The 2020 Presidential Election - Convention & General Election

[knapplc]

I mean... this is the guy Biden has to beat. I think a majority of Americans, when faced with this guy at the poll, will choose the Dem nominee.

 

What a tool.

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

12 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

Anecdotally, virtually all my Dem friends and 100% of my wives voted for Joe Biden or Elizabeth Warren.

Umm...how many wives do you have?

[Guy Chamberlin]

Do you think the Hunter Biden investigation happened because Donald Trump was afraid of facing Joe Biden?  Or because it was the perfect deflection from the Mueller Report which had just come out?  He wouldn't have gone to those lengths for a minor candidate or rank & file Dem, but if the nepotism had involved Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Shumer, Adam Schiff, Barack Obama,  or any other name brand enemy, you'd still have Rudy Guliani poking around the Ukraine. Trump didn't fear Joe Biden. He just saw a sitting duck.

 

That Hunter Biden investigation resulted in the impeachment of Donald Trump. Do you think the Trump campaign learned it's lesson?  Or are they already doubling down on Hunter Biden? Of course they are. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/05/us/politics/biden-trump-burisma-investigation.html

 

10 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Umm...how many wives do you have?

 

Just one.

 

That I know of. 

[TGHusker]

Trump - such a small guy he has to rebuke a nurse.  Then he goes on a rant about not having any PPE from the previous admin. 

[knapplc]

1 minute ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

Do you think the Hunter Biden investigation happened because Donald Trump was afraid of facing Joe Biden?  Or because it was the perfect deflection from the Mueller Report which had just come out?

 

Both, obviously.

[RedDenver]

45 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

I conceded that you don't think Trump should be scared of Biden, that's fine. But you can't project that onto Trump, he has already proven through his actions, he is indeed scared of Biden. 

You say others can't project onto Trump, and then finish the sentence by projecting onto Trump.

[knapplc]

14 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:

(gaffes, career pathological liar, hair sniffing, improper touching, harassment claims, Hunter Biden, etc.)

 

Most of America doesn't think these are issues. These things have been known for years and he still won the Dem nomination pretty handily.

[RedDenver]

7 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

Most of America doesn't think these are issues. These things have been known for years and he still won the Dem nomination pretty handily.

The Dems treatment their candidate mirrors the Repubs treatment of theirs. Strong indictment of our current political system.

[FrantzHardySwag]

18 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

You say others can't project onto Trump, and then finish the sentence by projecting onto Trump.

No I'm using the evidence of Trump's actions to justify my position. Don't you see the difference? Here's some more evidence for you:

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/470775-juan-williams-trumps-ukraine-scandal-rooted-in-fear-of-biden

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-gop-get-2020-match-they-clearly-did-not-want-n1179886

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/01/politics/joe-biden-donald-trump-fire-fighters-union-iaff-tweets/index.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/trumps-big-gamble-on-biden/606394/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/03/03/msnbcs_nicole_wallace_trump_so_terrified_of_biden_he_soiled_his_reputation_and_the_family_name.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/donald-trump-is-terrified-of-facing-joe-biden-stra/

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/05/donald-trump-joe-biden-fox-news

 

"A pro-Trump super PAC launched anti-Biden advertising ahead of the Nevada caucuses, too.

How many other Democratic presidential hopefuls were on the receiving end of GOP attack ads? None. There was an enormous field of potential targets, but Republicans focused entirely on one potential rival.

It was as subtle as a sledgehammer: the president's allies didn't want Joe Biden to win the Democratic nomination.

To be sure, there's been ample discussion, especially on the left, about whether GOP assumptions about the Delaware Democrat are correct. What's far less debatable, however, is the palpable, months-long fear in Republican circles about who they didn't want to face in the general election.

The anxiety was especially acute at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. The illegal extortion scheme that led to Donald Trump's impeachment was an extraordinary scandal, but let's not forget that at its core, the president hoped to pressure a foreign country to dig up dirt on Biden -- leaving little doubt that the incumbent president was worried about facing him in a fair fight."

 

[knapplc]

Just now, RedDenver said:

The Dems treatment their candidate mirrors the Repubs treatment of theirs. Strong indictment of our current political system.

 

OR most people recognize these are trumped-up issues for a man with a decades-long career full of goodwill.

 

Whatever you want to think of Biden politically, he's no monster. Equating him & Trump's Republican party is a miss.

[RedDenver]

4 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

No I'm using the evidence of Trump's actions to justify my position. Don't you see the difference? Here's some more evidence for you:

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/470775-juan-williams-trumps-ukraine-scandal-rooted-in-fear-of-biden

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-gop-get-2020-match-they-clearly-did-not-want-n1179886

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/01/politics/joe-biden-donald-trump-fire-fighters-union-iaff-tweets/index.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/trumps-big-gamble-on-biden/606394/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/03/03/msnbcs_nicole_wallace_trump_so_terrified_of_biden_he_soiled_his_reputation_and_the_family_name.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/donald-trump-is-terrified-of-facing-joe-biden-stra/

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/05/donald-trump-joe-biden-fox-news

 

"A pro-Trump super PAC launched anti-Biden advertising ahead of the Nevada caucuses, too.

How many other Democratic presidential hopefuls were on the receiving end of GOP attack ads? None. There was an enormous field of potential targets, but Republicans focused entirely on one potential rival.

It was as subtle as a sledgehammer: the president's allies didn't want Joe Biden to win the Democratic nomination.

To be sure, there's been ample discussion, especially on the left, about whether GOP assumptions about the Delaware Democrat are correct. What's far less debatable, however, is the palpable, months-long fear in Republican circles about who they didn't want to face in the general election.

The anxiety was especially acute at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. The illegal extortion scheme that led to Donald Trump's impeachment was an extraordinary scandal, but let's not forget that at its core, the president hoped to pressure a foreign country to dig up dirt on Biden -- leaving little doubt that the incumbent president was worried about facing him in a fair fight."

 

You literally told people not to do something that you did within the same sentence.

 

Other people use evidence to justify their position too. But that's beside the point because according to you they can't project onto Trump but you can. Both the original statement and then the defense of that statement are laughable.

[RedDenver]

9 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

OR most people recognize these are trumped-up issues for a man with a decades-long career full of goodwill.

 

Whatever you want to think of Biden politically, he's no monster. Equating him & Trump's Republican party is a miss.

You said Dem voters don't think "gaffes, career pathological liar, hair sniffing, improper touching, harassment claims, Hunter Biden, etc." are issues. Not caring about issues with their own candidate is also what Repub voters do. I'm saying the voters in each party mirror each other in that way.

 

It has nothing to do with who is or isn't a monster or who is better or worse.

[Notre Dame Joe]

14 hours ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

Has someone here said they don't think there should be an investigation? I'm really asking, since I haven't read every post. I haven't seen one that says that. People saying they don't believe her for reasons A, B, and C is not the same as them saying they don't think it should be looked into.

 

You're going to feel this way regardless - Biden can't be proven guilty of this, just like Trump can't been proven guilty of the accusations against him, nor Clinton against him.

 

We don't have to talk about "should be" because there won't be an investigation.  Washington DC closely investigates the slightly anti-Washington party, regardless of the absurdity.  The only scrutiny Biden will face will come from scripted media and ultimately the voters.

[knapplc]

8 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

You said Dem voters don't think "gaffes, career pathological liar, hair sniffing, improper touching, harassment claims, Hunter Biden, etc." are issues. Not caring about issues with their own candidate is also what Repub voters do. I'm saying the voters in each party mirror each other in that way.

 

It has nothing to do with who is or isn't a monster or who is better or worse.

 

The things Republicans are forgiving their candidates for are not the same thing as what Democrats overlook. Equating them is a miss.

[RedDenver]

Just now, knapplc said:

 

The things Republicans are forgiving their candidates for are not the same thing as what Democrats overlook. Equating them is a miss.

You're using the word "equating" not me. Are you honestly arguing that Repubs don't overlook issues with their own candidates? Or are you arguing against your own post where you said Dems do that?