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If our O was remotely as productive as UCF's was I would agree with you. The trade-off would be worth it. As-is I'd rather give somebody else like Helfrich the keys to the O and have Frost addressing all phases of the game and our processes in general.

It's been obvious that Frost doesn't know a lot about what's going-on with the D and ST's because the O takes-up so much of his focus. This was a prime example. Meanwhile our O's production has dropped markedly for the second season in a row. Frost needs to replace Mario with a quality OC/qb-coach then back-off into more of a GM role where he addresses the team as a whole. We also need a legit ST's coordinator.

If they canned Herman just to bring in Sarkisian they are morons. Lots of guys would succeed with Bama's immense talent. He was meh as a HC at Wash and USC. Feels like us replacing Bo with Riley. Allen would be a great get.

I'm not completely sold on Chin, still frustrates me at times, but his unit has improved each season. If you could say the same for the O and ST's we'd have been at least 6-2 and confident about the future. Hell the O has been lower ranked with each season while having the same issue of being ranked much higher in yards than scoring. ST's were still crap outside of kicker that was developed and started at LSU. If we don't make real moves to fix the O and ST's I have very little faith in Frost turning this around. Defense I can accept "staying the course" on.

Just because we've had three seasons of being error-prone you think we should change how we address errors? Seems like a knee-jerk reaction to me.

If Frost is protecting his buddies because he feels he has all the time in the world for things to work-out then he isn't the right guy for the job, and neither is Moos for giving him that idea. He took the big money job, that comes with having to be brutally honest about where improvements can be made and making tough choices. I'd be fine with replacing Chin with a top DC but I can accept giving him more time to keep on progressing. Our St's have sucked all three seasons. Our O has digressed since year-one, we double our wins this season with the year-one O. We are still an error-prone team. Those things absolutely have to be addressed

His spot should be taken by an OC/qb-coach that could liven-up the O while allowing Frost to become much more involved-in and knowledgeable-of the team as a whole. Hell we'd even be better-off giving Frost the qb's and replacing Mario with a good ST's coordinator. We have better use of the his position than a guy that just coaches qb's and does a meh job of it.

IMO Frost has to replace Mario with an OC/qb-coach and cede control over the offense so he can focus much more on the team as a whole. Having Frost so focused on the O worked at UCF because the UCF's O was awesome. Our O and qb-position need help. This and a quality on-field ST's coordinator need to happen.

On the plus-side for us Mike Hankwitz is hanging it up over at NW. Dude is one of the better DC's in the country. Doubtful his replacement is as good.

If we try to go into another season with a freaking analyst running ST's Frost should be fired on principle. We need a quality on-field coach putting quality time into ST's Actually we are in like 9th place in the con. Since teams played a different number of games it's not really exact. If we had managed 4-4 we'd have been fifth(or kinda tied for it with 3-3 Wiscy).

Frost thought he could keep all his boys happy and get off cheap just hiring an analyst to run ST's. That was a horrible idea that has to be fixed. We need a quality on-field coach running ST's. I'm excited about the young O-line. We had probably our best performance of the season with three frosh and a soph starting. I'm not totally sold on Chin but at least you can say the D has gotten better each season. They usually held-up their end. Would like to see us force more turnovers and develop a good pass-rushing OLB, gotta have one of those in a 3-4. Hard to say which seniors will return. Heimes and Miller are obviously done. Hopefully we get lucky, could make a real difference next season. If we don't make any staffing changes then IMO Frost just isn't the right guy. The O and ST's need fixing. Frost needs to be more involved in the team as a whole. Replace Mario with a Co-OC/QB-coach that Frost can cede control of the O to. Frost backs-off into more of a GM/quality-control HC, maybe he can handle ST's himself like Urban did. Otherwise we have to replace somebody else too, I lean slightly towards Ruud. If the new ST's guy can coach ILB's great, if not then give Dawson a raise and all the LB's. The problem is that we're error-prone, and the longer a drive takes the more opportunities there are for drive-killing errors. We need to develop a downfield passing game no matter what but grinding-out drives will work too if we can clean things up.

Totally disagree, if Frost loses for four years straight seasons folks will see it as his failure not ours for not giving him more time. This isn't firing Frank and Bo after 9-3 seasons, it's firing a guy that had four seasons to do SOMETHING and did squat. We've already moved the goalposts considerably in terms of what constitutes success for Frost, that's enough, he shouldn't also need a fifth season to get over the bar we've lowered.

It was always my view that if you gave Bo a firmer hand in terms of his behavior and offered constructive critique while also being supportive and opening the checkbook for some needed staffing upgrades(for example make Els an analyst/recruiting coordinator, give Papuchis ST's/LB's, and hire top-tier DC). Do that and no we aren't at mid-90's level but we bump-up to 10-win seasons and that yearly blowout loss becomes more competitive.

Frost gripping and going into "playing not to lose" mode killed our offense in the second-half. Need to stay on the damn gas. We've got athletes, need to get them the ball downfield some.

Ya, in a perfect world we'd have guys that can do both and I get that Frost is trying to establish a culture but we still have to get guys in there that pose a downfield threat.

I say the same thing here as I do to starting Luke. He couldn't do a worse job than what we've been watching. I couldn't tell you what's gotten into Frost or AM but they aren't getting the job done, we have the most underachieving offense in the country.

We need to get our more athletic wr's involved, force NW to protect the whole field and get some big plays. We tend to have drive-killing errors and while we certainly need to clean those up the more plays a drive requires the more opportunities there are for those goofs. We need to press NW's wr's, we can't play-off like we did against OSU,. Hopefully it was just a matter of Chin being exceedlingly respectful of OSU's wr's. NW is a disciplined team that loves to chew clock, play-off and they will gladly nickel-and-dime us all day. It's NW, you know it will be a brawl. We need to keep our heads in the game and retain discipline when things get tough. We should have gotten a considerable jump in terms of game-prep, hopefully that makes the difference.

Sucks that this didn't come-out for the better for either party. We lost a very productive wr and he went from productive pro-prospect to riding pine.

Back in the day during the freaking summer I parked in the gravel lot behind the cement one at Harper-Schramm-Smith. Literally nobody else was in the lot but those bastards still gave me a ticket.

Pathetic to see guys working for ESPN that are so poorly informed. We were never leaving, just wanted to play football this season.

If Benhart starts like the coaches are hoping I'd imagine he'll have his position on lock too. Could see him moving to LT. Guessing it will be Benhart, Banks, Piper, Noulli or Hixson, and Cam.

Losing the noncon sched and Spring practice definitely hurts in terms of getting a winning record. Can't say I'd be happy with 5-5 but would still take it as a sign of progress. It's year three, we need SOMETHING to hang our hats on. As far as not having the season goes Imore staffing/responsibility changes may well be needed. If that is the case I'd rather find out in 2020 so we can hit the ground running in 2021.

Luke McCaffrey always gets his coffee.

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Hypercolor would be an improvement from a shade of green that should have died back in the 80's.