45timesbetterthanemptysuit Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 6 hours ago, RedDenver said: I think this is where you'll find the Trump non-supporters on the other side of the fence (at least me anyway). IMO, Trump's constant attacks on and lies about the press are an attack on the 1st amendment, which is more serious than anything Obama did. Trump also talks about silencing his opposition, which is another attack on the 1st Amendment. Also Trump's attacks on judges are of graven concern because they erode the separation of the judicial branch from the executive branch. It's disconcerting to me that you can so easily dismiss Trump's lies as minor. Let’s wait until he threatens to arrest the press lest they give up their sources, taps the phones in the press room and hacks reporters computers first Link to comment
commando Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 27 minutes ago, 45timesbetterthanemptysuit said: Let’s wait until he threatens to arrest the press lest they give up their sources, taps the phones in the press room and hacks reporters computers first when he has wrested that much power away and he can arrest the journalist and opposition party members...it will already be too late. but you have bought into it so you don't care. 2 Link to comment
45timesbetterthanemptysuit Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, commando said: when he has wrested that much power away and he can arrest the journalist and opposition party members...it will already be too late. but you have bought into it so you don't care. Well I guess it might be a rebalance then. After all Obama did that. Link to comment
commando Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 minute ago, 45timesbetterthanemptysuit said: Well I guess it might be a rebalance then. After all Obama did that. riiigghhhhtttt. all i need to hear from you. Link to comment
45timesbetterthanemptysuit Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, commando said: riiigghhhhtttt. all i need to hear from you. Obama prosecuted 9 cases vs. 3 by all previous combined ill have ave to check out the board search function later tonight! I bet there were 20-30 pages of blistering criticism regarding that assault on the 1st amendment! Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 It's too easy to poke holes in these claims to take anything this troll says seriously. Trump threatens the press Quote Trump threatens to weaken First Amendment protections for reporters “I love free press. I think it’s great,” Trump said Saturday on Fox News Channel, before quickly adding, “We ought to open up the libel laws, and I’m going to do that.” The changes envisioned by the celebrity businessman turned Republican front-runner would mean that “when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money,” he said at a rally Friday in Fort Worth, Texas. Trump threatens to jail opposition party members Quote ‘Lock Her Up’ Becomes More Than a Slogan Democrats vividly recall Mr. Trump on the campaign trail vowing to prosecute Mrs. Clinton if he won. “It was alarming enough to chant ‘lock her up’ at a campaign rally,” said Brian Fallon, who was Mrs. Clinton’s campaign spokesman. “It is another thing entirely to try to weaponize the Justice Department in order to actually carry it out.” 1 Link to comment
45timesbetterthanemptysuit Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Perhaps he can start by using the DOJ to secretly seize the AP’s phone records? no no intrusion into the 1st here! Certainly not the 4th or the 14th! Link to comment
45timesbetterthanemptysuit Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, knapplc said: It's too easy to poke holes in these claims to take anything this troll says seriously. Trump threatens the press Trump threatens to jail opposition party members Good choice to ignore the abuses of the Obama administration. You know, the things he actually did! As I posted with links! Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, 45timesbetterthanemptysuit said: Good choice to ignore the abuses of the Obama administration. You know, the things he actually did! As I posted with links! Simply responding to this false claim that we would have to wait for Trump to do these things: 2 hours ago, 45timesbetterthanemptysuit said: Let’s wait until he threatens to arrest the press lest they give up their sources, taps the phones in the press room and hacks reporters computers first He has, a ten-second google search shows that, and your false pretenses are too easily exposed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment
45timesbetterthanemptysuit Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, knapplc said: Simply responding to this false claim that we would have to wait for Trump to do these things: He has, a ten-second google search shows that, and your false pretenses are too easily exposed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ No he hasn’t. People claim that he threatened that, perhaps he did. You conveniently ignore that Obama actually did do those things. But he was the messiah so it’s all good! Link to where our President Donald Trump has actually charged anyone. You can’t. I posted links where Obama actually did. Your criticism of President Donald Trump seems disingenuous in light of the lack of concern for Obama actually doing what you are accusing President Trump of threatening to do Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, 45timesbetterthanemptysuit said: Well I guess it might be a rebalance then. After all Obama did that. Here's something I don't get. Anytime I am in a conversation with a Trump supporter and I bring up things I don't like about him, they always say..."Well, Hillary did that too...or....Obama did that too". Umm....As someone who didn't support either of those two.....I thought we wanted something better. I thought we wanted a Republican President who supported the military, supported law enforcement, didn't lie to the American people, didn't aid foreign enemies, didn't molest women, didn't have sexual scandals.... and didn't make policy decisions based on his or her own monetary gain.....oh yeah....and golf less. But...for some reason, Republicans LOVE a guy who does all of that. Edited February 2, 2018 by BigRedBuster 2 Link to comment
commando Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Here's something I don't get. Anytime I am in a conversation with a Trump supporter and I bring up things I don't like about him, they always say..."Well, Hillary did that too...or....Obama did that too". Umm....As someone who didn't support either of those two.....I thought we wanted something better. I thought we wanted a Republican President who supported the military, supported law enforcement, didn't lie to the American people, didn't molest women, didn't have sexual scandals.... and didn't make policy decisions based on his or her own monetary gain.....oh yeah....and golf less. But...for some reason, Republicans LOVE a guy who does all of that. not all republicans love that. i actually registered as an independent because of all that. i can't support this guy and what he is doing to the republican party. it isn't the party i used to know. it's been a long slow ride for me to get to this point....but here i am. if a moderate party emerges from this extremists times i will be happy to support them. but for now i think i will support democrats just to do what i can to try to counteract the extremism of the current republican party. dont want the extreme left either...but i think we need to counter the far right capsize we have now. Link to comment
45timesbetterthanemptysuit Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Here's something I don't get. Anytime I am in a conversation with a Trump supporter and I bring up things I don't like about him, they always say..."Well, Hillary did that too...or....Obama did that too". Umm....As someone who didn't support either of those two.....I thought we wanted something better. I thought we wanted a Republican President who supported the military, supported law enforcement, didn't lie to the American people, didn't molest women, didn't have sexual scandals.... and didn't make policy decisions based on his or her own monetary gain.....oh yeah....and golf less. But...for some reason, Republicans LOVE a guy who does all of that. His policies are fantastic, he may lie less than his predecessors, it wasn’t a concern of the press. I spent 8 years waiting for people to care about the lying incompetent schmuck that preceded our President Trump. The press didn’t seem to care, his apostles certainly didn’t. Now you expect me to be outraged because our President included streaming when he said (likely true) that he had the most viewed SOTU? Nope. I’m familiar with Alinsky and Chicago politics. I will keep an eye on policies, business and my investments. I am ecstatic. It’s too bad when 1/2 of the country in light of all the fantastic things that are happening, are reduced to claiming that a tweet is significant. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, commando said: not all republicans love that. i actually registered as an independent because of all that. So, you and I aren't Republicans anymore. So, my comment doesn't apply to either of us. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 45timesbetterthanemptysuit said: His policies are fantastic, he may lie less than his predecessors Bull s#!t. And....you're willing to over look sexual molestation and aiding an enemy so you can get tax breaks? Really? Edited February 2, 2018 by BigRedBuster 2 Link to comment
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