Saunders Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Quote Concept Wednesday: Saints Play Action For the first Concept Wednesday of the Scott Frost era, we’re going to look at one of Frost’s favorite vertical passing concepts: Saints. Saints is yet another play in the Frost playbook that can be traced directly to Chip Kelly. It was Kelly’s preferred vertical concept in Philadelphia and San Francisco, and I expect it will feature heavily in UCLA’s offense as long as Kelly is in Los Angeles. Saints is also responsible for several of UCF’s explosive plays in 2016 and 2017, as Frost used his speed at the skill positions to kill defenses down the field with one-on-one matchups. For now, let’s take a look at the core Saints concept and then a variation Frost ran in the Spring Game that led to Jaevon McQuitty’s first touchdown in a Husker uniform. https://huskerchalktalk.com/2018/04/25/concept-wednesday-saints-play-action/ 5 Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Good read about the Saints play action. Looks like a lot of it will depend on whether our O-line can give the QB enough time to get the ball downfield. That wasn't hard to do with our #1s blocking the #2s on Saturday. It'll be a bit harder when we start facing B1G D-linemen. Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 RKay makes a good point: watch Martinez's feet in the provided gif. That's pretty polished for someone who should be a HS senior. 1 Quote Link to comment
MichiganDad3 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 38 minutes ago, NUance said: Good read about the Saints play action. Looks like a lot of it will depend on whether our O-line can give the QB enough time to get the ball downfield. That wasn't hard to do with our #1s blocking the #2s on Saturday. It'll be a bit harder when we start facing B1G D-linemen. The QB will have all day if the gap control D the Huskers used for the past several years is adopted by other teams Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 27 minutes ago, NUance said: Good read about the Saints play action. Looks like a lot of it will depend on whether our O-line can give the QB enough time to get the ball downfield. That wasn't hard to do with our #1s blocking the #2s on Saturday. It'll be a bit harder when we start facing B1G D-linemen. The defensive front played on McQuitty's TD is actually a difficult look for this concept. Frontside drops flat to take away the back and backside is in a wide 7 tech. That's only 3 rushers, but because of defensive concept you get a good speed rush to the outside with no help and wasted blockers on the frontside. This play, on both sides of the ball, is why I thought the spring game was great. Got some good looks on tape. There are details all over this play that need correcting, but they're mostly just that...details. We look competent, on what is a very interesting set of calls on both sides. 2 Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 34 minutes ago, Cdog923 said: RKay makes a good point: watch Martinez's feet in the provided gif. That's pretty polished for someone who should be a HS senior. Watch his eyes. Times out the progression well. As important as the feet are, it's the eyes that direct your feet. Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 41 minutes ago, NUance said: Good read about the Saints play action. Looks like a lot of it will depend on whether our O-line can give the QB enough time to get the ball downfield. That wasn't hard to do with our #1s blocking the #2s on Saturday. It'll be a bit harder when we start facing B1G D-linemen. Yes, the o-line will still probably be a weakness with the offense, but it's good to see the QB's actually have some running ability when the pocket does break down. A mobile QB will really slow down a pass rush, especially if the defense is playing man coverage in the back 7. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, brophog said: Watch his eyes. Times out the progression well. As important as the feet are, it's the eyes that direct your feet. It's gonna be weird if we end up having a good running QB who also goes through progressions. 4 Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Moiraine said: It's gonna be weird if we end up having a good running QB who also goes through progressions. I know many people think that you can't have both a running QB who can also pass, but with the QB training and 7 on 7's the past decade, the more mobile QB's are becoming better passers than ever. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: I know many people think that you can't have both a running QB who can also pass, but with the QB training and 7 on 7's the past decade, the more mobile QB's are becoming better passers than ever. I've seen other teams have it, but we haven't yet. Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Moiraine said: I've seen other teams have it, but we haven't yet. Yes, NU has been slow to get QB's who can do both, although Taylor Martinez was statistically a better passer than most want to admit. The best thing about Frost's offense is that it doesn't require QB's to throw into tight windows or make "tough throws". Once the offense gets clicking, we will see guys running wide open. Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 That is a great article explaining the concept. It will be more difficult to defend wt JD and TL in the line up together along wt Stanley. Wt Bell as RB -you have to respect the play action part of the play. Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, TGHusker said: That is a great article explaining the concept. It will be more difficult to defend wt JD and TL in the line up together along wt Stanley. Wt Bell as RB -you have to respect the play action part of the play. Another aspect of Frost's offense is utilizing different position groups in various positions to mess with the defense. Frost could go 2 TE's and 2 RB's to make the opposing D think that NU is going heavy and going to run the ball, and bringing in LB's to match up with the TE's. Then, Frost can still go with this same formation, replacing TE's for the WR's and putting Bell out as a WR. If the D stays in a nickel or dime, Frost will just run the ball at them. Frost wants versatility out of his players so the position groups can be interchangeable for each other. Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, ColoradoHusk said: Another aspect of Frost's offense is utilizing different position groups in various positions to mess with the defense. Frost could go 2 TE's and 2 RB's to make the opposing D think that NU is going heavy and going to run the ball, and bringing in LB's to match up with the TE's. Then, Frost can still go with this same formation, replacing TE's for the WR's and putting Bell out as a WR. If the D stays in a nickel or dime, Frost will just run the ball at them. Frost wants versatility out of his players so the position groups can be interchangeable for each other. Now wouldn't it be quite a chess match if NU meets UCLA in the NCG (or at the Rose Bowl ) some year each using the same O. 1 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I don't know where this goes, but this is probably the best thread for it. Coach Walters breaks down the concepts of McQuitty's TD in the Spring Game. 1 Quote Link to comment
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