PasstheDamnBallGuy

Can you explain why you don't think UCF counts? I also think outside of a few exceptions people decide they like or don't like how their own coach acts at pressers by how much they win. When they win games a coach like Popovich or Saban or BB seem fine but if they were on losing teams we talk about how they are huge a$$h@!es. I live in Texas and when I told people I'm a Nebraska fan they would tell me how much they loved Bos intensity and passion during his first few years.

Can you clarify what you mean by handled poorly?

We cheated, so what? Deal with it. What a f#&%ing douche

Iowa is a much better team that is gonna blow us out until we play a close game and then they suck.

Yeah I think this is the one that most people noticed. Seems like a post vs a team that runs a lot of cover 2 should be one of your top reads

Has the Big 12 shown it can beat up on anyone outside of themselves? Certainly not sun belt teams

We should switch to a wisconsin style offense. Without looking at the score even I'm sure they dominated that northwestern defense today.

No actually I come from a long line of coaches going back to Pop Warner himself and I play a lot of Madden so I know for a fact it's wrong. I just can't provide any examples.

Well for one people are starting to talk about firing Frost at least hinting as you are even doing in your post. Secondly why is this always an argument. Hey you know the fans who are always right about everything and not reactionary at all, they would normally want a coach fired here. Who gives a f#&% what they think tbh

Can you provide an example of this where our scheme was not working vs what Illinois was doing and what we should have done instead?

I think just maybe the 2 wide open TD plays that Luke missed would make the offense look a little better.

It is really hard to not thing the B1G wants to screw us with how bad the refs have helped them this game

Another year vs Illinois another fumble given to them by refs

Better WR corps than Penn State?

You know I always wonder why we don't run more shallow crossers for some easy completions like a lot of other teams do. Its really hard to know if we are running them much though because you barely get to see WRs on the broadcast if we don't complete a pass to them.

@Undone I'm gonna have to call bulls#!t on you here. That red filling looks much more like that of a strawberry or raspberry turnover.

If you want to talk about intangibles that's fine but if Martinez started today and had that exact same game people would be s#!tting on him real hard.

Well we at least would not have to worry about this this year.

If we are going in the time machine go back and either hire a firm for the search after firing Solich and/or pay any amount of money to get Zimmer here. That way we still have recent success and a stocked team.

Oh it was, but anyone on that field should be able to catch something or at least tip it even 6'8" in the air.

Yeah I'm pretty sure there was a LB or DB sitting under that route also so if it was low enough to hit a players head its not going to get over that defender anyway.

Frost definitely has to work on redzone play calling because if its not working then he needs to figure it out, but it looks like plays are there he just doesnt have the players to make them. Thats still on him to know his personnel enough to work with what he has but I dont feel like it is far off. We just dont have a QB with touch that can make the throws we need to in the endzone and they were shooting gaps and destroying the option game we were trying run. Maybe McCaffrey and Martinez have been hitting those in practice so Frost felt confident or maybe he is trying to force plays that he doesnt have the QB to make. On the drive with McCaffrey pick we have 2 plays where Vokolek is in position to get a TD. The pick was simply a bad pass that may have been picked off if it didnt hit the lineman. If he puts that pass on the money on the back line we score easy, and the PI is going to be caught if he doesnt get his head ripped off. On the 2nd drive where we had to settle for a fg Vokolek was also in position to score a TD twice. One play was pretty much the same as the one where he got his head ripped off but Martinez threw it out of bounds and gave him no chance. The other was that like double post where Allen ran the underneath route and he just threw it out of the endzone. The play where Martinez gets picked off trying to hit Allen in the endzone also had him open but it was late and the DB makes a great play to break off and get back to that ball. It looked like a designed pocket move and then throw back like the play that was the dagger in the Minnesota game a couple years ago. That was probably too close to the goalline to call a play that takes that long unless you think the QB can hit it perfect or you trust Allen to win a jump ball. I feel like that should be a play we call with Betts or Manning and from like the opponent 40 not the 25 or wherever we tried from. Frost has really not been the head man that long and he is learning as he goes. He definitely is making mistakes that are costing us right now, but I feel like he has a base that can and I think will work when he figures it out.

WR play was the big difference between the two teams that I could tell. Whether that's development, recruiting, previous staff, bad luck or some combination of all those I can't tell.

Damn Martinez threw it too hard at someones hands again!!

I gaurantee they don't call a holding like that vs northwestern