22 - 9 - 58%

[BigRedBuster]

This is a question discussed on the radio this morning.

 

I think they got these numbers because those were Thorson's numbers from last year and people think he's a good QB.

 

But, the question is, would you be happy if those were Lee's numbers this season?

[teachercd]

I think the 58% would be a little bit of an issue but I don't think the rest is all that bad.

[Mavric]

I don't think our offense would be that good if those are the numbers.

 

TA as a Soph - 22 TDs, 12 INTs, 53.3%, 2695 yards

2016 Thorson - 22 TDs, 9 INTs, 58.6%, 3182 yards

[ColoradoHusk]

I think Thorson's numbers are that "low" because of the style of offense that Fitzgerald prefers to play.  You know NW is going to be more conservative and defense oriented than most teams.  That said, I don't think Thorson is a great QB.  He's only getting a lot of press because he's a returning QB for NW.

 

If Diaco is able to improve the Blackshirts D significantly, the O-line improves (which improves the RB run game), and Langsdorf/Riley/Lee isn't forced to throw the ball 40-45 times a game, then those would be decent numbers for Lee.

 

I don't think stats like this can be looked in a vacuum.

[Cdog923]

This was on 1620 this morning. 

 

The completion % needs to be higher, but I would be alright with that TD to INT ratio, as long as we have at least 20 rushing TDs. 

[BigRedBuster]

For me, these numbers are right on the border line.  If you bump it to 22 9 and 60%, it looks much different even though that could be just one more completion per game. (depending on attempts).

 

The thing that I keep in mind is, if we had these numbers, I think it opens up our running game more.

[ColoradoHusk]

I think Yards Per Attempt and Yards Per Completion are more effective numbers to look at, along with completion %.

 

Thorson's 2016 YPA and YPC were even worse than Armstrong's numbers were in 2016.  To me, that's where NU should show improvement with Lee.

[Cdog923]

12 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

I think Yards Per Attempt and Yards Per Completion are more effective numbers to look at, along with completion %.

 

Thorson's 2016 YPA and YPC were even worse than Armstrong's numbers were in 2016.  To me, that's where NU should show improvement with Lee.

 

The afternoon show put Lee's YPA at 7.7, if I remember right. 

[Mavric]

Just FYI, this whole discussion started with Sam McKewon's article that he posted on Twitter and Benning replied asking why McKewon had Thorson as the top QB among the B1G West contenders.

[BigRedBuster]

1 minute ago, Mavric said:

Just FYI, this whole discussion started with Sam McKewon's article that he posted on Twitter and Benning replied asking why McKewon had Thorson as the top QB among the B1G West contenders.

Thanks.....I got in on the discussion towards the end so I didn't hear how it got started.

[huskerfan92]

Don't get the hype with Thorson. He's an okay QB, but was aided a lot last year by Austin Carr. Northwestern offense is going to miss him this year. 

[BIG ERN]

Tommy Armstrong:

*2016	Nebraska	Big Ten	SR	QB	11	151	294	51.4	2180	7.4	7.1	14	8	123.9

 

Clayton Thorson:

*2016	Northwestern	Big Ten	SO	QB	13	280	478	58.6	3182	6.7	6.7	22	9	125.9

 

If Tanner Lee threw for 1,002 more yards, had 8 more TD's, 7% better completion percentage, and only one more INT than our numbers last year...I'd be okay with that. I think our run game will be much better this year to also help offset that. Just really hope that people aren't expecting him to come in and throw 65% 30 TD and 5 INT this season. 

[Mavric]

If he threw for 1000 more yards in the same 11 games that TA played, that would be something.  But Thorson's stats are over 13 games.

[BIG ERN]

9 minutes ago, Mavric said:

If he threw for 1000 more yards in the same 11 games that TA played, that would be something.  But Thorson's stats are over 13 games.

Fair enough. So, 600 more yards if you go by averages. But IMO to look at stats in CFB is very hard to do. So many different things go into those numbers. Style of offense, tempo, how good your defense is, your strength of schedule. 

 

B10 games only Armstrong was 50.2% (lowest in the conference) 7 TD 7 INT

[StPaulHusker]

What is the running back stats during this time?  Thorson had those numbers with arguably the best RB in the West playing on the same team.

 

I'm not happy with Lee at those numbers if our RB's aren't getting the job done.