kchusker_chris Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 How exactly is the "potential" lockout impacting this years players? They'll still get that MASSIVE guarentee. The only thing I see it affecting is if they have to sit out a year and can't aclimate into the NFL as well the following year after so much time off. I kind of thought one of the major things the owners were pushing for was a reduction in rookie pay. If that's the case it would be better to get out this year than next when whatever compromise they make is in place. ? I don't follow the NFL that closely so I'm just curious why everyone always mentions the CBA when talking about juniors leaving early. Quote Link to comment
PaulCrewe Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 He had such a quiet season. So many of the questions like "can he do it without Suh at his side?" went unanswered. 70 tackles, 17 TFLs, 9.5 sacks. Very solid season - but when you look at the fact that David had 152 tackles and Gomes had 99 it makes you realize how many runners were getting past the line of scrimage. Well these "quiet" stats, 32 tackles, 6 sacks, 15.5 TFL, two pass breakups, and one fumble recovery were loud enough to get 63 million over five years and the third pick in the draft. Gerald McCoy put those numbers up in the same defensive system of taking up blockers to free up LBs. guys guys breaking down how players will translate to the next level doesn't have that much to do with production especially on defense. its all about judging your potential based a combination of height/weight/40 time etc etc. Im not saying performance on the field doesnt count, clearly it does, but look at someone like graham harrell from texas tech. threw for 8 million yards over his career and nobody has heard of him since. Just dont get too hung up on stats My reply had nothing to with saying Crick's numbers vs McCoy's is a direct relation to how he'd be drafted. It is more to do with the quiet year. Any defensive lineman in the country would drool for a stat line like Crick had this year. The quiet year idea probably has more to with people's perception of him being Suh the Sequel like knapplc said. It's really funny how his stock and people's opinion of him has dropped this year though, when he put up almost mirror image stats that had scouts salivating. Quote Link to comment
mmmtodd Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 My reply had nothing to with saying Crick's numbers vs McCoy's is a direct relation to how he'd be drafted. It is more to do with the quiet year. Any defensive lineman in the country would drool for a stat line like Crick had this year. The quiet year idea probably has more to with people's perception of him being Suh the Sequel like knapplc said. It's really funny how his stock and people's opinion of him has dropped this year though, when he put up almost mirror image stats that had scouts salivating. ...and without the Suhnami next to him. Quote Link to comment
bbeerma2 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 You'd think players would relish the opportunity to take their game to the Big Ten and see a whole slew of new stadiums and play a whole set of new teams. Quote Link to comment
Minnesota_husker Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I think he is smart to take a look where he would go, and then ask basically what he would have to do, to get a better draft pick. I think Crick is a mid 3rd rounder at best right now, with the possibility of late 1st in his future. But injuries can de-rail that, so i understand him taking a look. Quote Link to comment
JTrain Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Where is he on Kiper's board? Quote Link to comment
GMoose Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Where is he on Kiper's board? Not on it anymore. He dropped off around the middle of the season, but that's when Kiper tends to be careful about putting undeclared underclassmen on there, but he has him as his 5th best non-senior defensive tackle. Quote Link to comment
HuskerFowler Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 gotta think with all the talent comming out that he wouldnt go til the 2nd round at earliet third at the latest. Puts up the same numbers next year or better..would be a first rounder. Alot of the talent is coming out in this years draft....should be a crazy first round. Quote Link to comment
mmmtodd Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 i cant remember who's list it was, but i saw him at 31 to the falcons if he comes out somewhere. see if i can dig it up. Quote Link to comment
Minnesota_husker Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 My buddy was walking behind Crick and a few other football players yesterday before the basketball game. He overheard Crick saying he was going to stay at Nebraska for another year because he was concerned about the lockout. Take it for what it's worth. Just passing along what he told me. Quote Link to comment
Skull&Bones Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Hope you're correct... Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 i cant remember who's list it was, but i saw him at 31 to the falcons if he comes out somewhere. see if i can dig it up. I saw a late-first-round list too. Can't tell you whose, or where. Quote Link to comment
Minnesota_husker Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 i cant remember who's list it was, but i saw him at 31 to the falcons if he comes out somewhere. see if i can dig it up. I saw a late-first-round list too. Can't tell you whose, or where. was it your mock draft Knappster.... YA DAMN LIAR Quote Link to comment
GMoose Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I really don't see him worse than late second. Nick Fairley will be the top D tackle, after him, Paea, Casey, Nevis, Powe, and Austin would all go before him for sure. In last year's draft, 10 D tackles went in the first two rounds, and he's definitely in the top 10 of DTs. I'm no Mel Kiper, but I think he could fit at end in a 3-4 also, which would help his stock a little. Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 He had such a quiet season. So many of the questions like "can he do it without Suh at his side?" went unanswered. 70 tackles, 17 TFLs, 9.5 sacks. Very solid season - but when you look at the fact that David had 152 tackles and Gomes had 99 it makes you realize how many runners were getting past the line of scrimage. That doesn't really tell the whole story, though. If I'm not mistaken, Terrell Farley led the team in tackles in 1995 and we had one of the best rushing defenses in the country that year. Pretty sure we held opponents to under 100 yards rushing a game that year. Plus, our defense is designed for the linemen to allow our backers to come up and make tackles. Suh was such a beast, however, that he was able to dominate despite what his role in the defense was supposed to be. Quote Link to comment
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