Trump's Post Election Fallout: Legal & Obstruction actions

[BigRedBuster]

12 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

 

WTF????

 

This is exactly the issue with People like Moscow Mitch.  Instead of thinking about what is right for the country and what their duty is.....they’re concerned about being “anti Trump”.  
 

unbelievable!!!!

[RedDenver]

 

[Moiraine]

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Jordan added: "What's wrong with having a debate on the floor of the House and on the floor of the Senate about an election that more than a third of the electorate thinks was stolen?"

 

 

You're part of the reason they think it was stolen, you f#&%ing a$$h@!e.

[RedDenver]

 

[commando]

soon donnie...

 

[BigRedBuster]

Only hire the best.  
 

 

[BigRedBuster]

By the way.  
 

 

[TGHusker]

Perhaps the costliest consequence/fallout of Trump's fraudulent election fraud project is that we haven't had a president since the election.  While covid deaths race to all time highs  we have this other issue:  massive hacking of govt and corporate computer networks by the Russians.  And Trump has done nothing and has said nothing. 

He is leaving Biden with several very big, dangerous and critical problems to solve. 

 

If ever there was a case where a president should be kicked out of the WH the day after the election - this was it.  He is not only the lamest of lame ducks but trouble making little child (no offense meant towards little children) who is placing us all in danger.

 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/the-largest-espionage-attack-in-history-bush-cyber-czar-richard-clarke-raises-alarm-on-suspected-russian-attack/

 

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Richard Clarke worked under three administrations and served as special advisor to President George W. Bush. Appearing on The Lead with Jake Tapper Thursday, he offered terrifying insight into reports of a massive cyber-attack carried out on the U.S. government.

“This is the largest espionage attack in history,” Clarke flatly opened to host Jake Tapper. “This is as though the Russians got a passkey, a skeleton key for about half the locks in the country. Think about it that way. It’s 18,000 companies and government institutions scattered around the U.S. And the world. This is an espionage attack.”

It is not confirmed that Russians are behind the attack, but reports say the U.S. government suspects Russia is responsible.

Former Trump Homeland Security Adviser Tom Bossert first raised alarms about the hack in a Thursday New York Times op-ed.

“The magnitude of this ongoing attack is hard to overstate,” he warned. “President Trump is on the verge of leaving behind a federal government, and perhaps a large number of major industries, compromised by the Russian government.” Since then reports have surfaced that the U.S. agencies that maintain its nuclear warhead stockpile may have also been compromised.

Clarke explained how widespread this cyberattack is, saying that many American companies have been compromised as well.

Tapper asked “So, what can the Russians, assuming that it was they who are, in fact, behind this, what can they do with the information they have? What’s the risk here?”

“Well, they did not get into classified, secret, or top-secret networks yet, as far as we know,” Clarke replied. “So they found whatever you can find on an unclassified network in the federal department. Some of that is interesting and some of that, combined with classified information, will tell you something.”

The real vulnerability, in Clarke’s esteem, is how they can use access to networks in a future crisis, and potentially blackmail the U.S. to influence foreign policy.

 

 

[TGHusker]

More on the above post from CNN:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/18/politics/donald-trump-absent-covid-stimulus-vaccine/index.html

 

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When the history of the pandemic is written, one of the great mysteries will be what President Donald Trump was doing in the waning days of his presidency as the number of Covid-19 deaths in the US soared past 3,000 each day, the virus spread unchecked and Congress dithered over the details of an emergency relief package that could be the difference between people being able to eat and being forced to sleep on the streets this holiday season.

Trump ran for president pretending he was the consummate dealmaker, the chief executive who could make things happen with a snap of his fingers. He will go down in history as a president who worsened the grief and tragedy of the most consequential pandemic in 100 years by being contemptuous of masks and the safety precautions designed by his own administration -- a man incapable of empathy, who chose to remain cocooned in his White House bubble at a time when leadership would have mattered.

For weeks now, Trump has spent most of his time plotting how to nullify the results of President-elect Joe Biden's November victory as he has fleeced his supporters to pay for a string of ill-conceived lawsuits that were tossed out of court by some of his own judicial appointees. When those efforts failed, he began looking ahead to January 6 when a joint session of Congress meets to formally count the Electoral College results -- seeing another opportunity to try and thwart the democratic process.

In his comfort zone of the Twittersphere -- where he's put out countless false tweets claiming the election was "swindled" -- Trump has been silent about the disturbing hacking campaign, suspected to be tied to Russia, that has endangered US national security. Despite being briefed on the massive data breach by top intelligence officials Thursday, he hasn't said anything about risks to the federal government or how he planned to address it.

Sen. Mitt Romney, who has been a critic of the President, called the hacking "the modern equivalent of almost Russian bombers reportedly flying undetected over the entire country," speaking to SiriusXM on Thursday. "And in this setting, not to have the White House aggressively speaking out and protesting and taking punitive action is really, really quite extraordinary."

Biden, without mentioning Trump or his administration, tried to draw the contrast. "Our adversaries should know that, as President, I will not stand idly by in the face of cyber assaults on our nation," he said in a statement Thursday.

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

2 hours ago, TGHusker said:

Perhaps the costliest consequence/fallout of Trump's fraudulent election fraud project is that we haven't had a president since the election.  While covid deaths race to all time highs  we have this other issue:  massive hacking of govt and corporate computer networks by the Russians.  And Trump has done nothing and has said nothing. 

He is leaving Biden with several very big, dangerous and critical problems to solve. 

 

If ever there was a case where a president should be kicked out of the WH the day after the election - this was it.  He is not only the lamest of lame ducks but trouble making little child (no offense meant towards little children) who is placing us all in danger.

 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/the-largest-espionage-attack-in-history-bush-cyber-czar-richard-clarke-raises-alarm-on-suspected-russian-attack/

 

 

I was thinking about this the other day.  It's like since he lost, he doesn't give a s#!t about anything other than claiming fraud in the election.

 

I'm trying to figure out if that's a good thing or bad thing.

[TGHusker]

1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said:

I was thinking about this the other day.  It's like since he lost, he doesn't give a s#!t about anything other than claiming fraud in the election.

 

I'm trying to figure out if that's a good thing or bad thing.

Yeah, I know what you mean - keep the child distracted while the adults get things done.    Unfortunately, there are too many issues to have with a 'vacant' WH.  Jan 20th can't get here soon enough. 

[Archy1221]

14 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

I was thinking about this the other day.  It's like since he lost, he doesn't give a s#!t about anything other than claiming fraud in the election.

 

I'm trying to figure out if that's a good thing or bad thing.

Good point.   For four years, most all Dems and never trumpets said everything he does is wrong and get him out.  Now they complain he isn’t doing anything, get him in.  Can’t have it both ways.  

[RedDenver]

43 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Good point.   For four years, most all Dems and never trumpets said everything he does is wrong and get him out.  Now they complain he isn’t doing anything, get him in.  Can’t have it both ways.  

Logical fallacy there. Saying he's doing everything wrong does not mean he should be doing nothing because doing nothing can itself be the wrong thing to do. Doing nothing and doing the wrong thing are different.

[Archy1221]

18 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Logical fallacy there. Saying he's doing everything wrong does not mean he should be doing nothing because doing nothing can itself be the wrong thing to do. Doing nothing and doing the wrong thing are different.

Incorrect.  
If one does “everything wrong” then every decision that person makes, makes the issue worse.  
however, doing nothing can generate an outcome that is better than doing nothing.  

[Archy1221]

1 minute ago, Archy1221 said:

Incorrect.  
If one does “everything wrong” then every decision that person makes, makes the issue worse.  
however, doing nothing can generate an outcome that is better than doing nothing.  

Edit:  better than doing the wrong thing