ZRod Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I'm not sure much about this IS gray. One's genitals and DNA paint a pretty clear picture of one's gender. Except when they don't... Link to comment
NM11046 Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I'm not sure much about this IS gray. One's genitals and DNA paint a pretty clear picture of one's gender. Nope. Or maybe yes, DNA is a factor, but not like you assume Ric. https://www.biospace.com/article/new-study-indicates-dna-plays-role-in-gender-identity/ https://blogs.plos.org/dnascience/2018/03/22/20-gene-variants-and-transgender-identity-what-does-it-mean/ https://www.smh.com.au/national/scientists-find-dna-clues-to-gender-identity-in-transwoman-database-20181002-p507cj.html http://www.newnownext.com/dna-study-gender-identity-transgender/03/2018/ https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/science-pinpoints-dna-behind-gender-identity-3vmrgrdnv 1 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 5:35 PM, Making Chimichangas said: So... Expanding Legalized Discrimination I have been talking for some time about what the end game here is for Republicans concerning LBGTQIA people. Do any of you really even care? So tired of this sh**. Yes - I'd argue most of us that come to this thread care very, very much. This $hit is happening and is driven by the GOP, but on the positive side you have states like MA that are getting ahead of things by creating or upholding laws to protect transgendered people and their rights. Elections for city and state government mean a lot - we focus so much on the big picture (POTUS, senate, congress) but local governments can impact change when crap is so f*cked up up top. Stay strong chimi. Lots of people are in your corner, don't let the vocal minority here get you down, and know that many of us are fighting for you. I've been MIA from HB for the last month or two as I'm using my time to volunteer on campaigns that are in swing areas - I needed to be doing something besides venting. 1 1 Link to comment
Ric Flair Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Chromosomes line up as either XX or XY. It's science. Link to comment
NM11046 Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Chromosomes line up as either XX or XY. It's science. https://www.biospace.com/article/new-study-indicates-dna-plays-role-in-gender-identity/ https://blogs.plos.org/dnascience/2018/03/22/20-gene-variants-and-transgender-identity-what-does-it-mean/ https://www.smh.com.au/national/scientists-find-dna-clues-to-gender-identity-in-transwoman-database-20181002-p507cj.html http://www.newnownext.com/dna-study-gender-identity-transgender/03/2018/ https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/science-pinpoints-dna-behind-gender-identity-3vmrgrdnv Science. 1 Link to comment
Ric Flair Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I think someone needs to explain to this person what "science" is. If it's mere opinion, then why do we need scientists? "It is counter to medical science to use chromosomes, hormones, internal reproductive organs, external genitalia, or secondary sex characteristics to override gender identity for purposes of classifying someone as male or female.” https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/transgender-ideology-riddled-contradictions-here-are-the-big-ones Link to comment
ZRod Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 36 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Chromosomes line up as either XX or XY. It's science. And you're wrong again. They can be X alone. Or XXY, or XYY, etc. 2 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: I think someone needs to explain to this person what "science" is. If it's mere opinion, then why do we need scientists? "It is counter to medical science to use chromosomes, hormones, internal reproductive organs, external genitalia, or secondary sex characteristics to override gender identity for purposes of classifying someone as male or female.” https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/transgender-ideology-riddled-contradictions-here-are-the-big-ones Dude. You're seriously using The Heritage Foundation as a source? For scientific data? Try again. This is laughable. 1 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 This is a great article from National Geographic that talks about how simply biology teaching in grade school and high school teaches the elementary xx/xy stuff but that that is not complete or true entirely. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/01/how-science-helps-us-understand-gender-identity/ Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 If we can pick our gender, which I am totally fine with...why can't we pick our age? 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 42 minutes ago, teachercd said: If we can pick our gender, which I am totally fine with...why can't we pick our age? Most transgender people don't use their gender to get an unfair advantage, so I assume you are not talking about a 15 year old picking 21 so they can buy alcohol. So now that's out of the way, people pick their age all the time. Hair coloring, plastic surgery, wearing make up when you're too young, buying a fancy car at age 45 when you're balding and thinking it makes you younger, etc. 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Moiraine said: Most transgender people don't use their gender to get an unfair advantage, so I assume you are not talking about a 15 year old picking 21 so they can buy alcohol. So now that's out of the way, people pick their age all the time. Hair coloring, plastic surgery, wearing make up when you're too young, buying a fancy car at age 45 when you're balding and thinking it makes you younger, etc. Interesting points. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 In case you're wondering why this is happening now... This article from January predicted it since the Pence evangelical wing has taken over the Department of Health & Human Services. Look for my conservative Christian priorities to be pushed. Separation of church & state my rump. 1 Link to comment
Ric Flair Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 4 hours ago, ZRod said: And you're wrong again. They can be X alone. Or XXY, or XYY, etc. And how often does that occur? Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: And how often does that occur? At a rate greater than 0.000000000000% 1 Link to comment
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