ColoradoHusk Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: I see us finishing around 19-25. Not starting there. Aren't preseason polls predicting the "finish" to the season, not the starting point? If that's the case then having NU in the preseason top 25 isn't all that crazy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Moiraine said: If you see us finishing 19-25, why is Athlon “high AF” to put us at 19? Polls are supposed to show how good a team is compared to the other teams. It means they think Nebraska will be the 19th best team this season. If Nebraska ends up at 19-25, the people who had us unranked at the beginning were the wrong ones. I think it means that they think Nebraska is the 19th best team right now. Which we could be, but there's no way to actually know that or even believe it that makes any sense. There's nothing to support such an idea. Where we end up at the end of the season is a completely different thing, because that factors in progress and momentum and a body of work. This factors in blind hypothetical potential. Or it means something completely ambiguous and arbitrary and inconsistent and is really meaningless for anything other than driving clicks and ad conversion rates. 1 Quote Link to comment
Undone Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: Aren't preseason polls predicting the "finish" to the season, not the starting point? I don't think so. I've always assumed they're a predictor for the Week 1 polling. Quote Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Moiraine said: If you see us finishing 19-25, why is Athlon “high AF” to put us at 19? Polls are supposed to show how good a team is compared to the other teams. It means they think Nebraska will be the 19th best team this season. If Nebraska ends up at 19-25, the people who had us unranked at the beginning were the wrong ones. A preseason poll is somewhat predicated on what someone did the year before. Nebraska didn't look like the 19th best team in the country. I've never took the preseason poll as a prediction on where they thought they'd end up. Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just now, Undone said: I don't think so. I've always assumed they're a predictor for the Week 1 polling. I guess the preseason polls mean different things to different people/pollsters. If I were a voter, I would rank the teams the first week in how I would project them to end the season. After the first week, I would then rank the teams based on the body of work during the season. I guess my rankings would have the potential to fluctuate from week to week, but that's how I would do them. 2 Quote Link to comment
Undone Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, B.B. Hemingway said: A preseason poll is somewhat predicated on what someone did the year before. Nebraska didn't look like the 19th best team in the country. I've never took the preseason poll as a prediction on where they thought they'd end up. Agreed, and honestly I don't think we deserve a spot in the Top 25 after finishing 4-8. If we have convincing wins after our first three games I'm pretty sure we'll be ranked. But I kind of doubt we'll be ranked preseason nor after Week 1. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, B.B. Hemingway said: A preseason poll is somewhat predicated on what someone did the year before. Nebraska didn't look like the 19th best team in the country. I've never took the preseason poll as a prediction on where they thought they'd end up. By Athlon’s wording, it’s a prediction for how they’ll end up. They talk about our path to possibly winning the west and our toughest opponents being at home. I see all preseason polls as predictions, though. What is the purpose if that’s not what they are? Why not just have the previous season’s final poll and then the first poll after week one? Most/all of these preseason polls take graduations and schedule into account. They’re predicting how good they think the teams will be in the future because they don’t know how good they are right now. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Moiraine said: If you see us finishing 19-25, why is Athlon “high AF” to put us at 19? Polls are supposed to show how good a team is compared to the other teams. It means they think Nebraska will be the 19th best team this season. If Nebraska ends up at 19-25, the people who had us unranked at the beginning were the wrong ones. Because we aren't the 19th best team in the country. 1 Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just now, Moiraine said: By Athlon’s wording, it’s a prediction for how they’ll end up. They talk about our path to possibly winning the west and our toughest opponents being at home. That's how I always view the magazine preseason rankings. It's a prediction of the season and the end of the season rankings. I understand that this may differ from how AP and Coaches poll voters may differ. 1 Quote Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Moiraine said: By Athlon’s wording, it’s a prediction for how they’ll end up. They talk about our path to possibly winning the west and our toughest opponents being at home. Well, in that case it's too low If a preseason poll is supposed to be a prediction why do teams fall when they lose? If Bama loses a early SEC game and you thought they were the best team in the country, and think they'll win the title even with the loss, than why drop them? 1 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: Because we aren't the 19th best team in the country. You’re predicting Nebraska could be 19-25. Athlon is predicting 19. One of these is crazy AF to you for some reason. 5 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 33 minutes ago, Landlord said: Preseason polls are always stupid and this is especially so. I agree. And, this is an example of why. 44 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: Athlon is high AF 42 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said: where do you see us finishing? 37 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: I see us finishing around 19-25. Not starting there. So, if you think a team is going go finish 19th in the country, wouldn't you put them there in your rankings? 1 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: Aren't preseason polls predicting the "finish" to the season, not the starting point? If that's the case then having NU in the preseason top 25 isn't all that crazy. It was my assumption that a preseason poll was an insight to where the teams will start the 2019 season. If so, they are high AF If it is their prediction that Nebraska will end up 19th to end the year, then I think they are geniuses. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: Because we aren't the 19th best team in the country. But yet....you think that's where we will be??? 2 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Moiraine said: You’re predicting Nebraska could be 19-25. Athlon is predicting 19. One of these is crazy AF to you for some reason. I could see Nebraska ending up 19-25 if things go well. I don't see how they could be considered the 19th best team in the country right now. Do we need to continue to argue this? Quote Link to comment
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