84HuskerLaw Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mavric said: 9 minutes ago, Mavric said: So if thats the response, I am going to expect a motion to compel and if not for contempt of court finding against the Big Ten. The minutes plus the recorded votes are expected. This is not satisfactory. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
RedSavage Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, Mavric said: Everyone: We want transparency. We want to see the minutes and the votes. B1G: Just trust us. We voted and had a plan. Promise. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
WyoHusker56 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 28 minutes ago, Mavric said: 11 President's are not going to want to check their email pretty soon. This will probably ratchet the pressure up and it removes deniability. Quote Link to comment
krc1995 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Why was this such a secret? and who were the two medical experts consulted and what was their advice? I’m assuming the groups of experts were medical experts. It doesn’t explicitly say that. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
84HuskerLaw Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 So OWH says they think it was NU, IA and OSU to vote to play, rest to cancel. Interesting but Big Ten may still have to provide docs and names and details on the medical experts etc. There is no justification for concealment nor was any irreparable harm given which they insisted last week. Assuming the vote IDs are confirmed by Big Ten officially, the questions need to be addressed to the remaining 3 desirables to get 6 to play now. A veto proof minority is needed. Wiscy. ? Purdue? Illinois? maybe possibles? The AD knows who to talk with. Thats 5 games or ten if they play twice. Find a couple Dakota non-cons ? Start 9-12 or 9-19 to start. 1 Quote Link to comment
84HuskerLaw Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 If such a schedule can be done quickly, 12 games might get an unbeaten team in the playoff. OSU and Wiscy have a shot at something atleast. NU has a bowl game in reach. Especially without the teams not playing, there could be openings for 5 win teams. We might get 7 or 8 with luck. seven at home! Have 30,000 fans and TV for all. Quote Link to comment
krc1995 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, 84HuskerLaw said: So OWH says they think it was NU, IA and OSU to vote to play, rest to cancel. Interesting but Big Ten may still have to provide docs and names and details on the medical experts etc. There is no justification for concealment nor was any irreparable harm given which they insisted last week. Assuming the vote IDs are confirmed by Big Ten officially, the questions need to be addressed to the remaining 3 desirables to get 6 to play now. A veto proof minority is needed. Wiscy. ? Purdue? Illinois? maybe possibles? The AD knows who to talk with. Thats 5 games or ten if they play twice. Find a couple Dakota non-cons ? Start 9-12 or 9-19 to start. just because they voted not to have conference football doesn't mean the 3 shouldn't get to play. It doesn't say that anywhere in the bylaws that I know of. That was just Warren publicly putting us in our place. That is what they should retract. 2 Quote Link to comment
84HuskerLaw Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 32 minutes ago, krc1995 said: just because they voted not to have conference football doesn't mean the 3 shouldn't get to play. It doesn't say that anywhere in the bylaws that I know of. That was just Warren publicly putting us in our place. That is what they should retract. Well I guess if you feel the other 11 wont do anything just ‘cause. U need 6 to simply tell the 8 to go to hello! Thats my point. I tend to agree the three are pretty strong and a real penalty vs them would ruffle enough feathers but??? There is a plenty of ire and embarrassment among the 11 quitters theyd do something out of spite. And you need games too. I am not sure many opponents can be had for Ohio State and even IA may be tricky. 1 Quote Link to comment
krc1995 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, 84HuskerLaw said: Well I guess if you feel the other 11 wont do anything just ‘cause. U need 6 to simply tell the 8 to go to hello! Thats my point. I tend to agree the three are pretty strong and a real penalty vs them would ruffle enough feathers but??? There is a plenty of ire and embarrassment among the 11 quitters theyd do something out of spite. And you need games too. I am not sure many opponents can be had for Ohio State and even IA may be tricky. But to try to explain my point better- sources say the vote was 11-3 to cancel the BIG season, right? Did they also vote to cancel the seasons for OSU, Iowa, and Nebraska? Who says we can’t pursue a season if the conference doesn’t play? Is there an all for one, one for all clause? 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 7 hours ago, 84HuskerLaw said: So if thats the response, I am going to expect a motion to compel and if not for contempt of court finding against the Big Ten. The minutes plus the recorded votes are expected. This is not satisfactory. It seems odd to me that they could do discovery and force the conference to provide information before ruling on the case. If the players don't have standing to sue the conference then the evidence wouldn't have mattered. 1 Quote Link to comment
84HuskerLaw Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Not so much discovery as such. There is very little factual dispute at this point. It is mostly a matter of the court saying to Big Ten - follow the law which is clear here. Standing is interesting but as public officials (univ presidents are), I would suspect any member of the public as standing to demand they follow the law, not just players. Some nosy district attorney might get curious as well and go over to the Big Ten offices to see for himself. Quote Link to comment
84HuskerLaw Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 4 hours ago, krc1995 said: But to try to explain my point better- sources say the vote was 11-3 to cancel the BIG season, right? Did they also vote to cancel the seasons for OSU, Iowa, and Nebraska? Who says we can’t pursue a season if the conference doesn’t play? Is there an all for one, one for all clause? My point is that the 11 quitters can vote to fine or punish the 3 rebels who go outside the pack. Its not what they have already voted (although without meeting minutes and records we dont know what they have actually done), we must be concerned about what the 11 will do. Now , presumably NU knows but I guess even that is not certain if they have been meeting like the little rascals boys club or mostly over the phone in informal ways etc. Special K did specifically threaten NU if we dared stray we would get the boot - about the only thing he has said publicly at all. 1 Quote Link to comment
flatwaterfan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Fine cancel the B1G games but why cancel non-conference games then? What do the networks say about this loss of content? Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, flatwaterfan said: Fine cancel the B1G games but why cancel non-conference games then? What do the networks say about this loss of content? The Big Ten didn’t have TV control over the big non-conference games this year. Most of those big non-conference games had Big Ten teams as visitors, so the other conference had the TV rights/contract to that game. Quote Link to comment
flatwaterfan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 33 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: The Big Ten didn’t have TV control over the big non-conference games this year. Most of those big non-conference games had Big Ten teams as visitors, so the other conference had the TV rights/contract to that game. Ah, missed that fact. Thank you. Quote Link to comment
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