GSG Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 For the love of all things holy, JJ. DO NOT CHANGE THAT AVATAR. EVER. Can I change mine? Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 http://www.slate.com..._it_s_done.html In a poignant blog post, Exodus International president Alan Chambers announced yesterday that the ex-gay ministry was shutting its doors, conceding that “reparative” therapy for gay people is ineffective and unhealthy. Chambers’ note took the form of an apology for the “shame,” “false hope,” and “trauma” he caused would-be converts, pleading for forgiveness from “ex-gay survivors”: Please know that I am deeply sorry. I am sorry for the pain and hurt many of you have experienced. I am sorry that some of you spent years working through the shame and guilt you felt when your attractions didn’t change. I am sorry we promoted sexual orientation change efforts and reparative theories about sexual orientation that stigmatized parents... I am sorry that I...failed to share publicly that the gay and lesbian people I know were every bit as capable of being amazing parents as the straight people that I know. I am sorry...that I callously celebrated the end of relationships that broke your heart. I am sorry that I have communicated that you and your families are less than me and mine. That guy came to speak at ND. The gay students were furious and tore up the signs and shouted a lot. I got suspicious when he said he admitted that he didn't like football but would rather go to the opera. Link to comment
GM_Tood Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 DOMA it just lost O Mr Roboto Link to comment
rawhide Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 That's horrible. "Curing" someone's sexual preference is an asinine concept. I like tall, leggy brunettes. You're going to put me in therapy and "cure" that attraction? Nope. I may be OK with blondes or redheads or someone who's short or whatever if the component pieces add up to an attractive package, but my preference is always going to be leggy brunettes. If you're attracted to guys, you're just attracted to guys. No getting around that. Uh knapplc, you never stated exactly which side of the plate you swing from possibly entered into the shed forums Link to comment
zoogs Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 But Knapp, more gay guys also increases the chances of me being hit on by a gay guy. It's a double edged sword. Pick your poison. Wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, that depends entirely on how fabulous you are I'd be a bit flattered though. Link to comment
krill Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Good news, but the trend of 5-4 decisions on major cases is destroying the credibility of the court. It gives the losing the side the impression that they are one justice croaking or retiring away from having it their way, and that one swing vote is holding immense power over a body that is supposedly impartial. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Sweet....have to mention fly over states when it's California that voted to ban it. Link to comment
carlfense Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Sweet....have to mention fly over states when it's California that voted to ban it. Because the flyover states have voted to allow it? Link to comment
Junior Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Sweet....have to mention fly over states when it's California that voted to ban it. And Nebraska didn't? Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Sweet....have to mention fly over states when it's California that voted to ban it. And Nebraska didn't? Where did I say they didn't? Link to comment
carlfense Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Where did I say they didn't? You didn't (and I didn't say that you did) . . . but you sounded confused as to why fly over states were mentioned. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Where did I say they didn't? You didn't (and I didn't say that you did) . . . but you sounded confused as to why fly over states were mentioned. I still am. the cartoon makes it sound like every place but fly over states are enlightened and some how more civilized as to the subject. Total BS. Sorry, I deal with people on the coasts all the time in my job and I constantly get a stuck up attitude from them about being from Nebraska. Link to comment
carlfense Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I still am. the cartoon makes it sound like every place but fly over states are enlightened and some how more civilized as to the subject. Total BS. 2 Link to comment
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