treyball3 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I personally can't believe that Carnes hasn't gotten more time. Especially late in the game last night. I haven't seen enough of him to know that he'll be better than Martinez, but can he really be worse? Sure, Taylor is averaging 1.6 rushing TDs per game and 1 passing TD a game, but what else is he averaging? 1 INT per game, 2 fumbles per game, multiple missed wide open receivers (with bad passes and also not seeing the open guy). The last two games, he's had 98 rushing yards on 32 carries. Taylor's only "skill" is his straight ahead speed. And he's not even able to utilize that anymore. I've read rumblings that Carnes may not be here next year, because he was told he would have a chance to earn the starting job on the field, but he hasn't had a chance. I'd be pissed too if I saw the starter playing like that, and I didn't get a chance. And this isn't a knee jerk reaction to last night's game. I've never been a fan of Martinez. I just don't see anything from him that makes me think he should be a QB. Every other team that was recruiting him felt the same way. With the schedule as it is, this is what I think needs to happen: Get Carnes significant time in a backup role against OSU. By significant, I mean close to half the game, wherever they can fit him in. Then, we have a week off and face a terrible Minnesota team. After the OSU game, Carnes needs to take all snaps for two weeks and be the starter for the Minnesota game, and going forward after that. That will be a good game for him to make his first start. The Martinez experiment is over. It's been a complete disaster. If Bo doesn't give up on this experiment, and give up on it NOW, then I question whether he is head coach material. I love Bo, but I just can't see how you can stick with Taylor at this time. Others will say that Martinez is the best we have. But I don't believe that, there's NO way that can be the best we have. If we don't go with Brion now, we may lose him to a transfer, and then we're really screwed. We have so few QBs already on this roster. And yes, I realize the defense played terrible also. If I was on the defense and I saw my QB play the way he does, all.the.time., I'd be down and playing crappy too. By no means, do I think that is the only problem with the defense, they have many. But the QB play does nothing to help it. Judging by some of the tweets of some of the players, it sounds like there are internal problems going on. A lot of this could be based on what players perceive to be favortism going on, and not playing the best guys. Sure, playing time is won in practice, but if those guys aren't getting it done during the game, then why not try someone else. Maybe they are guys that step up in game play and just don't show all their ability in practice. It certainly can't be any worse than the guys that are currently playing. I don't think the sky is falling... yet. But we're on a slippery slope here. How Bo and the team respond over the next few weeks will be telling. They should start by putting Carnes in and going from there. And for those of you that say "Martinez is only a sophomore, give him more time", how many freshman QBs have we played this year that look amazing. And that's just teams we've played. There are MANY freshman and sophomore QBs in the country that are playing well for there teams! Martinez just does't have "IT". It's time to see if Carnes does. 3 Quote Link to comment
Malth Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 And for those of you that say "Martinez is only a sophomore, give him more time", how many freshman QBs have we played this year that look amazing. And that's just teams we've played. There are MANY freshman and sophomore QBs in the country that are playing well for there teams! Martinez just does't have "IT". It's time to see if Carnes does. This is kind of how I feel about it. Yea, he's "new", but every QB we've faced so far this season appear to be light years ahead of him. He's still panicky, makes bad decisions, and doesn't protect the football very well. It's obvious he's made progress in certain areas, but overall I don't know how much faith I have in him to be our starting QB. 2 Quote Link to comment
Hercules Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I'd love to see Carnes play. Apparently he's the answer to all of our problems. Can't wait for him to completely turn our season around. 4 Quote Link to comment
okaive Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I could have sworn someone said that he wasn't on the roster for the Wisconsin game. Don't know if that is true or not, but if it is, it would be the most stupidest things ever done. Quote Link to comment
treyball3 Posted October 2, 2011 Author Share Posted October 2, 2011 I'd love to see Carnes play. Apparently he's the answer to all of our problems. Can't wait for him to completely turn our season around. I'm not saying Carnes is going to save the program. I'm saying it's obvious that Taylor is NOT the one, time to see if someone else is. He can't possibly be worse than Martinez... Quote Link to comment
treyball3 Posted October 2, 2011 Author Share Posted October 2, 2011 I could have sworn someone said that he wasn't on the roster for the Wisconsin game. Don't know if that is true or not, but if it is, it would be the most stupidest things ever done. I heard that Braylon Heard didn't make the trip. If they didn't bring Carnes, that's just bad planning! Quote Link to comment
n.e.husker Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I could have sworn someone said that he wasn't on the roster for the Wisconsin game. Don't know if that is true or not, but if it is, it would be the most stupidest things ever done. I heard that Braylon Heard didn't make the trip. If they didn't bring Carnes, that's just bad planning! Carnes was in madison, on the side line. Apparently Heard has an injury. Quote Link to comment
Blackshirt39 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I'd love to see Carnes play. Apparently he's the answer to all of our problems. Can't wait for him to completely turn our season around. Well either that or let the T-Tragic T-Train Wreck continue. Seriously how bad does a guy have to play to get benched? Quote Link to comment
sd'sker Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 t-mart is still developing, he needs his reps just as well. also, t-ragic, although clever, is unfair. he did not lose that game. wiscy was the better team and our coaches failed the players. it is what it is, and it should be a pretty interesting, maybe exciting, season. 1 Quote Link to comment
gratefullred Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Watching Martinez's throwing motion gives me gas. Quote Link to comment
n.e.husker Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 t-mart is still developing, he needs his reps just as well. also, t-ragic, although clever, is unfair. he did not lose that game. wiscy was the better team and our coaches failed the players. it is what it is, and it should be a pretty interesting, maybe exciting, season. Agreed, why would we call a game plan(that Beck and Bo both agreed on) that was a passing game. What happened to playing to your players strengths? Where was our run game in the second quarter? It looked great on the last drive of the game. Our best pass game may come off play action, whats wrong with that? 1 Quote Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 No way is it time to switch over to Carnes. Martinez is better than Carnes at this point of time and we have only lost ONE game. There is no need to call it a season because we got blown out by a dominant-should be national championship caliber team. If we have 5 losses (god let's hope not, this place might blow up) by the time Iowa rolls around, then I'm all for trying the Brion Carnes experiment. But not when we have 1 loss. Quote Link to comment
TheCheshireCat Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 When you throw three interceptions the way Martinez did, you should be benched. They weren't even close. It wasn't like the defenders made an aggressive move or the WRs didn't complete the route or Martinez didn't time it correctly. Those are errors that can be corrected. He threw it right the f#*k to them. The third one, the Wisconsin DB didn't even have to move. He sideslings it like he's Billy the f'ing Kid shooting from his hip. Watching him throw on the run is enough to raise even an adrenaline-junkie's blood pressure. He panics, tries to make a heroic, spectacular move, and ends up eating sh#t 9 times out of 10. He's not even a good runner. The only time he is dangerous is when there is a massive gap you could drive a truck through, and only because he has superior acceleration. He can't dodge, he can't weave, he can't run laterally for sh#t. He needs to be taking screen passes and zooming up the field, not launching sidearmed shitrockets. 7 Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 These coaches are so afraid to mess with Martinez's mentality. I think he is a mental wreck already. If he got benched it would just ruin him completely. Plus his daddy would be on the phone in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment
nhuskers5 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Missing open receivers happens to every quarterback. We as fans are asking for a perfect quarterback, and to get a good quarterback we are going to have to take some lumps. It amazes me that we are willing to let this guy contribute 75% of our offense (and be a big part of the reason we won) for 4 games prior to this, and at the first sign of adversity he faces, people want him canned for an unproven backup who has zero meaningful game experience. Mind boggling. 1 Quote Link to comment
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