Reported Sexual Assault at Armstrong's House Under Investigation

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Look I am simply saying if the woman was False Accusing someone she needs to be Vilified, the players will now be the ones seen by anyone without a Husker Bias, as guilty.

As a Husker fan I would like t think that the players are innocent here, but Lack of evidence for a Legal Case and being Innocent are not one in the same!

Lack of evidence and falsely accusing are not one in the same either.

This ^^^ I work in the criminal justice system and I pray that this young woman seeks out the help she needs, you see too many times a woman who feels that she wasn't done justice turn to the wrong things to cope.

 

Unless nothing criminal happened and she tried to make it look like it did. How about those who may have been falsely accused and have had their futures put in peril? It can go both ways. I don't know who is right or wrong, but wish I knew more facts about what happened. Something should happen one way or the other IMO.

 

How though, exactly? There's not enough evidence to proceed with criminal charges, but that doesn't mean a crime never happened. This woman could very well not remember the incident and 100% believe she's a victim. If that's the case, she should not be vilified.

 

I think everyone here should just stop suggesting what should or shouldn't happen.

[I am I]

I truly wonder what happened then, Facts need to be released here because now the court of Public opinion is really going to look on this very negatively!

I'd really like to erase these 9 pages of conjecture, false speculation, nonexpert-expert opinion, infighting, judgement, and pure idiocy. But that won't happen either.

[Landlord]

This is none, absolutely none of any of our business.

 

 

 

The absolute right thing to happen is for nothing else to happen. Let this fade away and move on. You do not cater to the mob, you do not give a potential victim unwanted (mostly negative) attention, and you do not give a potential false accuser more publicity. What you definitely, absolutely, do not do, is assume that she was just making it all up (or assume that someone is guilty, either). You drop it, you let everyone forget about it quickly, and that's it.

[nemajordude]

This is none, absolutely none of any of our business.

 

 

This.

[Elf]

This is none, absolutely none of any of our business.

 

 

 

The absolute right thing to happen is for nothing else to happen. Let this fade away and move on. You do not cater to the mob, you do not give a potential victim unwanted (mostly negative) attention, and you do not give a potential false accuser more publicity. What you definitely, absolutely, do not do, is assume that she was just making it all up (or assume that someone is guilty, either). You drop it, you let everyone forget about it quickly, and that's it.

Except for that whole Title IX investigation that is still going on...

[Landlord]

Except for that whole Title IX investigation that is still going on...

 

 

 

Which will likely remain internal/private unless they decide to punish someone for something.

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Except for that whole Title IX investigation that is still going on...

 

 

 

Which will likely remain internal/private unless they decide to punish someone for something.

 

Even then, would they have an obligation to tell anyone?

 

Also, do we know for a fact there is a Title IX investigation ongoing, or is it an assumption that one is happening and still ongoing? Mainly out of curiosity as I know very little about Title IX except surface details of what it is.

[Elf]

 

 

Except for that whole Title IX investigation that is still going on...

 

 

 

Which will likely remain internal/private unless they decide to punish someone for something.

 

Even then, would they have an obligation to tell anyone?

 

Also, do we know for a fact there is a Title IX investigation ongoing, or is it an assumption that one is happening and still ongoing? Mainly out of curiosity as I know very little about Title IX except surface details of what it is.

 

AFAIK, a Title IX investigation is required in these situations.

 

I could be wrong on that, and if I am, surely it won't be long until I am corrected.

[Smac07]

Title IX has 60 days if I remember correctly.

 

As a male it sucks to see the double standard of She accuses rape and is automatically the Victim, and is automatically to be true because it is incredibly difficult to prove without evidence that can not be determined from a Rape Kit!

As a male with a proper upbringing it sucks even more to see sexual assault occurs at all.

As a law abiding citizen I am also sick and tired of seeing "public figures" being treated differently from the rest of us. No one is above the law yet sadly the system sure allows for it!

 

 

 

For those clowns shocked by my statement of making an example of her if she was falsifying the claim; you apparently feel people should be able to cause an incredible amount of damage to someone else by lying about it? Classy! This happens quite often so yes an example of someone lying about such a serious offense should be treated harshly to set a precedent that doing such a thing is not in your best interest.

 

Make no mistake if this is a case of rape then may the offender receive the justice they rightfully deserve.

 

My only point on this issue is this. That "Press Conference" was beyond pointless as it gave very little facts about anything, which creates more of a media storm of pure conjecture and this assumption of either guilt or innocence dependent upon, who you root for and what your personal bias may be. This type of irresponsible release of vagueness did nothing to clear anything and in no way will be forgotten. If you think it will just look at Shamus Winston or any other case that sticks with the Program and the persons involved.

 

Unless facts are revealed that unequivocally exonerate Westy and T.A. this will be something that will tarnish their reputation and character, it also makes me as a Nebraska Alum embarrassed by the fact that there may or may not be these types of people on the team that represents the University, and its alumni as well as fans!

[bisonwiches]

 

 

 

 

Look I am simply saying if the woman was False Accusing someone she needs to be Vilified, the players will now be the ones seen by anyone without a Husker Bias, as guilty.

As a Husker fan I would like t think that the players are innocent here, but Lack of evidence for a Legal Case and being Innocent are not one in the same!

Lack of evidence and falsely accusing are not one in the same either.

This ^^^ I work in the criminal justice system and I pray that this young woman seeks out the help she needs, you see too many times a woman who feels that she wasn't done justice turn to the wrong things to cope.

Unless nothing criminal happened and she tried to make it look like it did. How about those who may have been falsely accused and have had their futures put in peril? It can go both ways. I don't know who is right or wrong, but wish I knew more facts about what happened. Something should happen one way or the other IMO.

Just because the findings didn't show that a sexual assault happened doesn't mean the woman didn't feel victimized, or ashamed. I'm not saying that she was assaulted but say she consented to something that generally she wouldn't have, she may need to pursue some treatment. That's more what I was saying.

 

The woman can also be held to some extent if it were completely a false statement, like if nothing sexual happened between her and another party at all but she claimed assault. But from Tommy's statement previously we can make the assumption that there was relations of some sort so it's unlikely she be charged with filing a false police report. I do suppose the accused party could file harassment charges or sue, but since nothing is public that's unlikely and the harassment charges would be flimsy at best

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Title IX has 60 days if I remember correctly.

 

As a male it sucks to see the double standard of She accuses rape and is automatically the Victim, and is automatically to be true because it is incredibly difficult to prove without evidence that can not be determined from a Rape Kit!

As a male with a proper upbringing it sucks even more to see sexual assault occurs at all.

As a law abiding citizen I am also sick and tired of seeing "public figures" being treated differently from the rest of us. No one is above the law yet sadly the system sure allows for it!

 

 

 

For those clowns shocked by my statement of making an example of her if she was falsifying the claim; you apparently feel people should be able to cause an incredible amount of damage to someone else by lying about it? Classy! This happens quite often so yes an example of someone lying about such a serious offense should be treated harshly to set a precedent that doing such a thing is not in your best interest.

 

Make no mistake if this is a case of rape then may the offender receive the justice they rightfully deserve.

 

My only point on this issue is this. That "Press Conference" was beyond pointless as it gave very little facts about anything, which creates more of a media storm of pure conjecture and this assumption of either guilt or innocence dependent upon, who you root for and what your personal bias may be. This type of irresponsible release of vagueness did nothing to clear anything and in no way will be forgotten. If you think it will just look at Shamus Winston or any other case that sticks with the Program and the persons involved.

 

Unless facts are revealed that unequivocally exonerate Westy and T.A. this will be something that will tarnish their reputation and character, it also makes me as a Nebraska Alum embarrassed by the fact that there may or may not be these types of people on the team that represents the University, and its alumni as well as fans!

Just because you fail to see the point does not make it pointless.

 

Furthermore, you have unequivocally misunderstood what others are telling you. You're speculating, putting words in people's mouth and throwing garbage around wildly when you know absolutely nothing, and then demand to be told the "facts." Not very classy, either.

 

The "fact" is there is no criminal charge. The "fact" is most people will forget about this save a minority in the future. There were rape accusations from decades past that have all but been forgotten and this scenario will likely become one of those.

[Smac07]

 

Title IX has 60 days if I remember correctly.

 

As a male it sucks to see the double standard of She accuses rape and is automatically the Victim, and is automatically to be true because it is incredibly difficult to prove without evidence that can not be determined from a Rape Kit!

As a male with a proper upbringing it sucks even more to see sexual assault occurs at all.

As a law abiding citizen I am also sick and tired of seeing "public figures" being treated differently from the rest of us. No one is above the law yet sadly the system sure allows for it!

 

 

 

For those clowns shocked by my statement of making an example of her if she was falsifying the claim; you apparently feel people should be able to cause an incredible amount of damage to someone else by lying about it? Classy! This happens quite often so yes an example of someone lying about such a serious offense should be treated harshly to set a precedent that doing such a thing is not in your best interest.

 

Make no mistake if this is a case of rape then may the offender receive the justice they rightfully deserve.

 

My only point on this issue is this. That "Press Conference" was beyond pointless as it gave very little facts about anything, which creates more of a media storm of pure conjecture and this assumption of either guilt or innocence dependent upon, who you root for and what your personal bias may be. This type of irresponsible release of vagueness did nothing to clear anything and in no way will be forgotten. If you think it will just look at Shamus Winston or any other case that sticks with the Program and the persons involved.

 

Unless facts are revealed that unequivocally exonerate Westy and T.A. this will be something that will tarnish their reputation and character, it also makes me as a Nebraska Alum embarrassed by the fact that there may or may not be these types of people on the team that represents the University, and its alumni as well as fans!

Just because you fail to see the point does not make it pointless.

 

Furthermore, you have unequivocally misunderstood what others are telling you. You're speculating, putting words in people's mouth and throwing garbage around wildly when you know absolutely nothing, and then demand to be told the "facts." Not very classy, either.

 

The "fact" is there is no criminal charge. The "fact" is most people will forget about this save a minority in the future. There were rape accusations from decades past that have all but been forgotten and this scenario will likely become one of those.

 

Are you kidding? People haven't seemed to forget Christian Peters alleged issues, or Incogneto I guess you just forgot about that? Allegations for Sexual assault are serious and should be treated as such. You are living in a fantasy world if you think Alleged Sex Assault just is forgotten and with this handy dandy Inter-web it sure can follow you quite easily!

 

I Speculated on multiple views all which are viable and possible!

 

The Facts you point out are interesting and all, but the most important fact is that the lack of pressing charges is not due to anyone being found innocent or guilty of anything. If that doesn't cause any effect on you than I am a bit surprised.

[Smac07]

 

 

Except for that whole Title IX investigation that is still going on...

 

 

 

Which will likely remain internal/private unless they decide to punish someone for something.

 

Even then, would they have an obligation to tell anyone?

 

Also, do we know for a fact there is a Title IX investigation ongoing, or is it an assumption that one is happening and still ongoing? Mainly out of curiosity as I know very little about Title IX except surface details of what it is.

 

 

Yes Title IX investigation takes place for any Sexual assault allegation.

And I know for a fact that All UNL athletes have to go through a training discussing this information.

[Moiraine]

 

 

Title IX has 60 days if I remember correctly.

 

As a male it sucks to see the double standard of She accuses rape and is automatically the Victim, and is automatically to be true because it is incredibly difficult to prove without evidence that can not be determined from a Rape Kit!

As a male with a proper upbringing it sucks even more to see sexual assault occurs at all.

As a law abiding citizen I am also sick and tired of seeing "public figures" being treated differently from the rest of us. No one is above the law yet sadly the system sure allows for it!

 

 

 

For those clowns shocked by my statement of making an example of her if she was falsifying the claim; you apparently feel people should be able to cause an incredible amount of damage to someone else by lying about it? Classy! This happens quite often so yes an example of someone lying about such a serious offense should be treated harshly to set a precedent that doing such a thing is not in your best interest.

 

Make no mistake if this is a case of rape then may the offender receive the justice they rightfully deserve.

 

My only point on this issue is this. That "Press Conference" was beyond pointless as it gave very little facts about anything, which creates more of a media storm of pure conjecture and this assumption of either guilt or innocence dependent upon, who you root for and what your personal bias may be. This type of irresponsible release of vagueness did nothing to clear anything and in no way will be forgotten. If you think it will just look at Shamus Winston or any other case that sticks with the Program and the persons involved.

 

Unless facts are revealed that unequivocally exonerate Westy and T.A. this will be something that will tarnish their reputation and character, it also makes me as a Nebraska Alum embarrassed by the fact that there may or may not be these types of people on the team that represents the University, and its alumni as well as fans!

Just because you fail to see the point does not make it pointless.

 

Furthermore, you have unequivocally misunderstood what others are telling you. You're speculating, putting words in people's mouth and throwing garbage around wildly when you know absolutely nothing, and then demand to be told the "facts." Not very classy, either.

 

The "fact" is there is no criminal charge. The "fact" is most people will forget about this save a minority in the future. There were rape accusations from decades past that have all but been forgotten and this scenario will likely become one of those.

 

Are you kidding? People haven't seemed to forget Christian Peters alleged issues, or Incogneto I guess you just forgot about that? Allegations for Sexual assault are serious and should be treated as such. You are living in a fantasy world if you think Alleged Sex Assault just is forgotten and with this handy dandy Inter-web it sure can follow you quite easily!

 

I Speculated on multiple views all which are viable and possible!

 

The Facts you point out are interesting and all, but the most important fact is that the lack of pressing charges is not due to anyone being found innocent or guilty of anything. If that doesn't cause any effect on you than I am a bit surprised.

 

 

Christian Peter was convicted of sexual assault. Forgive me for not being sad that people remember he was accused of rape.

[Smac07]

So how did you feel about FSU with Winston?