Archy1221 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: 2 hours ago, JJ Husker said: Really, all the evidence you need to prove your point is that it's very clear to anyone whose paying attention that Trump loved the insurrection, supports it, was upset that ti didn't succeed and is upset that people are getting indicted and thrown in prison for doing it. 65% of Republicans say loyalty to Trump is important. LINK Quite a bit less than 65% are voting for Trump here https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-11-14/desantis-beats-trump-in-hypothetical-primary-matchups-poll 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 29 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: Quite a bit less than 65% are voting for Trump here https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-11-14/desantis-beats-trump-in-hypothetical-primary-matchups-poll That's not what I said, nor the article I linked said. It says that 65% say the party needs to show loyalty to the man who started, motivated and still supports the insurrection. 3 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 2 hours ago, JJ Husker said: Sure, there are some republicans who didn’t support it. As far as elected R representatives and Senators I could name only about 3 But not too busy to engage in dishonest discussion and make insanely unfoundedclaims? 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Just now, Archy1221 said: But not too busy to engage in dishonest discussion and make insanely unfoundedclaims? Come on...don't be that hard on yourself. 2 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Come on...don't be that hard on yourself. Ok? 1 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Archy1221 said: Quite a bit less than 65% are voting for Trump here https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-11-14/desantis-beats-trump-in-hypothetical-primary-matchups-poll Despite being an abomination of a human being, Donald Trump still enjoys a 79% approval rating among Republicans. For a variety of reasons, many Republican voters may want to move onto another candidate, including the younger, more articulate Ron DeSantis, who has adopted most of Trump's positions and red meat messaging. The GOP midterms were not about pro-Trump vs. anti-Trump: the debates were about which candidate loved Donald Trump the most. No viable candidate openly disavowed him. Liz Cheney would have been reelected forever in Wyoming had she not. So we're looking at a case of "I voted for Trump twice, and I will vote for him again, but he's pretty old and increasingly batty and it might be nice to have someone different up there, as long as he says all the thing's Trump's been saying." Sound like anyone you know? Even so, Trump currently has a 17% lead over DeSantis nationwide, rather than the four states cited in your link. Fun fact: when registered Republicans were asked to name their preferred 2024 candidate without being given a list of options, Donald Trump, Jr. came in third, ahead of Mike Pence. And in a simpler time, Mike Pence would be considered the far right wing of the party. 2 2 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: But not too busy to engage in dishonest discussion and make insanely unfoundedclaims? Speaking of "too busy" you seem to have skipped the post that dismembered every feeble dodge you have on the subject. 2 2 Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: But not too busy to engage in dishonest discussion and make insanely unfoundedclaims? So are you claiming there is significantly more than 3? Or are you under the under the delusion that those 3 substantiate the claims you have made? I’ll need names and quotes and a voting track record for any R besides Cheney and Kinzinger and Romney who you want to claim has been opposed to Trump and the insurrection. Saying one thing but doing another won’t cut it. It would also help immensely if it was somebody the R voters didn’t reject by immediately voting them out of office for speaking or acting against the insurrection. Honestly IDK of any others. There are probably another few that I am unaware….but damn few. 1 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: Even so, Trump currently has a 17% lead over DeSantis nationwide, rather than the four states cited in your link. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/desantis-is-polling-well-against-trump-as-long-as-no-one-else-runs/amp/ POLLSTER/SPONSOR DATES DESANTIS % TRUMP % YouGov Nov. 9-11 42% 35% Léger/Association for Canadian Studies Nov. 11-13 45 43 Quinnipiac Nov. 16-20 45 43 Marquette Law School Nov. 15-22 60 40 Premise Nov. 19-20 49 51 Fabrizio-Impact/Wall Street Journal Dec. 3-7 52 38 Suffolk/USA Today Dec. 7-11 56 33 McLaughlin Dec. 9-14 36 58 Morning Consult Dec. 10-14 45 44 Echelon Insights Dec. 12-14 46 47 Harris/Harvard CAPS Dec. 14-15 52 48 YouGov/Yahoo News Dec. 15-19 45 43 YouGov/The Economist Dec. 17-20 48 40 Average 48 43 1 Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/desantis-is-polling-well-against-trump-as-long-as-no-one-else-runs/amp/ POLLSTER/SPONSOR DATES DESANTIS % TRUMP % YouGov Nov. 9-11 42% 35% Léger/Association for Canadian Studies Nov. 11-13 45 43 Quinnipiac Nov. 16-20 45 43 Marquette Law School Nov. 15-22 60 40 Premise Nov. 19-20 49 51 Fabrizio-Impact/Wall Street Journal Dec. 3-7 52 38 Suffolk/USA Today Dec. 7-11 56 33 McLaughlin Dec. 9-14 36 58 Morning Consult Dec. 10-14 45 44 Echelon Insights Dec. 12-14 46 47 Harris/Harvard CAPS Dec. 14-15 52 48 YouGov/Yahoo News Dec. 15-19 45 43 YouGov/The Economist Dec. 17-20 48 40 Average 48 43 So the polling is 88% to 100% Trump or Trump Lite. By golly maybe your party is coming around 3 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 38 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: I love your use of the "I refuse to look" emoji. 2 Link to comment
teachercd Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: Come on...don't be that hard on yourself. What is the joke? What is the dirtiest thing ever said on TV? "Ward, you were a little hard on the beaver last night" 1 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Just now, teachercd said: What is the joke? What is the dirtiest thing ever said on TV? "Ward, you were a little hard on the beaver last night" I love that joke. Did she ever really have that line in the show? Link to comment
teachercd Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said: I love that joke. Did she ever really have that line in the show? Good question, I don't know. I bet if she didn't that there was something CLOSE to that. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, teachercd said: Good question, I don't know. I bet if she didn't that there was something CLOSE to that. Pretty bad edit. But, she was actually pretty dang hot. 1 1 Link to comment
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