Bought off refs = Texas win.

[BigWillie]

 

The clock issue, the ball does hit the ground with time on the clock, that issue seems to be not argued by the most ardent Cornhusker supporters but the issue of why it was reviewed is the issue. I think for both schools sake the NCAA or the Big 12 should really make a strong statement for both schools about this today. If the play is reviewable then it is owed to your shool to clarify the rule it should be explained to Texas as well to give them the peace of mind that they won fairly. If it should not have been reviewed then let the sh#t storm continue.

 

Two things about that ..

 

The clock does NOT stop until the referee blows his whistle to signal the play dead.

 

The play was NOT dead and could NOT be reversed until the football hit something out of bounds (i.e., person or object) in this situation. The ground is not enough to reverse that play. The officials stated they clearly saw the ball hit the railing of the box seats which is why they put a second on the clock.

 

Now after looking at that video over and over, there is simply no way an official can look at that and tell me that definitely he can see that football hit a round bar, in between a crowd of people, from completely across the field with a camera. Absolutely no way.

[naturalNE]

Maybe there was 1 second left, maybe there wasn't. However, the biggest thing that angers me is the inconsistency among refs and conferences. Exhibit A is from the beginning of this season, if there's 1 second left in our game then there is 1 second left in this game:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UNYLt_ptyM#t=4m5s

 

They never reviewed if there was time left, hell I don't even remember much of a dispute. However, its more so the inconsistency among officials. I get that they can't all be the same all the time, every time, but when you call pass interference for the defender looking at the receiver, it gets fishy. It's not illegal to look at the defender.

nice job zebras I love ur inconsistency, you stole r game!!!

[sewardite4NU]

I don't know... But the Big XII instant replay rules are pretty clear. Simply gong to review to change an "eggregious" time keeping error (I'm not sure 1 extra second running off out of 3600 seconds is eggregious) is simply not allowed by rule. Unless of course, they were stating that the result of the play -- an incomplete pass -- was incorrect.

 

On that drive I think the zebras got the previous calls right...

 

Kicking a kickoff out of bounds places the ball on the 40 yard line.

 

A horse collar tackle is a 15 yard personal foul.

 

And McCoy let the ball fly out of his hands and it landed out of bounds with about a second left. The clock operator responded in whatever way they did, and the clock ended up on 0:00. However, nothing in the Big XII rules allows this to go instant replay review.

 

If the officials on the field fixed this without the help of the booth, then there is absolutely no problem with correctly adding a second back on the clock. However, I don't think this is how this went down -- and I think a lot more people should be outraged, even though the Huskers appeared to be trying to give Texas the game.

 

My 2 cents...

 

Legal Dictionary

 

Main Entry: egre·gious

Pronunciation: i-'grE-j&s

Function: adjective

: extremely and conspicuously bad

 

One second out of 3600 may not be "egregious" but the final second ticking away when it obviously should not have is in my opinion. Texas did everything they had to do to win and it almost got taken away by the error of someone not on the field. McCoy was VERY VERY VERY close to screwing it all up for them. He says he knew there was gonna be time left after he lobbed the ball out of bounds. BS. He had no idea he was running that low on time. Otherwise he rockets it at some WR's feet or take a knee and calls time out. But the point is they had 1 second left fair an square. Can you imagine what would happen if we were in Texas's position and they don't reset the clock? We'd be just as livid. Remember the 30-3 win in Boulder against Colorado? I believe that was the game where right before half we drove into field goal range and spiked it with 3 seconds left. An obvious 3 second left. Ball hits the ground, refs blow the whistle, tick tick tick, half over, Barnett whines, and we don't get our 3 points. Thank God that play didn't come back to bite us.

 

I've said many times there was probably many 1 second errors throughout the 4th quarter (and the whole game for that matter) that added up to several seconds being added or subtracted. Maybe it should have been at 0. Maybe there were really 5 seconds left. We won't ever know unless someone goes back and times the whole 4th quarter. I know someone will, and congratulations to you. Amazingly awesome life. The clock is never going to be perfectly operated. It's a huge factor in every close game. The officials did what was right at that time. Enough about a conspiracy to get Texas into the 'ship. If we win, us and Texas both make a BCS bowl gaining more money to be shared equally throughout the conference (at least that's what I heard someone on the postgame show say). Enough about it being "illegal" to reset the clock. It wasn't. The NCAA football rulebook says it can be. End of story. We lose. Life moves on. We kick ass in the Holiday Bowl and get some revenge against Arizona (I'm assuming we play them) for the year they beat us in the same bowl. These games will start to go our way. Hell, maybe these games don't even happen because we're up by more than a score with time winding down. Anyways, that was an amazing game. At least we're competing for the whole conference championship now. We were a win against Texas Tech away last year from being in the championship game I believe. This year we make it and lose on a literal last second field goal. We're close. We'll get over that hump in the near future. Believe it.

[jayhawker]

let me just remind you guys of 2005 and KU playing TX. There were many phantom calls and a very big BS offensive pass interference call against KU that cost us the game. It was the game where Mangino accused the B12 of cheating to allow TX a chance at going undefeated. I don't remember now how much he got fined for it, but it was all I could think about last night while watching the game. Those last two PI calls down the sideline was utter BS.

[I See Red People]

great post, stewardite4NU.

[sewardite4NU]

I'm thinking all the "refs f'd up threads" need to get merged. There's too many threads to read and respond to saying they were right.

 

Everything was done correctly on the final drive. Sure there were other questionable calls, but to think that 1 second shouldn't have been put back on the clock is completely wrong. The refs were right according to the replays they had.

[HuskerTex]

Straight from the horse's mouth... The play clock is not allowed to be reviewed under Big 12 Rules UNLESS there is something else being reviewed on the play...

 

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbm...;ATCLID=1522906

 

Instant Replay Guide

 

All Division I-A conferences have requested a uniform system of replay to be included in the rules book. As this is permissive, not mandated, the rule would allow for growth without forcing all institutions and conferences to use video review. The committee notes that overall game times increased by two minutes in Division I-A, with several conferences that used replay reporting shorter game times.

 

Section 1. Definition

Definition

Article 1. Instant Reply is a system utilizing electronic means to review and assist game officials with certain on-field decisions as listed in Section 3.

 

Section 2. Eligibility for Instant Replay

Participation

Article 1. a. Any member institution may use instant replay. This rule is permissive, not a requirement. If instant replay is used, it must be used in full compliance with this rule.

b. For any non-conference game, if the home team is using instant replay, the visiting team does not have the option of declining its use for that game. If the home team is not using instant replay, the visiting team does not have the option of requesting that it be used in that game.

 

Section 3. Reviewable Plays

Side Line, Goal Line, End Line

Article 1. Reviewable plays governed by a sideline, goal line or an end line include:

a. Scoring plays, including a runner in possession of a live ball breaking the plane of a goal line.

b. A pass ruled complete, incomplete or intercepted at a side line, goal line or an end line.

c. A runner or pass receiver ruled in or out of bounds.

d. Recovery of a loose ball in or out of bounds in the field of play or an end zone.

Passes

Article 2. Reviewable plays involving passes include:

a. A pass ruled complete, incomplete or intercepted anywhere in the field of play or an end zone.

b. A legal forward pass touched by an ineligible receiver.

c. A legal forward pass touched by a defensive player.

d. A fumble ruled on the part of a potential passer. (Note: If the on-field ruling is forward pass and the pass is incomplete, the play is not reviewable).

e. A forward pass or forward handing ruled when a runner is beyond the line of scrimmage.

f. A forward pass or forward handing ruled after a change of possession.

g. A pass ruled forward or backward when thrown from behind the line of scrimmage. (Exception: If the pass is ruled forward and is incomplete, the play is not reviewable).

Miscellaneous

Article 3. Miscellaneous reviewable plays include:

a. A runner judged to have been not down by rule. (Note: If a runner is ruled down, the play is not reviewable).

b. A runner’s forward progress with respect to a first down.

c. Touching of any type kick by any player.

d. The number of players participating by either team during a live ball.

e. A scrimmage kicker beyond the line of scrimmage when the ball is kicked.

f. Clock adjustment when a ruling on the field is reversed.

g. A fumble recovery by a Team A player during fourth down or a try and before any change of possession.

 

Plays Not Reviewable

Article 4. No other plays or officiating decisions are reviewable. Section 4. Instant Replay Personnel, Equipment and Location

Personnel

Article 1. Instant replay personnel shall consist of the number of persons needed to operate the replay equipment within the necessary time constraints. A minimum of three persons shall be utilized to insure that all plays are reviewed in an efficient and a timely manner. Such persons are normally referred to as replay official, communicator and technician. Additional persons may be used as needed.

Equipment

Article 2. The type of equipment used to carry out necessary instant replay duties shall be determined by each conference or member institution utilizing instant replay.

Location

Article 3. a. All equipment used in making a decision during the replay process and the personnel using that equipment shall be located in a separate, secure location in the press box. This room shall not be available or accessible to any person not directly involved in instant replay.

b. Additional telephonic equipment needed to allow instant replay personnel to communicate with the game referee when a game has been stopped for a play review shall be located on a side line near the field of play and preferably outside a team area. Such equipment shall provide the game referee and the replay official a secure and private means of communication.

 

Section 5. Initiating the Replay Process

Game Stop

Article 1. There are two methods to stop a game to review a ruling on the field.

a. The replay official and the crew shall review every play of a game. The replay official may stop a game at any time before the ball is next put in play whenever:

 

1. There is reasonable evidence to believe an error was made in the initial on-field ruling.

2. The play is reviewable.

3. Any reversal of an on-field ruling, which would result from indisputable video evidence, would have a direct, competitive impact on the game.

 

b. The head coach of either team may request that the game be stopped and a play be reviews by challenging the on-field ruling one time during a game.

1. A coach initiates this challenge by taking a team time out before the ball is next put in play and informing the referee that the coach is challenging the ruling of the previous play.

2. After a review has been completed, if the on-field ruling is reversed, that team’s time out will not be charged.

3. After a review has been completed and the on-field ruling is not reversed, the charged team time out counts as one of the three permitted that team for that half.

4. A head coach may not challenge a ruling in which the game was stopped and a decision has already been made by the replay official.

5. If a head coach requests a team time out to challenge an on-field ruling and the play being challenged is not reviewable, the time out shall count as one of the three permitted the team during that half of the game.

6. A head coach may not challenge an on-field ruling if all the team’s timeouts have been used for that half. If all team timeouts have been used and a head coach signals for, and is granted, a time out, a delay penalty will be assessed.

7. Each head coach shall be permitted one challenge per game.

 

When to Stop a Game

Article 2. a. A game may be stopped, either by the instant replay official or by a head coach’s challenge at any time before the ball is next put in play.

b. No game official may request that a game be stopped and a play be reviewed.

 

Section 6. Reviewing an On-field Ruling

Procedures

Article 1. a. When a game is to be stopped either by the replay official or by a head coach’s challenge, the designated officials on the field will be notified by a buzzer system or other appropriate means.

b. The referee shall announce that the ruling on the field is being reviewed. If the game has been stopped due to a head coach’s challenge, the referee will so indicate in the announcement.

c. All reviews shall be based upon video evidence provided by and coming directly from the televised production of the game. If there is no television available, all video pictures shall come from the in-stadium video board production.

d. After the referee has conferred with the replay official and the review process has been completed, the referee shall make one of the following announcements:

 

1. If the video evidence confirms the on-field ruling:

“After review, the ruling on the field is confirmed.”

2. If there is no indisputable (conclusive) evidence to reverse the on-field ruling:

“After review, there is no conclusive video evidence to change the ruling on the field. Therefore, the ruling stands.”

3. If the on-field ruling is reversed:

“After review, there is indisputable (conclusive) video evidence that . . . [followed by a brief description of the video evidence]. Therefore, . . . [followed by a brief description of what the reversal means].

 

e.If a ruling is reversed, the replay official shall supply the referee with all pertinent data as needed (next down, distance, yard line, position of the ball, clock status/adjustment) in order to resume play under the correct game conditions.

 

Time Restrictions

Article 2. a. Although each head coach is limited to one challenge per game, there is no restriction on the number of times the replay official may stop a game to review an on-field ruling.

b. If the game is stopped to review a play, there is no time limit for the review process.

 

Section 7. Reversing an On-Field Ruling

Criterion for Reversal

Article 1. In order to reverse an on-field ruling, the replay official must see indisputable video evidence through one or more video replays provided to the monitor.

 

YES they CAN adjust the game clock, but only if something else is being reviewed... nowhere does it even hint (grey area) at reviewing only the game clock to be allowed...

 

Nothing will come of it... but just another bullet for you conspiracy theorists...

 

So, what would have happened if Bo and the team just continued to walk off the field and not participate in that illegal last play? We probably would have still lost (by forfeit), but the Big XII would have had to really bend hoops to explain why. It's pretty easy for them to cover it up now. I know Bo wasn't thinking like this at the time, of course, but it would have been interesting if we'd just claimed the game was over and we are the rightful winners and it's up to the Big XII to blatantly take it away from us.

 

Just wondering why no reporters are all over this, especially ours.

[Husker_x]

The point here isn't that Nebraska is going to get their championship back. The point is the bastards owe us an explanation, in detail, and very quickly. If the play was non-reviewable then we won the game. It may be on a sh**ty call, but it's certainly no worse than the pass interference call earlier in the drive which arguably brought about this situation in the first place.

 

Nebraska and Texas were equals in this matchup. If we played the game ten times I have a feeling it would turn out close every time. What matters here is that rules aren't being made up on the fly to give an unfair advantage to homers who just want to see a Big XII team in the title game. Things like this need to be spelled out, and when epic fails like this occur, it is the responsibility of the Big XII and its officials to give a satisfactory explanation to the coaches, players, and fans.

[Husker_x]

double

[EbylHusker]

The whistles blew before the clock ran to zero...I'm pretty sure that was the case from the replay. That alone should be enough to allow them to reset the clock.

[Touchdown Tommie]

Texas is a bunch of cheaters. Ever since the Texas schools disrupted the Big 8 it has been everything to do about them. Why the hell was the game allowed to be played in Texas? How about a neutral site game? It is just ridiculous that they can be allowed to run the conference and have everything go their way.

[nebraskared]

I am pretty sure that Tom and Harvey will want to take a look at the rules and chat to the Big12.

 

Nothing will come of this as the NCAA, BCS and Fox have dodged a massive bullet to get their 2nd choice dream match up. Alabama-Cincy would have been a disaster.

 

Matt Davidson got it right when he asked why we snapped the ball with 11 seconds left on one of the plays on our final drive.

[EbylHusker]

And really, is that how you all want to win? By screwing over Texas when it was obvious even in real time that the play was over before the clock ran out? Nice...

[Ohio Pete]

If Suh isn't the beast he is, McCoy isn't forced to throw it away and he dicks around with the ball another second and the game is over.

[HANC]

Thank you.......... I didnt start a thread (topic), but I was wondering why we snapped the ball "early" with 11 sec too. It was obvious that NU was going to settle for the fg attempt. If he runs the clock down, (which has been typical for NU), then those few ...approx. 25 sec.....would have made all the difference in the world at the very end.