nic Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 14 hours ago, zoogs said: It's kinda crazy to me that (some) Michigan fans can't appreciate what they have right now in Harbaugh. I would say that is very few. At least no one I know. Most of the criticism I hear is being directed at Drevno, the OC, for play calling and OL recruiting, Hoke for leaving the OL and QB positions dry when he left, and the QBs for being turnover machines. I think Harbaugh is still thought of as the chosen one. :-) 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 hour ago, nic said: Most of the criticism I hear is being directed at Langsdorf, the OC, for play calling and OL recruiting, Bo for leaving the OL and QB positions dry when he left, and the QBs for being turnover machines. Look how that sentence looks when you just change two names. Hmmmm....... Quote Link to comment
nic Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Look how that sentence looks when you just change two names. Hmmmm....... Funny. Or not. Misery loves company I guess. :-) Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) So.... michigan has has lost to: MSU (rival) PSU (blow out) They dropped out of the top 25. I see possibly getting manhandled by Wisconsin and OSU. I can see him not getting fired this year. He was put on way to high of pedestal for that....possibly. But, how much longer with this go with Michigan not winning the big games....and not being ranked? Edited October 22, 2017 by BigRedBuster Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: But, how much longer with this go with Michigan not winning the big games....and not being ranked? If they're stupid, they fire him soon. Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: So.... michigan has has lost to: MSU (rival) PSU (blow out) They dropped out of the top 25. I see possibly getting manhandled by Wisconsin and OSU. I can see him not getting fired this year. He was put on way to high of pedestal for that....possibly. But, how much longer with this go with Michigan not winning the big games....and not being ranked? I don't see them canning him...I see him leaving for the NFL though. Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) He didn't really turn it on at Stanford until his fourth year and it's not like the wheels have completely fallen off in Ann Arbor. He lost a close game to a scrappy rival in MSU and got blown out on the road against a very good Penn State team that Franklin has been building up for four years....and Franklin had issues his first 2 1/2 years as well. Anyone with some sense could tell they were going to take a step back this year with all of the talent they lost and the injuries they've now sustained. They'd be stupid to fire him and get back in the Tennessee-lost-in-the-wilderness style cycle that they just exited. We have a broader problem in the Big Ten with how horribly unbalanced our divisions are. The East has three, maybe four, elitish coaches and three blue chip programs. One of them has to finish fourth every year and I would hate to see a school bail on their coach over it. Our issue is that unlike the SEC or even the PAC 12 our divisional imbalance isn't going to be cyclical. The SEC East won 7 of the first 9 SEC CGs but hasn't won in the last 10 years...that kind of shift isn't going to happen with us. Nebraska is the West's one traditionally elite program and may come back, then you have what, NU and Wisconsin? Maybe a strong Iowa team from year to year? That's never going to match the East. We either need to raid the Big XII again and add Oklahoma and one of KU/KSU/ISU or some how redraw our divisions yet again. I do NOT want to add OU as it would dilute the character of the conference even more...it's bad enough we have Rutgers and Maryland which in retrospect seem like especially stupid additions with the rise of streaming services and death of traditional cable that made them attractive in the first place. My dream would be to drop MD and Rutgers and add ND and Mizzou or KU/KSU but that will never happen for a million reasons, the time for that was six years ago. I hated leaders and legends but I'm not sure East/West is all that better. I miss Wisconsin's budding rivalry with Michigan State and playing Ohio State somewhat frequently. Edited October 22, 2017 by Excel 1 Quote Link to comment
nic Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 22 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: So.... michigan has has lost to: MSU (rival) PSU (blow out) They dropped out of the top 25. I see possibly getting manhandled by Wisconsin and OSU. I can see him not getting fired this year. He was put on way to high of pedestal for that....possibly. But, how much longer with this go with Michigan not winning the big games....and not being ranked? From 2008 - 2014 Michigan finished ranked once. In 2015 and 2016, they finished in the top 11 or 10. 10-3 both years. Tough to fire a fire coach for that. They could still go 10-3 this year, maybe 9-4. I am guessing he lasts 7 years with 9 to 10 win seasons. :-) 1 Quote Link to comment
4skers89 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I'd say Harbaugh has done a good job and is safe. Whether he is worth as much as he is paid is more of a question if any college coach is worth it. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) I want to make something clear. If I were a fan or in the Michigan administration, I would not be calling for his head. I am of the opinion way too many fans and sometimes administrations call for firings way too often and too soon. It is extremely rare that a program has a straight line to success. It's almost always up and down getting there. My point is more about the fans who fall into that group where they think anything but a championship is total failure and heads need to roll. I would find humor in it if he were fired though. Edited October 23, 2017 by BigRedBuster 2 Quote Link to comment
nic Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 6 hours ago, 4skers89 said: I'd say Harbaugh has done a good job and is safe. Whether he is worth as much as he is paid is more of a question if any college coach is worth it. I agree with this. Quote Link to comment
LumberJackSker Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Didn't Michigan only return 6 starters from last season? On top of that their starting qb is out. They'll probably finish the year 8-4 or 9-3. Sounds like they'll return a bunch of starters for next season and are still signing great recruiting classes. Sounds pretty good to me. Quote Link to comment
nic Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 On 9/25/2017 at 6:55 PM, Mavric said: RE: Harbaugh's rant about Purdue's visitor's lockerroom: ESPN Some info in the paper from Speight's father after his injury at Purdue. Gives some insight into why Harbaugh complained. http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2017/10/26/wilton-speight-injury-handled-poorly-purdue-father-says/107045682/ Michigan and Michigan State have full X-ray capabilities at their stadiums, and they also provide police escorts if a player needs to be transported to and from the hospital. It’s not clear why Speight wasn’t transported directly to a hospital by ambulance. Instead, Wilton sat in the front seat of a van provided by Purdue and driven by a student. The Speights, two medical trainers, a doctor and Thai Trinh, an orthopedic sports medicine fellow at Michigan, piled into a van to be transported to the student health clinic, about two blocks from the stadium. ... “They take us in the basement,” Bobby Speight said. “It’s very dimly lit. Halfway down the hall, there’s a (radiology) technician. Wilton is in (partial) uniform and still wearing cleats, and she asks Wilton his name. The (van driver) says he needs an X-ray. (The technician) looks at me and says, ‘I need your insurance card.’ ” ... “And we waited 20 minutes for the rescue squad team,” he said. “At that point, Wilton says he has tingling in his legs and is in substantial pain. The EMT riding in the back of the ambulance asks us if we need an IV or vital monitoring and Trinh replied, ‘No, but we need him stable and immobile. This is a back injury.’ We stop at a light, and the Michigan doctor asks how long is it going to take, and (the EMT) said 30 to 45 minutes on game day. “Our doctor asked him, ‘Couldn’t we please turn on the siren and make better time?’ And (the rescue squad member) said, ‘Don’t you get smart with me. You said this is a non-vital trip.’ Our doctor said, ‘I don’t care what I told you, this boy has tingling in his legs. Turn the siren on and go.’ 2 Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 That's not acceptable at this level. Quote Link to comment
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