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I apologize for ever voting for this piece of s#!t everyone........ won't happen again though! I'm furious right now! 

I live in Florida.   My grandmother died in Arizona where my uncle retired.  Her body arrived in Nebraska for a funeral this weekend.    I have corona virus symptoms being displaye

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https://www.mediaite.com/tv/dr-fauci-says-trumps-denial-and-lack-of-facts-contributed-to-magnitude-of-u-s-covid-death-toll/
 

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“Do you think that his denial and lack of facts contributed to this level of loss?” she asked.

“I certainly think that that’s part of it,” Fauci said. “When you have such a common force, such a powerful force against you…you’ve got to do it together in a unifying way and not have any kind of political ideology divisiveness getting in the way of what we’re trying to do. That’s not the only thing that really was a problem, but that’s certainly in my mind, having lived through it, was something that I found really to be unfortunately damaging.”

From there, Camerota noted Trump’s minimization of the virus while he was in office, and she asked Fauci, “Do you think that his denial and lack of facts contributed to this level of loss?”

 

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I’m uncomfortable going back and directly criticizing, but it’s really almost self evident that when you’re trying to signal the country to really buckle down and address the kinds of mitigation strategies that we put forth — the wearing of masks, the physical distancing, the avoiding congregate settings, the kinds of things that I and many of the other public health people, who were there, trying to get the country to appreciate the this that we were trying to do all throughout the entire outbreak.

I mean, the thing that I remember very clearly is when we were trying to open up the country, open up the economy and to do it carefully with the gateway, the phase 1, phase 2, the phase 3. I was hoping that would see a uniform, unified approach towards all doing that together. And when signals come saying ‘this isn’t so bad, we’re in pretty good shape,’ when we’re saying we’re not, we being the health people, that was not helpful, because the people who wanted to deny that this is something that was serious when you get a signal from above that it might not be [so bad], then you don’t do the kinds of things you need to do.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Will Fauci ever be comparing how open Florida is and has been compared to NY or CA while also comparing the death rates to those two states and let us know there is such a discrepancy?  

Not sure what that has to do with my post, but the answer is probably no.  We'll see when the final chapter is written on this plague. 

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6 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

Not sure what that has to do with my post, but the answer is probably no.  We'll see when the final chapter is written on this plague. 

One of the quotes talks directly about the opening of some parts of society in early summer 2020

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On 2/19/2021 at 1:50 PM, TGHusker said:

Yes as well as the older Maverick version wt James Gardner.  Always loved the way Gardner played all of his roles.   An Okla guy.  

 

He nails his role in that movie too. I wonder how much input he had on the script, seeing that he was the original Maverick. 

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18 hours ago, TGHusker said:

Not sure what that has to do with my post, but the answer is probably no.  We'll see when the final chapter is written on this plague. 

Agreed - there's a huge measure of 'wait and see' with all of this, but it's being actively analyzed by medical professionals. There are a lot of variables at play with COVID case spreading and death rates (including housing density, the volume of densely populated urban areas, the local health systems, etc.) and I don't know if we have a lot of solid answers. But, we can make educated guesses.

 

Florida and CA - two states with different approaches, similar per capita case numbers, roughly similar deaths per 100k. But then there are places like North Dakota and South Dakota... two of the least restrictive states with two higher per capita case volumes as well as significantly higher rates of death per 100k people than Florida or California.

 

As a "novel" virus, scientists and doctors are still learning.

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17 minutes ago, Enhance said:

Agreed - there's a huge measure of 'wait and see' with all of this, but it's being actively analyzed by medical professionals. There are a lot of variables at play with COVID case spreading and death rates (including housing density, the volume of densely populated urban areas, the local health systems, etc.) and I don't know if we have a lot of solid answers. But, we can make educated guesses.

 

Florida and CA - two states with different approaches, similar per capita case numbers, roughly similar deaths per 100k. But then there are places like North Dakota and South Dakota... two of the least restrictive states with two higher per capita case volumes as well as significantly higher rates of death per 100k people than Florida or California.

 

As a "novel" virus, scientists and doctors are still learning.

Everyone went into this not knowing exactly what to expect and the best way to combat it.  One thing is clear, the leaders that played it down as just another "flu" were a major problem.

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