GBRFAN Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Ron Brown was a great coach in many ways..... Not sure who we are thou cause i don't miss him - pretty excited about the staff that we have. He was awesome thou!!! Quote Link to comment
Kiyoat Husker Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Ron Brown was a great coach in many ways..... Not sure who we are thou cause i don't miss him - pretty excited about the staff that we have. He was awesome thou!!! Art thou snockered, mate? Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 It's hard to blame Riley and Co. for not running the ball more in 2015 if they thought T. Newby was our best option ( Although many fans have argued that he might not have been). You would have to think if they had a guy like Ameer/Rex/Roy they would have surely given them the ball more then they did our current stock of backs. I see why they did what they did. Give the ball to Newby/Cross, or one of the better WR groups in the conference? Wasn't newby's production ahead of where Ameer (and maybe Rex) were at similar points in their careers? Point being, if he'd been developed and utilized like those two were, maybe he would have been more productive this year. We miss Ron Brown. Burkhead looked ready to take over from Helu. Ameer looked ready to take over from Burkhead. I was never excited about seeing Newby get more carries, based on what he showed under both coaches. He may surprise us this season, or simply join dozens of previous Husker running backs who were merely competent. 1 Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Wasn't newby's production ahead of where Ameer (and maybe Rex) were at similar points in their careers? lol no. not even close. Quote Link to comment
Pedro Guerrero Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Run for 300 and 5.0 or higher ypc and pass for 200 more with a 55% completion rate and keep turnovers under 2 per game and takeaways around 3 per game. Keep penalties less than 6 per game for under 50 yards. How many teams in the history of college football have ever pulled all of these off during the same season? Baylor last year did them all but the takeaways and penalties. So I guess get Art Briles on the phone? Quote Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I'm not convinced the 223.1 figure for Nebraska is accurate, and Georgia Tech's 235 average seems pretty modest for a rushing leader. 1996 - 291.9 1997 - 392.6 1998 - 253.8 1999 - 265.9 2000 - 349.3 2001 - 314.7 2002 - 268.7 2003 - 235.6 2004 - 176.3 2005 - 96.0 2006 - 170.5 2007 - 144.4 2008 - 169.8 2009 - 147.1 2010 - 247.6 2011 - 217.2 2012 - 253.4 2013 - 215.7 2014 - 240.2 2015 - 180.0 AVG - 231.5 I took my stats off Huskers.com which includes bowl games. Perhaps their numbers didn't include them. Kind of went in streaks. 1996-2003 averaged 296.6. 2004-2009 averaged 150.7. 2010-2014 averaged 234.8. I'm thinking last year's 180 will be pretty common going forward - maybe the high point. Johnson has only been coaching at Georgia Tech since 2008. Before that they weren't that much of a rushing team - or particularly good for that matter. According to https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/rushing-yards-per-game?date=2004-01-05 (Only shows 2002 to 2015) (HUSKERS.com in Parenthesis) 2002 - 229.3 (268.7) 2003 - 235.6 (235.6) 2004 - 157.6 (176.3) 2005 - 93.7 (96.0) 2006 - 163.5 (170.5) 2007 - 144.4 (144.4) 2008 - 170.0 (169.8) 2009 - 147.1 (147.1) 2010 - 253.0 (247.6) 2011 - 216.2 (217.2) 2012 - 243.2 (253.4) 2013 - 205.8 (215.7) 2014 - 244.0 (240.2) 2015 - 180.0 (180.0) Pretty big difference in a couple of them. One would have to go back and find game by game stats to find the most reliable stats. Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 It's hard to blame Riley and Co. for not running the ball more in 2015 if they thought T. Newby was our best option ( Although many fans have argued that he might not have been). You would have to think if they had a guy like Ameer/Rex/Roy they would have surely given them the ball more then they did our current stock of backs. I see why they did what they did. Give the ball to Newby/Cross, or one of the better WR groups in the conference? Wasn't newby's production ahead of where Ameer (and maybe Rex) were at similar points in their careers? Point being, if he'd been developed and utilized like those two were, maybe he would have been more productive this year. We miss Ron Brown. Burkhead looked ready to take over from Helu. Ameer looked ready to take over from Burkhead. I was never excited about seeing Newby get more carries, based on what he showed under both coaches. He may surprise us this season, or simply join dozens of previous Husker running backs who were merely competent. Ziggy is going to be the one taking that torch. Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 392 rushing YPG is an INSANE stat. Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Just because I'm still baffled how cm could ask such an obviously answerable question... Through Sophomore Year Stats: Rex Burkhead - 253 attempts for 1297 yards - 5.1ypc - 10 TDs | 27 receptions for 238 yards - 1 TD Ameer Abdullah - 268 attempts for 1287 yards - 4.8ypc - 11 TDs | 25 receptions for 189 yards - 2 TD Terrell Newby - 121 attempts for 595 yards - 4.9ypc - 7 TDs | 11 receptions for 46 yards - 0 TD Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Thanks for numbers; I was going off memory of a stat someone threw out there. Maybe their point was that his yards per carry stats were in line with the other guys at similar points. Obviously he didn't have to shoulder as many carries his sophomore year because AA was a senior. Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Thanks for numbers; I was going off memory of a stat someone threw out there. Maybe their point was that his yards per carry stats were in line with the other guys at similar points. Obviously he didn't have to shoulder as many carries his sophomore year because AA was a senior. For someone who spends so much time talking about 'paper tigers' and how stats don't tell the actual story, your deferment to numbers for Newby is strange, since it seems to be a pretty prevailing opinion that he hadn't shown much of anything in his first two years here, with his biggest endorsement coming from Ameer saying, "Oh just trust me he's even better than I am you just haven't seen it yet." Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 You're reading waaaaaaaay too much into what I said about Newby. Where have i ever used the term "paper tiger" about a husker player or recruit? Are you confusing me with someone you're arguing with in the tanner Lee discussion? All I'm saying is that Newby was hurt by the change in system and change in position coach. I couldn't care less what the prevailing opinion among fans is about him. 1 Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Where have i ever used the term "paper tiger" about a husker player or recruit? a player or recruit probably/possibly never, but you referred to our 2006 team as a paper tiger at least like 17 times in one thread Quote Link to comment
admo Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 They can do better than 180 a game this year. All backs should be better. And even though there's some young newcomers on the line, it doesn't mean they should automatically be worse in run blocking. I just hope these backs, Oz, Newby, Wilbon, get opportunities to run outside more often. Seemed like last season most running plays were straight up the middle for 2, 3. 4 yards and a cloud of dust. While they used the jet sweep and halfback passes for stretching the field. I got tired of that by mid season. Especially considering that a majority of big runs throughout the nation (and Husker history) occur when backs go outside and have the ability to hit the edge or cut back, use burst and speed in open space. Really, really hope this gets seriously considered by HCMR and OCDL. It just has to be done. 1 Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Where have i ever used the term "paper tiger" about a husker player or recruit? a player or recruit probably/possibly never, but you referred to our 2006 team as a paper tiger at least like 17 times in one thread We had great players on that '06 team. They were squandered by the paper tiger that was Callahan and his garbage offense. Doesn't have anything to do with your claims that Newby hasn't shown anything his first two years and is nothing special. 2 Quote Link to comment
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