BigRedBuster Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 The only thing I can call this is "odd." Why in the world would Vladimir Putin say this? If he is trying to wheedle his way into the White House, this is overplaying his hand. Because he is masterfully manipulating the next President. If he acts like he totally agrees with Trump and supports him in his trashing of the media and others who criticize him, he will have Trump begging for the chance to lick his shoes. Link to comment
Fru Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 The only thing I can call this is "odd." Why in the world would Vladimir Putin say this? If he is trying to wheedle his way into the White House, this is overplaying his hand. Because he is masterfully manipulating the next President. If he acts like he totally agrees with Trump and supports him in his trashing of the media and others who criticize him, he will have Trump begging for the chance to lick his shoes. Bingo. It's amazing to see people being played like fiddles. Link to comment
ZRod Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I will share something useful I've come across with all of you that helps shed some light on Putin's overall strategy with all of this. A book called Foundations of Geopolitics was a book published by fascist Alexander Dugin in 1997 that became fundamental in shaping the minds of Russian police, military, and foreign policy circles. It's allegedly used in their military academy as a textbook. This is central to their foreign policy views. Given that Putin came up in the KGB during that time period, it probably largely shaped the way he views the world, and his strategy for furthering Russian interests. An excerpt of the book's tenets from Wikipedia: The book declares that "the battle for the world rule of [ethnic] Russians" has not ended and Russia remains "the staging area of a new anti-bourgeois, anti-American revolution." The Eurasian Empire will be constructed "on the fundamental principle of the common enemy: the rejection of Atlanticism, strategic control of the USA, and the refusal to allow liberal values to dominate us."[1] Military operations play relatively little role. The textbook believes in a sophisticated program of subversion, destabilization, and disinformation spearheaded by the Russian special services. The operations should be assisted by a tough, hard-headed utilization of Russia's gas, oil, and natural resources to bully and pressure other countries.[1] The book states that "the maximum task [of the future] is the 'Finlandization' of all of Europe".[1] In Europe: Germany should be offered the de facto political dominance over most Protestant and Catholic states located within Central and Eastern Europe. Kaliningrad oblast could be given back to Germany. The book uses the term "Moscow-Berlin axis".[1] France should be encouraged to form a "Franco-German bloc" with Germany. Both countries have a "firm anti-Atlanticist tradition".[1] The United Kingdom should be cut off from Europe.[1] Finland should be absorbed into Russia. Southern Finland will be combined with the Republic of Karelia and northern Finland will be "donated to Murmansk Oblast".[1] Estonia should be given to Germany's sphere of influence.[1] Latvia and Lithuania should be given a "special status" in the Eurasian-Russian sphere.[1] Poland should be granted a "special status" in the Eurasian sphere.[1] Romania, Macedonia, "Serbian Bosnia" and Greece "orthodox collectivist East" will unite with "Moscow the Third Rome" and reject the "rational-individualistic West".[1] Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because "Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible.[1] In the Middle East and Central Asia: The book stresses the "continental Russian-Islamic alliance" which lies "at the foundation of anti-Atlanticist strategy". The alliance is based on the "traditional character of Russian and Islamic civilization". Iran is a key ally. The book uses the term "Moscow-Tehran axis".[1] Armenia has a special role: It will serve as a "strategic base," and it is necessary to create "the [subsidiary] axis Moscow-Erevan-Teheran". Armenians "are an Aryan people [like] the Iranians and the Kurds".[1] Azerbaijan could be "split up" or given to Iran.[1] Georgia should be dismembered. Abkhazia and "United Ossetia" (which includes Georgia's South Ossetia) will be incorporated into Russia. Georgia's independent policies are unacceptable.[1] Russia needs to create "geopolitical shocks" within Turkey. These can be achieved by employing Kurds, Armenians and other minorities.[1] The book regards the Caucasus as a Russian territory, including "the eastern and northern shores of the Caspian (the territories of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan)" and Central Asia (mentioning Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kirghistan and Tajikistan).[1] In Asia: China, which represents a danger to Russia, "must, to the maximum degree possible, be dismantled". Dugin suggests that Russia start by taking Tibet-Xinjiang-Mongolia-Manchuria as a security belt.[2] Russia should offer China help "in a southern direction Indochina (except Vietnam), the Philippines, Indonesia, Australia" as geopolitical compensation.[1] Russia should manipulate Japanese politics by offering the Kuril Islands to Japan and provoking anti-Americanism.[1] Mongolia should be absorbed into Eurasia-Russia.[1] The book emphasizes that Russia must spread Anti-Americanism everywhere: "the main 'scapegoat' will be precisely the U.S." In the United States: Russia should use its special forces within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics."[1]The Eurasian Project could be expanded to South and Central America.[1] I've bolded the things we have already seen happen. This is clearly the playbook that Russia is operating from. Finlandization in this context refers to allowing a smaller, less powerful country to keep its independence and its own political system in exchange for a strong amount of influence over their policies. Thus, Russia's end goal is to largely control how Europe operates even if it provides them the illusion of independence. Seeing the overall gameplan is useful to providing context to Russia's geopolitics and how they may be using Trump to accomplish those ends. Good stuff. I've seen this book referenced before, and it's crazy to see it start playing out. It makes me wonder if the book is the real deal or not. If it is, the game plan is pretty clear, and it's too bad we have a doofus in office who won't stand against it. Link to comment
AR Husker Fan Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Russians Mint ‘In Trump We Trust’ Coin Ahead Of U.S. Inauguration The limited-edition coins ― only 45 have been made ― feature a cherubic mug of the incoming president as well as the Statue of Liberty and the inscription: “In Trump We Trust.” Link to comment
TAKODA Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Upon further reflection, maybe GOP stands for "Goverment Of Putin" ? Nah! I jest! 1 Link to comment
ZRod Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Upon further reflection, maybe GOP stands for "Goverment Of Putin" ? Nah! I jest! But seriously though... 1 Link to comment
BIGREDIOWAN Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Who else has been preparing for the movie Red Dawn to really happen?! I can't wait to be proven right..............I'm not crazy for stockpiling all of that food and ammo! Link to comment
Red Five Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 God damn did Comey screw up the election with his 11th hour Hillary email letter, while never disclosing the months long investigation into Trump/Russia. 6 Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 Who else has been preparing for the movie Red Dawn to really happen?! I can't wait to be proven right..............I'm not crazy for stockpiling all of that food and ammo! I'm sure as hell not yelling 'Wolverines' (unless the actual animal is in the proximity.) They should have gotten a better mascot for their uprising. Just sayin'. #MakeRedDawnGreatAgain 1 Link to comment
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