 years of Obama. If Trump over reaches the electorate has a way of correcting things. Obama and his super majority in Congress over reached in 2008-2010. Therefore the voters in each election cycle have increased majorities of governors, state legislatures, and flipped the House and Senate in response to the over reached.

 

As Obama famously, or infamously stated "Elections have Consequences". Thus we can all move to the town of Truth and Consequences, NM or we can realize that the great historical cycle of 'What goes around, Comes Around' has just cycled around again. Cry, mourn, protest, complain, and plan - it is all ok. The sun will come back up and in 4 years we'll repeat the cycle and the nation will still be standing. We'll survive your worse fears. Trump will enact policies you won't like but he will most likely end up being more moderate that the fears would have you believe. Sitting in the WH tends to remove some of the extreme edges when you become president of all Americans.

 

He is already acting more presidential and he and Obama had a good meeting which is a good sign.

[Count 'Bility]

They threw their little tantrum. Got their attention. Now it's time to get back to work.

 

 

Oh wait. n/m.

 

 

 

Ooohhhhhh. that's why theyre so upset. They know the teat's comin out.

[Danny Bateman]

The gun analogy is a rather good one.

 

Also, as someone else mentioned, are we sure all these appointments are actually for abortions?

 

Bad things happened when Mike Pence put his spin on healthcare in Indiana. Like, HIV epidemic bad things. Preventative care, STI testing, and other women's procedures are very important.

[Danny Bateman]

I wish we could see the posts from 2008. Let's just flip the coin. Everyone, we will get over this. For us conservatives, we survived 8 years of Obama. If Trump over reaches the electorate has a way of correcting things. Obama and his super majority in Congress over reached in 2008-2010. Therefore the voters in each election cycle have increased majorities of governors, state legislatures, and flipped the House and Senate in response to the over reached.

 

As Obama famously, or infamously stated "Elections have Consequences". Thus we can all move to the town of Truth and Consequences, NM or we can realize that the great historical cycle of 'What goes around, Comes Around' has just cycled around again. Cry, mourn, protest, complain, and plan - it is all ok. The sun will come back up and in 4 years we'll repeat the cycle and the nation will still be standing. We'll survive your worse fears. Trump will enact policies you won't like but he will most likely end up being more moderate that the fears would have you believe. Sitting in the WH tends to remove some of the extreme edges when you become president of all Americans.

 

He is already acting more presidential and he and Obama had a good meeting which is a good sign.

 

I disagree about the bolded. I think we'd like to think that, but as I heard on a podcast the other day, "Being in the White House makes you more of who you already are." In other words, your true colors come out. At this point, the thought of that isn't a good one, because Trump has proven time and time again to be a thin-skinned, narcissistic, churlish, ignorant oaf. But I will, as you've said, hope for the best.

 

I'm curious to see what happens when he actually has to do something difficult and make hard decisions, once he's done with his victory lap.

[BigRedBuster]

 

 

 

 

 

 

A local hospital that provides abortions has suddenly been booked out through the end of the year. Women are afraid of losing their right to choose or being criminally punished once DT takes office.

I'm not doubting that you heard this. But who would book an abortion more than a couple weeks out? That doesn't make sense. :

That seriously doesn't make sense. So, are these women expecting to get pregnant and need an abortion?

 

I'm assuming they're booking for basic gyn care and routine stuff. That too goes away if PP is defunded, and it's the majority of what they do. Just because it's a location that provides abortions doesn't mean that's all that's being booked there.

 

 

It's one of the only hospitals in the state that schedules this procedure and the hospital draws along the front range which is around ~4.8 million people. I have no idea the actual number of openings they have for this procedure. The staff that do the procedure are borrowed from other practices so there is a practical limit. I assume it is very low relative to any other hospital clinic. The real fear that some people may lose rights here in a couple months is causing people to feel like they have to make certain decisions. I don't know how else to explain it...

 

Which is completely irrational. Trump can not all of a sudden come in and on the first day make abortions illegal or even greatly reduce women's health care. If he does, that will take a while to accomplish.

 

So, all of a sudden calling up the hospital to schedule an abortion or other procedure to make sure it is taken care of before he gets inaugurated is not rational.

 

More or less rational than the droves of people buying up guns because Obama was going to take them away? He didn't even claim he was going to take them away. Trump has been pretty clear in his stance on abortions.

 

About the same.

[TGHusker]

Oh, by the way, as I predicted. riots are occurring spurred on by the left wing causes and financiers like Soros after they loose an election - Because that is what they do ( I think that should be on one of those Geico commercials).

 

There were no riots by conservatives after the 2008 election. Disappointment yes. But we all knew we had presented a poor ticket that barely put up resistance to Obama in the debates. Eventually the Tea Party movement sprung up in response to both the GWB spending (bank bailouts) and the Obama spending (stimulus and ACA). It was not a response to the election as it was well after Obama took office.