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Looking at the 2009 NFL draft, there were several shorter DT's taken. Here are the first 10 DT's taken:

In the fourth round Indy took this guy:

4. Terrance Taylor, Michigan 6-0, 306 Round 4/5: Not as heavy as an ideal nose tackle, but he’s a short, strong player who plays with the leverage to man the nose in a 3-4. Was power-lifting champion in high school in Michigan and also won a state wrestling title.

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Looking at the 2009 NFL draft, there were several shorter DT's taken. Here are the first 10 DT's taken:

 

B.J. Raji - Selected 9th by Greenbay is 6' 1.5" tall

Peria Jerry - Selected 24th by Atlanta is 6' 1.75" tall

Evander Hood - Selected 32nd by Pittsburg is 6' 2.875" tall

Ron Brace - Selected 40th by New England is 6' 3" tall

Fili Moala - Selected 56th by Indianapolis is 6' 4" tall

Sen'Derrick Marks - Selected 62nd by Tennessee is 6' 1.75" tall

Alex Magee - Selected 67th by Kansas City is 6' 2.625" tall

Jarron Gilbert - Selected 68th by Chicago is 6' 5.25" tall

Terrance Knighton - Selected 72nd by Jacksonville is 6' 3" tall

Roy Miller - Selected 81st by Tampa Bay is 6' 1.25" tall

Nice research. Of course as a ~16-18 year old, he is still growing. As far as weight, a shorter DT can play with less weight as leverage comes into play.

 

Regardless of what we all think, when he camps at Nebraska, we will find out what we need to know. If he does not get offered after camp, assume he doesn't quite measure up to Nebraska's needs.

 

I imagine UNO (among many other smaller programs) would love to have him so I think he won't be interested in walking on. My guess is this being a small class definitely hurts his chances; where he might have found a spot to fill out a 25-30 guy class.

I agree with that, it is too bad to. Maybe he will forgo other options to be a Preferred Walk On?

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big discrepency in his size. somewhere between 210-260 makes a lot of difference and being only 6' or a tad less will limit his ability to play as a linemen. too slow to play LB, too short to play DE or interior linemen, a blocking FB, is about all i can project him as.....who knows...

 

Glenn Dorsey is 6-foot or shorter, he did all right. He does need to bulk up, but the height isn't as big of an issue in the middle of the line, it could actually help him with leverage.

 

Dorsey measured in at 6'1 at the combine.

 

Coleman's problem isn't that he is lacking talent, he just has no position on the next level. He's a good HS player that just doesn't project for us at the next level.

 

The biggest thing is that he just does not have that much projection to add weight to his frame. He might be in the Sam McGuffie category of someone who maxed out their body in HS leaving little to work with on the next level. And that's no fault of his own, just that his body cannot hold the extra weight while playing at a high level.

 

He could be a good FB for someone though. And if Zimmerer had not gotten his offer last year, Coleman really could have an offer by now.

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Coleman's problem isn't that he is lacking talent, he just has no position on the next level. He's a good HS player that just doesn't project for us at the next level.

 

The biggest thing is that he just does not have that much projection to add weight to his frame. He might be in the Sam McGuffie category of someone who maxed out their body in HS leaving little to work with on the next level. And that's no fault of his own, just that his body cannot hold the extra weight while playing at a high level.

 

 

<_< Doesn't this contradict points in our friendly genetics argument? Never mind, anyway if he truely doesn't project to be able to put on weight then he won't get more than a walk on shot at NU.

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I think Ron Coleman would make an excellent FB. People I know say that Coleman is about 5'10", which for a FB is absolutely fine.

 

But a 5'10" 290-300 pound DT? You've got to be kidding. :rollin

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Well its not like he would have to get up to 290 or 300 lbs. You can't tell me Ty Steinkhuler was more than 280 last year and he did just fine next to Suh. If Coleman is playing next to Baker Steinkhuler or someone of his caliber I think Coleman playing at 270 or 280 would be able to excel. Now if he can even get up to that and be able to move is another story.

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I would imagine they will be taking a very good look at him in camp to get a better idea of how he projects for the next level. Maybe he has a growth-spurt left in him.

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Well its not like he would have to get up to 290 or 300 lbs. You can't tell me Ty Steinkhuler was more than 280 last year and he did just fine next to Suh. If Coleman is playing next to Baker Steinkhuler or someone of his caliber I think Coleman playing at 270 or 280 would be able to excel. Now if he can even get up to that and be able to move is another story.

 

Well sure, but Ty Steinkuhler is 6'3". There's quite a substantial difference between 5'10" and 6'3".

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Well its not like he would have to get up to 290 or 300 lbs. You can't tell me Ty Steinkhuler was more than 280 last year and he did just fine next to Suh. If Coleman is playing next to Baker Steinkhuler or someone of his caliber I think Coleman playing at 270 or 280 would be able to excel. Now if he can even get up to that and be able to move is another story.

 

Well sure, but Ty Steinkuhler is 6'3". There's quite a substantial difference between 5'10" and 6'3".

I think as we pointed out above, if he is close to 6' height doesn't seem to be as big of an issue for DTs anymore. Is 5' 10" too short, I don't know but you definately don't need to be 6' 3" or taller to DT in CFB nor the pros anymore. Question is can he put on the requisite weight and maintain speed?

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Coleman's problem isn't that he is lacking talent, he just has no position on the next level. He's a good HS player that just doesn't project for us at the next level.

 

The biggest thing is that he just does not have that much projection to add weight to his frame. He might be in the Sam McGuffie category of someone who maxed out their body in HS leaving little to work with on the next level. And that's no fault of his own, just that his body cannot hold the extra weight while playing at a high level.

 

 

<_< Doesn't this contradict points in our friendly genetics argument? Never mind, anyway if he truely doesn't project to be able to put on weight then he won't get more than a walk on shot at NU.

 

Nope. Coleman has the ability to gain speed, but he cannot put on size. He can put on size, but then he loses all agility and becomes a stiff.

 

Football is easy to dress out times and such during a combine, but it's harder finding that middle ground to play in a game to combine all those traits which would be the problem with Coleman.

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wow, this got scientific, eh? i suspect he gets some good wrestling offers, that may be where he can excel, as opposed to football at the

D-1 level. we shall just have to wait and see.

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wow, this got scientific, eh? i suspect he gets some good wrestling offers, that may be where he can excel, as opposed to football at the

D-1 level. we shall just have to wait and see.

I am sure Manning would be thrilled to have him. I guess it depends on how badly he wants to play College FB, UNO?

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I talked to someone from North High a couple of days ago who said virtually no one is looking at him as a DT. He also said Notre Dame has showed interest at FB. FYI

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I talked to someone from North High a couple of days ago who said virtually no one is looking at him as a DT. He also said Notre Dame has showed interest at FB. FYI

Maybe if he does/did well in this NU camp as a DT it will drudge up some interest. Maybe Bo should see if Trev and Co are interested?

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Waiting game for Coleman

 

Recruiting Notebook: Nebraska tells Coleman to be patient

 

The biggest question going into Nebraska's football camp this week still doesn't have an answer.

 

Omaha North junior Ron Coleman said he didn't hear one way or the other if an offer will be coming from NU, although the big man said he feels good about where he stands with the Huskers after his day in Lincoln.

 

“I was happy with the way everything went,” Coleman said.

 

Vikings coach Larry Martin, who was in Lincoln to work at the camp, said NU coaches counseled Coleman to be patient.

 

“They're in their evaluation process,” Martin said. “I thought Ron had an outstanding camp. I know they were impressed.”

 

Martin said Coleman showed off his “high motor and great technique” in his time at the camp.

 

“He was in the front of the line for every drill and went after every chance he could,” Martin said. “He did nothing to hurt his value or stock at camp, I can tell you that. If anything, he upped it.”

 

Some have questioned his size. Coleman said he was measured at 6-foot and 250 pounds.

 

After playing linebacker as a sophomore and on the defensive line as a junior, Coleman said he spent the entire camp on the line.

 

“That's where they want me to play,” he said. “It was a lot of drills, a lot of foot and handwork. And I didn't lose any of the 1-on-1 stuff. Camp went real good.”

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I talked to someone from North High a couple of days ago who said virtually no one is looking at him as a DT. He also said Notre Dame has showed interest at FB. FYI

Maybe if he does/did well in this NU camp as a DT it will drudge up some interest. Maybe Bo should see if Trev and Co are interested?

 

I really don't see him at UNO. Kid is an awesome wrestler. While football is his preference I would bet he'd wrestle for a major program rather than play DivII football.

 

I don't know if he'll get an offer to Neb but I think he should at least get some love from somebody like Wyoming, Ohio, or Iowa State.

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I talked to someone from North High a couple of days ago who said virtually no one is looking at him as a DT. He also said Notre Dame has showed interest at FB. FYI

Maybe if he does/did well in this NU camp as a DT it will drudge up some interest. Maybe Bo should see if Trev and Co are interested?

 

I really don't see him at UNO. Kid is an awesome wrestler. While football is his preference I would bet he'd wrestle for a major program rather than play DivII football.

 

I don't know if he'll get an offer to Neb but I think he should at least get some love from somebody like Wyoming, Ohio, or Iowa State.

ohio fans are looking at him and so are some of the buffalo fans.

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Coleman wasn't even listed on Scout's Top 5 NE recruits list. They had S Tyler Evans listed as 2 behind A Rod. LOL yea that's right... Nebraska TOP 5...! Today they also released their Georgia Top 100 list. Just goes to show you how much of a recruiting wasteland we are in geographically, in Scouts' opinion.

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I read an interview of Ron Coleman at the end of last year in which Coleman told the reporter that Nebraska was recruiting him and Pelini said to him he didn't care how tall a guy was, if he was good enough to play DT then that's where he would play. Obviously that doesn't mean that he will be offered a scholarship, or even that he will end up at D tackle if he does, but it certainly shows that Coleman knows where Bo stands.

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Published Friday December 4, 2009

 

WRESTLING

 

Coleman leads North to tournament win

 

By Nick Rubek

WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER

« High Schools

 

 

It was Ron Coleman's one shining moment, song and all.

 

But the Omaha North senior couldn't wait to share the spotlight.

 

Coleman wasted little time after the 100th victory of his career — a pin of Omaha Creighton Prep's Jeff Uher in the heavyweight finals Friday at the Vern Ekfelt Invitational — to find team manager Brian Slobotski. Coleman put his gold medal around the neck of Slobotski, aka “Big B,” who suffers from muscular dystrophy.

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“I'm sure it was an honor for him,” Coleman said, “but really the honor was all mine. I really wanted to win tonight for Big B. He never frowns, never complains. He's always there for us.”

 

The classy gesture capped a good night for the Vikings. North crowned only two champions, but moved seven into the finals to take the team title.

 

Coleman and RaVaughn Perkins won titles for North. Omaha Central and Millard North each crowned three champions, while Omaha Skutt — the winner of the past 13 Class B state titles — had a pair of winners.

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I'm curious if anyone has heard if Coleman has been offered a spot to walk-on. I would assume that the coaches would love to have him walk-on, but there has been very little word. According to Rivals he has no offers for football right now. It would be nice to know if he is leaning toward accepting a wrestling scholarship if he doesn't get any offers. I would find it hard to believe that he hasn't at least recieved some offers from FCS schools, but maybe rivals just doesn't know about them or list them.

 

I love this kids heart. I am rooting for him to end up a Husker. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

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I'm curious if anyone has heard if Coleman has been offered a spot to walk-on. I would assume that the coaches would love to have him walk-on, but there has been very little word. According to Rivals he has no offers for football right now. It would be nice to know if he is leaning toward accepting a wrestling scholarship if he doesn't get any offers. I would find it hard to believe that he hasn't at least recieved some offers from FCS schools, but maybe rivals just doesn't know about them or list them.

 

I love this kids heart. I am rooting for him to end up a Husker. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

It will be interesting to see what offers he gets in wrestling.

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I'm curious if anyone has heard if Coleman has been offered a spot to walk-on. I would assume that the coaches would love to have him walk-on, but there has been very little word. According to Rivals he has no offers for football right now. It would be nice to know if he is leaning toward accepting a wrestling scholarship if he doesn't get any offers. I would find it hard to believe that he hasn't at least recieved some offers from FCS schools, but maybe rivals just doesn't know about them or list them.

 

I love this kids heart. I am rooting for him to end up a Husker. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

It will be interesting to see what offers he gets in wrestling.

I really don't like to post unless I know something that most don't that is NOT personal. Since I go to school with the guy, and I have been wrestling with him since I was seven, (I am nowhere near as good as he is fwiw) I thought I might let you know some stuff. He is no doubt the hardest worker I have ever seen. Before high school he just didn't have IT, he was an 8 time youth wrestling champ, but he was 5-8 189, and I swear to you over the summer, he shot up to 5-10 210, with losing his flab and maximizing his frame. He started varsity freshman year, he is a weight room freak. I have lifted with him before and I swear to you, I believe he will be able to bench 450 and squat 525.

 

His work ethic is nonstop, though I do doubt he can run a 4.7 like the "rumor" that is going around. He is more a solid 5, have I said anything about his work ethic yet? Well I have seen the man do a backflip from the floor, to a step up style ledge in the main hallway. I am 5'11 and he is roughly the same height, though he is about 100 pounds heavier, as he is at 245. BTW he has a GREAT work ethic :) .

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This to me is the PERFECT canidate for a walk on spot. Athletic, home grown, hard working multi sport star. It seems like this is the guy we have been offering instead of getting them to walk on and, to me, to get back to the dominate team we are all used to these are the kids that we HAVE to get to walk on to get our advantage back.

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I'm curious if anyone has heard if Coleman has been offered a spot to walk-on. I would assume that the coaches would love to have him walk-on, but there has been very little word. According to Rivals he has no offers for football right now. It would be nice to know if he is leaning toward accepting a wrestling scholarship if he doesn't get any offers. I would find it hard to believe that he hasn't at least recieved some offers from FCS schools, but maybe rivals just doesn't know about them or list them.

 

I love this kids heart. I am rooting for him to end up a Husker. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

It will be interesting to see what offers he gets in wrestling.

I really don't like to post unless I know something that most don't that is NOT personal. Since I go to school with the guy, and I have been wrestling with him since I was seven, (I am nowhere near as good as he is fwiw) I thought I might let you know some stuff. He is no doubt the hardest worker I have ever seen. Before high school he just didn't have IT, he was an 8 time youth wrestling champ, but he was 5-8 189, and I swear to you over the summer, he shot up to 5-10 210, with losing his flab and maximizing his frame. He started varsity freshman year, he is a weight room freak. I have lifted with him before and I swear to you, I believe he will be able to bench 450 and squat 525.

 

His work ethic is nonstop, though I do doubt he can run a 4.7 like the "rumor" that is going around. He is more a solid 5, have I said anything about his work ethic yet? Well I have seen the man do a backflip from the floor, to a step up style ledge in the main hallway. I am 5'11 and he is roughly the same height, though he is about 100 pounds heavier, as he is at 245. BTW he has a GREAT work ethic :) .

 

Nice first post Cornfed and thanks for the insight! These are the stories that I love to hear about. These are the guys who make Nebraska football. I really hope that Coleman becomes a part of it. I couldn't blame him if he didn't if he had school paid for somewhere, but I would love to see him a husker.

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I watched this kid wrestle at Skutt this past week and he is incredibly nimble and light on his feet for such a big guy. I have also watched him play football and thought he was a tremendous runner. I think if this kid were to go to NU as a fullback and they could pull about 25 pounds of fat off of him he would be an absolute killer between the tackles runner. Oh yeah, one hell of a wrestler too.

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I watched this kid wrestle at Skutt this past week and he is incredibly nimble and light on his feet for such a big guy. I have also watched him play football and thought he was a tremendous runner. I think if this kid were to go to NU as a fullback and they could pull about 25 pounds of fat off of him he would be an absolute killer between the tackles runner. Oh yeah, one hell of a wrestler too.

Fwiw I was the kid at 145 who got stuck. <_< . Tommorow at metro's I will try to squeeze some info :)

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Ron Coleman beamed when the question was asked. When does the Omaha North senior and All-Nebraska running back anticipate making a decision on his college plans?

 

“Soon,” he said with a smile. “Real soon.”

 

The 5-foot-11, 250-pound Coleman said he plans on taking a trip to Southeast Missouri State (a Football Championship Subdivision, or formerly I-AA school) and then possibly Division II national champion Northwest Missouri State. Although he hasn't ruled out going the Football Bowl Subdivision route, formerly I-A, with Kansas showing interest of late, Coleman said he's just fine with taking the Division II route.

 

“Almost half of NFL stars out there come from Division II schools,” Coleman said. “It's not about where you go. It's about what you do when you get there. I'm going to be just fine no matter where I go. That's just me.”

 

Kansas and new coach Turner Gill could play a part in things with Coleman, who has offers from UNO and North Dakota State. Most schools are looking at him as a defensive prospect, on the line or at linebacker.

 

Coleman said he expects to decide before signing day.

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Ron Coleman beamed when the question was asked. When does the Omaha North senior and All-Nebraska running back anticipate making a decision on his college plans?

 

“Soon,” he said with a smile. “Real soon.”

 

The 5-foot-11, 250-pound Coleman said he plans on taking a trip to Southeast Missouri State (a Football Championship Subdivision, or formerly I-AA school) and then possibly Division II national champion Northwest Missouri State. Although he hasn't ruled out going the Football Bowl Subdivision route, formerly I-A, with Kansas showing interest of late, Coleman said he's just fine with taking the Division II route.

 

“Almost half of NFL stars out there come from Division II schools,” Coleman said. “It's not about where you go. It's about what you do when you get there. I'm going to be just fine no matter where I go. That's just me.”

 

Kansas and new coach Turner Gill could play a part in things with Coleman, who has offers from UNO and North Dakota State. Most schools are looking at him as a defensive prospect, on the line or at linebacker.

 

Coleman said he expects to decide before signing day.

 

IMO, if he went here, I see the staff shaving some weight off of him and increasing his explosiveness to use him as a FB. He has good hands and is strong, would be great to have him throw blocks down field.

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Ahhhh, I got an inside look at the world of recruiting today. Burger had a NWMS pamphlet and he was flipping through the pages before practice, then a recruiter from SEMS came and saw him with the pamphlet and we all almost died of laughter. He told me today that he intends to commit next week fwiw

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It's too bad that Coleman is not going to be N. I don't blame him one bit, but I really believe that had he graduated during the 90's when we used our fullbacks a ton he would have warranted a scholarship due to his amazing work ethic. I believe that he would have reached legendary status. I know that we never gave schollies to FBs, but I see Coleman as that kind of kid that you couldn't just let walk away from your program. There is no way that this staff could offer him a scholly with as little as we use a fullback and with limited schollies this year. I know we could have tried him at DT but trying to put that much weight on him would be a risk. Too bad IMO. Best of luck to Coleman.

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