Fru Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 17 hours ago, Redux said: I just want to pressure every QB we go up against. So tired of us looking like clowns while the other teams QB dances around while we flail around. Agreed. SO many games last year where the other team’s QB was just chillin in the pocket. Quote Link to comment
MyBloodIsRed16 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Fru said: Agreed. SO many games last year where the other team’s QB was just chillin in the pocket. This is where JoJo Domman should come in handy. If i recall they blitzed him a few times last year. If I was in charge that number would increase. He has the ability to be one of those disruptive players that offenses have to account for and it will lead to opportunities for other players. 1 Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said: This is where JoJo Domman should come in handy. If i recall they blitzed him a few times last year. If I was in charge that number would increase. He has the ability to be one of those disruptive players that offenses have to account for and it will lead to opportunities for other players. His best game was against OSU and that was one of the games we looked most disruptive defensively. Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Is it too cynical of me to say "not much"? 20 hours ago, Moiraine said: He was good enough to start for us, and we have an unknown replacing him. I’m not terribly worried about it but he was a bigger loss than Mick (due to him not playing much) or Freedom in my opinion, and our DL seems deeper. Basically just walking in the door, too. I know he was experienced in the scheme, but he vaulted over the rest of the safeties basically from minute 1. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Cdog923 said: Is it too cynical of me to say "not much"? No. Quote Link to comment
Undone Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 17 hours ago, brophog said: You can only do what your players are capable of doing, and with the transition the number of guys capable of executing any particular call wasn’t always where Chins wanted. For instance, he wanted to play a lot more man coverage, which would have allowed him to be far more aggressive up front. The example that you cite of secondary coverage scheme is a good one and definitely hits your point home. But not blitzing your linebackers when you play in a 3-4 does not. My main example would be the Ohio State game. Now Stoltenberg was back for that game and that made a small different - very small. But what was different? It was aggressive blitzing. If we had just asked our linebackers to stand around in run-fit like we did against Purdue (who is a gun-it-out passing team!!!!), Ohio State would have blown us out. I don't want to preemptively accuse Chinander of making those same mistakes again in 2019. My summary is to say that if we're aggressive all season long, we could win the West. Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Undone said: The example that you cite of secondary coverage scheme is a good one and definitely hits your point home. But not blitzing your linebackers when you play in a 3-4 does not. My main example would be the Ohio State game. Now Stoltenberg was back for that game and that made a small different - very small. But what was different? It was aggressive blitzing. If we had just asked our linebackers to stand around in run-fit like we did against Purdue (who is a gun-it-out passing team!!!!), Ohio State would have blown us out. I don't want to preemptively accuse Chinander of making those same mistakes again in 2019. My summary is to say that if we're aggressive all season long, we could win the West. Did we have Domann available against Purdue? If I remember correctly that OSU game was one of his first games back. Maybe Chinander decided blitzing was more of a risk than a reward if he was sending Gifford off the edge and it would be better to just have him in coverage. If your blitzer is not getting home to the QB consistently you just hurt yourself sending him. Quote Link to comment
Undone Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: Did we have Domann available against Purdue? If I remember correctly that OSU game was one of his first games back. Maybe Chinander decided blitzing was more of a risk than a reward if he was sending Gifford off the edge and it would be better to just have him in coverage. If your blitzer is not getting home to the QB consistently you just hurt yourself sending him. Nope, he didn't come back until Northwestern. Quote Link to comment
Undone Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Anybody makes this play, though. The play worked because it got called at the right time: Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Undone said: Anybody makes this play, though. The play worked because it got called at the right time: Yes but we weren't calling it as much when Domann wasn't available and that tells me they weren't confident in their other linebackers to get there consistently. I feel like I watched Gifford blitz alot last season and get lost at the LOS. If you blitz and the QB still has all day, that is a worst case scenario. You are better off not blitzing. Quote Link to comment
Undone Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Nebfanatic said: Yes but we weren't calling it as much when Domann wasn't available and that tells me they weren't confident in their other linebackers to get there consistently. You could be right, and in fact I hope you are. I hope that it wasn't pure confusion or stubbornness on Chinander's part and that it was roster-related. In which case we'll hope and pray for a healthy JJ this season. 2 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: I feel like I watched Gifford blitz alot last season and get lost at the LOS. He was used as a stand up defensive end for much of the season, and this tactic was pathetically unsuccessful. He didn't blitz so much as he just acted as a defensive end in a four man front. Meaning, it wasn't disguised blitzing which is really where the 3-4 can be so deadly. Again - if Chinander learns from these mistakes this season we could look even better than we did in games 7-12 last year. If he doesn't I'll be pretty frustrated. 1 Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Chinander's play calling last year was almost completely dictated by injuries and roster deficiencies. I'm not saying he is Charlie McBride, but I'd like to see what he can do with some Jimmies and Joes. 1 Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, Undone said: You could be right, and in fact I hope you are. I hope that it wasn't pure confusion or stubbornness on Chinander's part and that it was roster-related. In which case we'll hope and pray for a healthy JJ this season. He was used as a stand up defensive end for much of the season, and this tactic was pathetically unsuccessful. He didn't blitz so much as he just acted as a defensive end in a four man front. Meaning, it wasn't disguised blitzing which is really where the 3-4 can be so deadly. Again - if Chinander learns from these mistakes this season we could look even better than we did in games 7-12 last year. If he doesn't I'll be pretty frustrated. I think we won't have to rely as much on Domann not getting injured this season. We have more capeable bodies this season if Ferg can also stay healthy and if Tannor can step it up. Get some quality snaps from a guy like Garrett Nelson and thats some solid depth at OLB Quote Link to comment
Undone Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 47 minutes ago, In the Deed the Glory said: ...I'd like to see what he can do with some Jimmies and Joes. And in your opinion, does he have the Jimmies and Joes this season or not? Quote Link to comment
SFW Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 hours ago, TGHusker said: Aren't you a bowl of sunshine Just not drinking the Kool-Aid. Chinander had a proven track record of giving up points in bunches. Gonna have to score 50 on the big boys to win. 1 Quote Link to comment
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