Crusader Husker Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 In Ohio in the primaries you just ask for a ballot. I can vote Dem or Repub. I am wondering about other parties? Link to comment
Dr. Strangelove Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: Maybe the crowd is cheering for his well detailed, thoughtful and viable policy proposals that will work to solve everyday problems facing America's most vulnerable. As a noted and well informed policy wonk, Trump and his rallies are known for his inspiring speeches where he describes the proposals that are going to lift up the lives of his supporters and they cheer his descriptions on how those proposals will become law. 2 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, funhusker said: I'm a registered Republican in Nebraska so I can vote for reasonable candidates that will hopefully beat MAGA run against dems in the GE. Even though it didn't mean a thing, it has been fun to vote against Trump going on 5 times now... Agree 100% with your post - but here in Oklahoma - Link to comment
TGHusker Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, teachercd said: I agree! I think that we are going to see a big movement for Nikki now that Ron is out. I hope so. She and Jack Smith are our hope. I don't trust Biden to be cognitive enough to pull out the win - at least I don't want that to become the final gate against a trump surge. 1 Link to comment
Crusader Husker Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 He should jut have Monica Lewinsky be his VP, it is both fitting and brings everything kind of full circle. I say full circle because the people that felt Clinton was an immoral heathen and should be thrown out of office, are the same people voting for Trump. 1 Link to comment
nic Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, TGHusker said: Agree 100% with your post - but here in Oklahoma - Here in Colorado, Republican votes no longer matter. Biden will win this state. If Trump remains off the primary ballot, then Haley and Biden win. Assuming both are still running at the time. My vote is in the noise unless there is a Republican race in the primary. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, nic said: Here in Colorado, Republican votes no longer matter. Biden will win this state. If Trump remains off the primary ballot, then Haley and Biden win. Assuming both are still running at the time. My vote is in the noise unless there is a Republican race in the primary. Wouldn’t regional primaries be nice? Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 7 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Wouldn’t regional primaries be nice? 4 legit national parties would also be nice along with a single primary. I feel if we can have a national election at once then a national primary should be just as easy. 2 Link to comment
Decoy73 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 8 hours ago, Archy1221 said: Ahhhhhh, forgot us “dips#!ts” are supposed to listen to the overlords on who to vote for Maybe some of the “dips#!ts” live in states where the vote doesn’t really matter a whole heck of lot. Maybe voting for who you want vs who you are told to us a good thing. Maybe The Big Guy who got over 80 million votes last election with a record breaking DOW shouldn’t really need the “dips#!t” vote to win? One would think he will outperform 2020 vote totals easily with how swimmingly things are going. Amirite! Maybe you should get a job. 1 1 Link to comment
nic Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: Wouldn’t regional primaries be nice? Do tell? I haven't heard of the idea. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: Wouldn’t regional primaries be nice? For sure -- each state would matter as no region would have enough weight to proclaim a winner -- 4 regions one in Feb, Mar, April and May - or start in March etc Maybe the 1st region is the smallest - least amount of influence on the others - then the candidates have 1 month to campaign in the next region Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 37 minutes ago, Decoy73 said: Maybe you should get a job. Maybe. Then again, I kinda like the one I have so maybe not Well anyway, back to your voting post. Let’s walk through your post and assessment of voters who will write in a candidate instead of vote for Trump. Joe “The Big Guy” Biden got over 81 million voters in 2020. Trump didn’t So……now that everything is going great one would assume Joe will gain some voters or at the very least keep everything he has. As @teachercd has explained, who is gonna vote Trump that voted Joe last time. Now back to the people you call “dips#!ts”. The “dips#!ts” are helping because for every “dips#!t” that writes in a candidate, Trump will have to gain someone else just to lose by the same margin. Hope that helps 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 This interview with John Kelly should be enough to explain why trump deserves no votes - ever https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/politics/john-kelly-donald-trump-us-service-members-veterans/index.html Quote John Kelly, the longest-serving White House chief of staff for Donald Trump, offered his harshest criticism yet of the former president in an exclusive statement to CNN. Kelly set the record straight with on-the-record confirmation of a number of damning stories about statements Trump made behind closed doors attacking US service members and veterans, listing a number of objectionable comments Kelly witnessed Trump make firsthand. “What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France. “A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law. “There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.” In the statement, Kelly is confirming, on the record, a number of details in a 2020 story in The Atlantic by editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg, including Trump turning to Kelly on Memorial Day 2017, as they stood among those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq in Section 60 at Arlington National Cemetery, and saying, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” Those details also include Trump’s inability to understand why the American public respects former prisoners of war and those shot down in combat. Then-candidate Trump of course said in front of a crowd in 2015 that former Vietnam POW Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican, was “not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” But behind closed doors, sources told Goldberg, this lack of understanding went on to cause Trump to repeatedly call McCain a “loser” and to refer to former President George H. W. Bush, who was also shot down as a Navy pilot in World War II, as a “loser.” CNN reached out to the Trump campaign Monday afternoon, telling officials there that a former administration official had confirmed, on the record, a number of details about the 2020 Atlantic story, without naming Kelly, and seeking comment. The Trump campaign responded by insulting the character and credibility of retired Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Mark Milley, who had nothing to do with this story. An updated statement from a Trump campaign spokesperson on Tuesday said, “John Kelly has totally clowned himself with these debunked stories he’s made up because he didn’t serve his president well while working as chief of staff.” The Atlantic article also described Trump’s 2018 visit to France for the centennial anniversary of the end of World War I, where, according to several senior staff members, Trump said he did not want to visit the graves of American soldiers buried in the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris because, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” During that same trip to France, the article reported, Trump said the 1,800 US Marines killed in the Belleau Wood were “suckers” for getting killed. And Kelly’s statement adds context to a story in the book “The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021,” by Susan Glasser and Peter Baker, in which Trump, after a separate trip to France in 2017, tells Kelly he wants no wounded veterans in a military parade he’s trying to have planned in his honor. Inspired by the Bastille Day parade, except for the section of the parade featuring wounded French veterans in wheelchairs, Trump tells Kelly, “Look, I don’t want any wounded guys in the parade.” “Those are the heroes,” Kelly said. “In our society, there’s only one group of people who are more heroic than they are – and they are buried over in Arlington.” “I don’t want them,” Trump said. “It doesn’t look good for me.” The story squares with another recent story from Goldberg in The Atlantic, a profile of retired Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley, in which Trump does not react well to seeing severely wounded Army Captain Luis Avila singing “God Bless America” at a welcome event for the new chairman. “Why do you bring people like that here? No one wants to see that, the wounded.” Kelly’s statement also refers to a remark Trump made in response to that same article, which describes Milley, in the closing days of the Trump presidency in 2020, receiving intelligence that the Chinese military feared Trump was about to order a military strike on it. Milley, in a call authorized by Trump administration officials, reassured his Chinese counterparts that such a strike was not going to happen. That call was first reported in 2021 in the book “Peril” by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, but Trump said this past week on his social media site that the call was “an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH.” Asked for reaction to the suggestion that he deserves execution, Milley told Norah O’Donnell of “60 Minutes” that he wouldn’t “comment directly on those, those things. But I can tell you that this military, this soldier, me, will never turn our back on that Constitution.” Kelly’s statement to CNN comes days after former Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson sat down with CNN in an interview promoting her new book, “Enough,” and warned the public that “Donald Trump is the most grave threat we will face to our democracy in our lifetime, and potentially in American history.” “Enough,” interestingly, contains a scene in which Hutchinson and then-White House communications director Alyssa Farah Griffin push back against Goldberg’s 2020 story. Griffin issued a statement to The Atlantic after that story posted denying the report. Reached for comment over the weekend, Griffin said, “Despite publicly praising the military and claiming to be the most pro-military president, there’s a demonstrable record of Trump bashing the most decorated service members in our country, from Gen. Mattis to Kelly to Milley, to criticizing the wounded or deceased like John McCain. Donald Trump will fundamentally never understand service the way those who have actually served in uniform will, and it’s one of the countless reasons he’s unfit to be commander in chief.” No other presidential candidate in history has had so many detractors from his inner circle. His former secretary of defense, Mark Esper, told CNN in November 2022, “I think he’s unfit for office. … He puts himself before country. His actions are all about him and not about the country. And then, of course, I believe he has integrity and character issues as well.” Trump’s former attorney general, Bill Barr, told CBS in June that “he is a consummate narcissist. And he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interests. Our country can’t, you know, can’t be a therapy session for you know, a troubled man like this.” Enter your email to subscribe to the CNN Five Things Newsletter. close dialog Link to comment
Decoy73 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 28 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: Maybe. Then again, I kinda like the one I have so maybe not Well anyway, back to your voting post. Let’s walk through your post and assessment of voters who will write in a candidate instead of vote for Trump. Joe “The Big Guy” Biden got over 81 million voters in 2020. Trump didn’t So……now that everything is going great one would assume Joe will gain some voters or at the very least keep everything he has. As @teachercd has explained, who is gonna vote Trump that voted Joe last time. Now back to the people you call “dips#!ts”. The “dips#!ts” are helping because for every “dips#!t” that writes in a candidate, Trump will have to gain someone else just to lose by the same margin. Hope that helps I was kidding about the job thing. I’m not one to talk on that. Your explanation isn’t bad. But if one writes in, then doesn’t that imply that they equally dislike the two listed on the ballot? If that’s not the case, then why not vote for the guy (or gal- hopefully some day) that you dislike the least? Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I have always wondered with write ins...what do they do if you can't clearly read the name? Or if it is spelled incorrectly? 1 Link to comment
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